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Old 14th March 2019, 11:08 AM   #2401
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A Chinese official accused “anti-China forces” in the West of using Christianity to subvert the country’s political power and said worshippers must follow a Chinese form of religion.

China’s officially atheist government, which oversees religious groups through state-sponsored institutions, has tightened its grip on all faiths in recent years.
Avid readers of this thread know that the atheist leadership is “at war with faith”, persecuting Muslim Uighurs, Tibetan Buddhists, Christians and Falungong practitioners.

This is not receding but expanding since this important thread was started.

We should all be alarmed.
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Old 14th March 2019, 11:15 AM   #2402
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Avid readers of this thread know that the atheist leadership
Oxymoron.

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We should all be alarmed.
Alarmist.
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Old 14th March 2019, 12:13 PM   #2403
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
The US Fires back at the Unyielding Marxist Atheists' egregious human rights abuses in China:
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Adrian Zenz, an independent researcher who focuses on China’s ethnic policy, says China is interning ethnic minorities, separating families and sending children to state-run orphanages to maintain ideological control over them.

“All-in-all the Chinese State’s present attempt to eradicate independent and free expressions of distinct ethnic and religious identities in Xinjiang is nothing less than a systematic campaign of cultural genocide and should be treated as such,” said Zenz.
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Ah, lucky that the current US administration was forced to back down from separating families, and that the president's suggestion to forbid muslims to enter the country was stopped by courts. Otherwise we would be having a bad case of whataboutism.

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Old 14th March 2019, 12:18 PM   #2404
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Originally Posted by 8enotto View Post
Oh no! What is The Big Dog foundation for human rights in China going to DO to end this?

Besides post crap here?
Well, if I should suggest something: Since they can do absolutely nothing to influence China, they might try to put some pressure on their own government to do something. The US government just might be able to apply some pressure on China.

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Old 14th March 2019, 12:20 PM   #2405
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Really important piece about how the firm and unyielding Marxist atheists are using their clout to silence critics



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/w...g-muslims.html

Everyone, especially atheists should be alarmed at what China is doing.
Uhm, I think we are all alarmed at human rights abuses, but why exactly should atheists be particularly alarmed? ... Because we are true humanists and not hypocrites perhaps?

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Old 14th March 2019, 12:22 PM   #2406
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
China’s Muslims Brace for Attacks

First, it was the Uighurs. Now, other Muslim minorities are being threatened—and the worst may be yet to come.




Sounds like the Atheists in China are gearing up for their own Night of the Broken Glass.

We should all be alarmed
I'm so touched by your concern for Muslim minorities. Perhaps you could influence your president to offer them a refuge in the US?

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Old 14th March 2019, 12:27 PM   #2407
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Excuse me but Stalin, Mao and Xi DID commit atrocities in the name of atheism. I have expertly covered this in this thread.

UNYIELDING.
MARXIST.
ATHEISTS.

deal with it
Ah, yes. I suppose, having studied China and having visited the country many times during more than ten years, I'll have to yield to your "expertise of endless repetition".


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Old 14th March 2019, 03:58 PM   #2408
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
And why you're reading, folks, realise that this is exactly what TBD wants: poke and twist the discussion long enough that people will give up or attack him, and then claim victory to an imaginary audience.

Get help.
Yes, that's the overt, immediate goal but the ultimate goal is to do his best to continue to hype up fear of some generally oppressed group in order to justify further violence and terror against them.




Originally Posted by MRC_Hans View Post
Uhm, I think we are all alarmed at human rights abuses, but why exactly should atheists be particularly alarmed? ... Because we are true humanists and not hypocrites perhaps?

Hans
As I've pointed out above, this is why atheists should be particularly alarmed. Not because of what the Chinese government is doing or not doing, but simply trying to use whatever lever he thinks is available in order to smear his true targets: atheists and other minorities in the United States, just as has been done by his kind for the past sixty or more years.
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Old 14th March 2019, 11:52 PM   #2409
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Originally Posted by 8enotto View Post
Oh no! What is The Big Dog foundation for human rights in China going to DO to end this?

Besides post crap here?
This is what Big Dog's monstruous boss do:

2 NOVEMBER 2018, THE TABLET
Chinese Catholics ‘hopeful’ following Vatican deal with Beijing

This is the monstruous accord that the monstruous Catholic Church signed with monstruous Chinese atheist government. What a monstruous hoppes, Mr Big Dog!
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Old 15th March 2019, 08:32 AM   #2410
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Avid readers of this thread know that the atheist leadership is “at war with faith”, persecuting Muslim Uighurs, Tibetan Buddhists, Christians and Falungong practitioners.

This is not receding but expanding since this important thread was started.

We should all be alarmed.
The treatment of Tibet is awful, long term extinguishing of Tibetan culture and overwhelming the population with Han Chinese. This has been the precedent for the other areas with 'non-Chinese' cultures and peoples.
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Old 19th March 2019, 12:35 AM   #2411
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Avid readers of this thread know that the atheist leadership is “at war with faith”, persecuting Muslim Uighurs, Tibetan Buddhists, Christians and Falungong practitioners.

This is not receding but expanding since this important thread was started.

We should all be alarmed.
Nonsense.

Humanity has a long history of the dominant culture destroying the less powerful ones. E.g. the (Christian) colonial powers, irreversibly destroyed the Native American culture and that of the Australian Aborigine, and the Aztecs and Incas of Latin America and so many more. It’s not about atheism vs religion but about greed and domination.
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Old 19th March 2019, 01:57 AM   #2412
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Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
Nonsense.

That's really the only word you need in a reply to pretty much anything TBD says. You're wasting your breath with the rest.

Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
Humanity has a long history of the dominant culture destroying the less powerful ones. E.g. the (Christian) colonial powers, irreversibly destroyed the Native American culture and that of the Australian Aborigine, and the Aztecs and Incas of Latin America and so many more. It’s not about atheism vs religion but about greed and domination.
TBD will inevitably write "whataboutism", and then go back to his real purpose for starting this thread, which has nothing to do with helping oppressed minorities: it is actually about him winning a victory over atheists.
He basically admitted as much in his last post, which was yellow-carded and sent to AAH.
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Old 20th March 2019, 10:33 AM   #2413
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
That's really the only word you need in a reply to pretty much anything TBD says. You're wasting your breath with the rest.



TBD will inevitably write "whataboutism", and then go back to his real purpose for starting this thread, which has nothing to do with helping oppressed minorities: it is actually about him winning a victory over atheists.
He basically admitted as much in his last post, which was yellow-carded and sent to AAH.
Yeah, apparently atheophobia is a real thing and is being expressed in nearly every post by the OP. It became apparent to me back in the day when TBD constantly conflated "anti-theist" with "a-theist" even after the conflation had been pointed out.

With this thread, he gets to point to a happenstance that the Chinese government is atheist only in order to demonize atheists everywhere such as in the United States where they, as a group, are a minority with no real power or influence in society. This is done only in order to suppress atheists and people who support secular and humanist values in the US and to justify potential use of force against those people.

Heck, force has been used against atheists in the US for decades already and only relatively recently have they been making any headway in social influence, hence the "need" for this thread.
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