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Old 13th February 2019, 02:19 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
When it comes to members of an administration or campaign pleading guilty to crimes, is the current count above average for the first two years?
For democrats sure, I am not so sure about republicans. Remember it is Nixon, then Reagan then Bush who lead the pack in modern indictments and convictions. So at least corruption will not likely tarnish the Trump legacy as it didn't hurt W or Reagan.
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:19 PM   #242
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
When it comes to members of an administration or campaign pleading guilty to crimes, is the current count above average for the first two years?
The charts here are from September but he's already passed Reagan's total time in office and heading toward Nixon and that was almost six months ago.
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:24 PM   #243
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
That's better than the charts from 538.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-growing-fast/

What I'd like, but haven't been able to get at the raw numbers to do it myself is to have a timeline chart with so you can see how the cumulative indictments climb as the investigation continues, and how they compare to other investigations.
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:27 PM   #244
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Originally Posted by Doubt View Post
Present a better reason. Otherwise stop pretending you have a point.
You are committing the argument from ignorance fallacy.
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:27 PM   #245
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Originally Posted by Tero View Post
Mexican President Nieto said he condemns Trump's plan to begin construction of a wall.
"This is very, very upsetting to the Mexican people.But we'll get over it"
Peña Nieto is a corrupt scoundrel, but damn that is funny.


Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
They can't just get him a Wii?
Your wii golf avatar is complete and ready to download, Mr. President.


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Old 13th February 2019, 02:34 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
They can't just get him a Wii?
Hell, why he can't just run "Links" Or "tiger Woods Golf" on his computer.
I admit, I am a huge fan of "Links".
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:50 PM   #247
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Can't he just do some work?
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:52 PM   #248
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Can't he just do some work?
Jesus Christ God no. That's the last thing any of us want.

Can you imagine the damage a motivated and active Trump would do?

Until we can deal with him anything that keeps him from getting bored is worth whatever he's asking.
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:54 PM   #249
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Re: Lies and cover-ups, and how it supports the claim Trump conspired with Russia...
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Present a better reason. Otherwise stop pretending you have a point.
You are committing the argument from ignorance fallacy.
No, from the looks of it, they are invoking Occam's razor.

The idea of Occam's razor is (to parahprase) the simplest solution is usually the correct one.

So, what's simpler:
- That there was collusion (based on things like Emails/texts, on the analysis by intelligence agencies, the timing of information releases) and that the lies about various meetings were just a way to cover up the collusion

- That, despite Trump Jr. claiming he "loved" the idea of doing illegal stuff, despite the fact that the intelligence agencies tracked the hacking back to Russia and the timing of data releases was beneficial to the Trump campaign, that somehow the lies and cover ups were to hide something else (which of course nobody in the Trump administration has yet admitted to.)
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:59 PM   #250
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Just in case anyone here thinks that Republican senators are starting to break with Trump....

From: https://www.vox.com/2019/2/13/182205...trump-nominees
Senate Republicans want to change the rules so they can push through more of Trump’s judicial and administrative nominees...

The rule changes involve reducing the time that a particular nominee can be discussed.

So for all the claims that "The shutdown vote shows Republicans are breaking with Trump"... no, they aren't. In fact they are trying to enable him to do more damage. Much, much more damage.
Top GOP goal from the start: finish stacking the courts, something they started back in the Karl Rove days..
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Old 13th February 2019, 03:36 PM   #251
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Looks as if Donnie is going to sign the budget...at least at this minute. He has gotten sort of an OK from President Limbaugh, but President Coulter is yet to be heard from.
I expect him not to sign, at the last minute. The rush from being in control, and keeping everyone in suspense, with the ironic twist, is going to overpower any fleeting thought he might have of what the negative repercussions might be.
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Old 13th February 2019, 03:43 PM   #252
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
I expect him not to sign, at the last minute. The rush from being in control, and keeping everyone in suspense, with the ironic twist, is going to overpower any fleeting thought he might have of what the negative repercussions might be.
He just can't help himself, he's got to stare at the eclipse because everyone told him not to.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
trump Tweets

The Gallup Poll just announced that 69% of our great citizens expect their finances to improve next year, a 16 year high. Nice!

Today, it was my great honor to address the @MjrCitiesChiefs Association and @MCSheriffs Conference in Washington, D.C. We will never forget your service, and we will never, ever let you down! We love you, and we thank God for you each and every day.
"We love you, and we thank God for you each and every day."

And they accuse the left of virtue signalling.
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Old 13th February 2019, 04:37 PM   #254
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The big lies, the small lies. Lies of all kinds. Lies 'r Us!
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Trump’s driving license, issued in May 2012, stated his height as 6ft 2in. Yet according to the report issued by the White House physician [in 2018], Trump is 6ft 3in. Guardian news article
Barack Obama is listed at 6'1".
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Old 13th February 2019, 05:01 PM   #255
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
For democrats sure, I am not so sure about republicans. Remember it is Nixon, then Reagan then Bush who lead the pack in modern indictments and convictions. So at least corruption will not likely tarnish the Trump legacy as it didn't hurt W or Reagan.
The peculiar thing about Trump is that only he could be bribed and lose money on the deal. That's how crap a businessman he is.
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Old 13th February 2019, 05:16 PM   #256
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So? Are you unfamiliar with how plea bargains work?
So you've alleged a crime which isn't a crime.
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Old 13th February 2019, 05:18 PM   #257
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
You are committing the argument from ignorance fallacy.


I'm pretty sure the argument from ignorance is not: you failed to understand my argument.
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Old 13th February 2019, 05:47 PM   #258
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Indeed - one of the ways that the US government pays more for drugs than it should is because it is prevented by law from negotiating bulk discounts.

True, but even if they did it would only be of benefit to those who get their drugs via the government. Vets and Medicare/Medicaid, the military, and, possibly, whoever insures other government employees.

Without a single-payer health program everyone else would still be out in the cold as far as bulk pricing for the government is concerned.
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Old 13th February 2019, 05:49 PM   #259
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
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Your wii golf avatar is complete and ready to download, Mr. President.


http://www.internationalskeptics.com...48bf82a4a4.png

Needs more orange.

And the hair looks way too much like a decent wig.
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trump Tweets

The Gallup Poll just announced that 69% of our great citizens expect their finances to improve next year, a 16 year high. Nice!

Today, it was my great honor to address the @MjrCitiesChiefs Association and @MCSheriffs Conference in Washington, D.C. We will never forget your service, and we will never, ever let you down! We love you, and we thank God for you each and every day.
Trump Or Not: 14% chance this was written by Donny.
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Old 13th February 2019, 05:53 PM   #261
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The big lies, the small lies. Lies of all kinds. Lies 'r Us!

Barack Obama is listed at 6'1".
Donny his his locks coiffed with industrial strength hairspray to stand up another couple of inches.
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Old 13th February 2019, 06:12 PM   #262
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Word is he's into that...
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Donny his his locks coiffed with industrial strength hairspray to stand up another couple of inches.
The tallest president ever!!
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The tallest president ever!!
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OK, so Obama was taller
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You are committing the argument from ignorance fallacy.
Challenging you to put out an alternative hypothesis is not a fallacy at all. And by calling it a fallacy you reveal that you don't have one and are wasting everyone else's time again as usual.
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OK, so Obama was taller
Pelosi has them both beaten!




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California has been forced to cancel the massive bullet train project after having spent and wasted many billions of dollars. They owe the Federal Government three and a half billion dollars. We want that money back now. Whole project is a “green” disaster!
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California has been forced to cancel the massive bullet train project after having spent and wasted many billions of dollars. They owe the Federal Government three and a half billion dollars. We want that money back now. Whole project is a “green” disaster!
He thinks it was a loan?
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@dbongino - I don’t feel an ounce of empathy for all of the imbeciles who bought into the Russian collusion hoax now that it’s been entirely debunked. You were warned for over a year about this scam & you fell for it anyway. You did this to yourself.
Here's my point: Note the above, it's bad enough, but the president -- the president of the United States! -- retweeted it. Are you kidding me? Retweeted that anyone who believed there might be Trump/Russian collusion -- a suspicion fueled by events -- is an imbecile. Anyone. That the collusion investigation is based on a hoax. It's a scam. This is tens of millions of American people they're talking about. The level of disrespect from a president towards his own fellow citizens is unprecedented. Like a lot of loyal Americans who happen to be a registered Democrat, I've had to listen to the president repeatedly slam us. The other day the American president called people who question the wisdom of building the 2,000 mile border wall "radical leftists." He says over and over that the Democratic Party is in favor of an open border, allowing easy transit for illicit drugs, that Democrat's are in favor of allowing violent criminals into the US (and letting them in illegally) because we have no concern or care for the safety of our fellow citizens. We just want them to come in so they can be illegally registered as Democratic voters. This babble is barely rational, yet it's coming from the president of the United States.

The absolute contempt the president expresses towards tens of millions of Americans is without parallel in U.S. history. Respect is a two-way street. How can any of the people Trump regularly targets have any respect for him? When he shows absolute disrespect for us?

We've never had anything like this before in this country and I don't know how we're going to go on like this another two years. Every freakin night I come home and Trump is on the news with more nonsense. The guy never shuts up.

It's a total nightmare and I just hope it's over on January 20, 2021.
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Here's my point: Note the above, it's bad enough, but the president -- the president of the United States! -- retweeted it. Are you kidding me? Retweeted that anyone who believed there might be Trump/Russian collusion -- a suspicion fueled by events -- is an imbecile. Anyone. That the collusion investigation is based on a hoax. It's a scam. This is tens of millions of American people they're talking about. The level of disrespect from a president towards his own fellow citizens is unprecedented. Like a lot of loyal Americans who happen to be a registered Democrat, I've had to listen to the president repeatedly slam us. The other day the American president called people who question the wisdom of building the 2,000 mile border wall "radical leftists." He says over and over that the Democratic Party is in favor of an open border, allowing easy transit for illicit drugs, that Democrat's are in favor of allowing violent criminals into the US (and letting them in illegally) because we have no concern or care for the safety of our fellow citizens. We just want them to come in so they can be illegally registered as Democratic voters. This babble is barely rational, yet it's coming from the president of the United States.



The absolute contempt the president expresses towards tens of millions of Americans is without parallel in U.S. history. Respect is a two-way street. How can any of the people Trump regularly targets have any respect for him? When he shows absolute disrespect for us?



We've never had anything like this before in this country and I don't know how we're going to go on like this another two years. Every freakin night I come home and Trump is on the news with more nonsense. The guy never shuts up.



It's a total nightmare and I just hope it's over on January 20, 2021.
It's all he good. He didn't call them deplorable.
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It's a total nightmare and I just hope it's over on January 20, 2021.
Here's the thing: it won't be.

You know why? Because a sizeable portion of Americans wanted that nightmare; some even knew exactly what would happen, but voted that way anyway; some because they thought it was the right thing to do, others in order to spite you. Those people are still there, and they'll still vote come 2020 and beyond.
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Again, we've never had a president who lost the popular election by 2.9 million votes. The closest was George W. Bush in 2000 (Link with totals) and Trump's losing margin was five times greater! Let's be honest, he won on a total fluke. I don't see lightning striking twice.
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
Here's the thing: it won't be.



You know why? Because a sizeable portion of Americans wanted that nightmare; some even knew exactly what would happen, but voted that way anyway; some because they thought it was the right thing to do, others in order to spite you. Those people are still there, and they'll still vote come 2020 and beyond.
Others just feel so abandoned and forgotten that they don't give a ****. If rest of America gets screwed they had it coming
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Remember when Trump didn't leave the white house during the shutdown? Serendipitously the golf simulator at the white house was upgraded during that time at his expense.



Now he can golf and rage tweet Faux News at the same executive time.
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They can't just get him a Wii?
Naaah! This model cost so much because it has the Drive Your Cart Onto the Green option.
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Naaah! This model cost so much because it has the Drive Your Cart Onto the Green option.
It probably has the option to "Play The Whole Game From The Cart" so he doesn't even have to get out of it to hit the ball. He just gets a lackey to hit it for him.
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It probably has the option to "Play The Whole Game From The Cart" so he doesn't even have to get out of it to hit the ball. He just gets a lackey to hit it for him.

And he has only the very best lackeys.
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And he has only the very best lackeys.
He fires them if they are not.
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