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Good. Then I don't have to show how I derived my numbers (I assumed a 5% to 10% vig on all bets made).
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Right, and don't forget that most of us aren't going to be voting for Shorten. We're going to be voting for whoever is standing in our electorates. If enough of us vote for a Labor candidate, then Shorten will be PM. And that's going to happen.
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...our governments are just trying to protect us from terror. In the same way that someone banging a hornets’ nest with a stick is trying to protect us from hornets. Frankie Boyle, Guardian, July 2015 |
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Be interesting to see how the "shoot em up party" does in the NSW polls in the wake of the Christchurch massacre.
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The Liberals are in serious trouble with their Facebook supporters. Read the comments of this post. Some are upset they will be giving their preferences to the Greens and Labor ahead of One Nation.
https://www.facebook.com/scottmorris...BzWQ&__tn__=-R Looks like One Nation will be getting many votes from ex Liberals. |
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That's worrying.
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You know, if the Nationals wake up one morning, and actually check their policies and Labor's policies, and form a Coalition with Labor...
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Oooh, this is interesting - several journalists claim Morrison made highly questionable remarks about muslims a few years back; Scotty says it's a disgusting lie.
But he's not going to sue... https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...20-p515p7.html |
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I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if he did.
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Scotty says what he is told to say. Rupert has him on speed-dial.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-...im-row/1947034
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So shed crocodile tears until the next issue arises about immigration. We are going to reduce it by 30,000 a year. https://www.pmc.gov.au/sites/default...aI0b-qrd8aIj9U
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Looks like the "disgusting lie" contains at the very least a solid element of truth in it, according to Morrison's new story.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/chr...sion-interview Yep. |
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An interesting article by James Boyce. Scomo's religion should be of concern to us and his apparent insincerity. Personally it concerns me deeply that our PM might think we are in end times. What sort of planning for the future might be appropriate given this?
https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/...scott-morrison
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There seems to be a propensity for Scomo and his fellow travellers to revile people of other faiths due to their professed beliefs. Maybe about time for the shoe to be on the other foot. The religious and other beliefs of our "fine upstanding" citizens that are our current right-wing (Hanson, Palmer and Anning, I'm looking at you) should be examined publicly and commented on just as much.
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Which if you think about it isn't particularly surprising. If someone has a belief system that they turn to about questions about morality, of course that's going to influence their policy decisions. Someone who believes that homosexuality is bad isn't going to support policies that promote diversity and inclusion, unless they can put their personal views aside in favour of a majority. But really, is a politician really going to support something that they strongly believe is immoral?
Hey, remember Ruddock's religious freedom review? Whatever happened to that? Did that just get quietly buried? |
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Turns out it kind of was, but the details were leaked and the 20 recommendations were published in the SMH.
Recommendation 17 is interesting in the current state of affairs. |
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I was thinking more about the fact that most of the religious organisations that our leading politicians adhere to operate more like multinational businesses than as religions. And that some multinationals require and receive "religious" followers. Take Fox Media for example.
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I said that I would pass on "reading all three articles in full". I still haven't. A quick glance at the article shows that it was a pure opinion piece.
The notion that politicians shouldn't be trusted because we don't know what they truly believe is trivially true. Religious views are just a small subset of what a politician believes in and most are ready, willing and able to abandon their beliefs in the pursuit of votes. |
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Well, yes. What gave you the impression that it wasn't? In what way would this subject be appropriate for a pure facts-based news report? News organisations have published opinion pieces since forever. Also, you should still read all three articles in full.
I don't think that's true at all. Otherwise they would have all supported marriage equality. |
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