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28th August 2007, 12:10 PM | #7281 |
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28th August 2007, 12:15 PM | #7282 |
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There wouldn't be much of a heel if this was a climb up a small mound.
Here's a still from the National Geographic version: |
28th August 2007, 12:20 PM | #7283 |
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I'll try to post this again. This is the National Geographic version.
Also the link is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu86A...elated&search= |
28th August 2007, 12:20 PM | #7284 |
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http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ima..._animation.htm
Best shot for your argument is here, Luminous. IMO, of course. Your still is worse than mine, imo. |
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28th August 2007, 12:22 PM | #7285 |
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Sorry, it's not posting for some reason. I must be doing this wrong. I'll try again once I figure this out.
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28th August 2007, 12:24 PM | #7286 |
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Can you see my posts LTC? I can't for some reason.
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28th August 2007, 12:26 PM | #7288 |
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I can see your still when I click on it. It's very poor quality and only shows part of the object in question, imo.
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28th August 2007, 12:28 PM | #7289 |
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Yeah, but it shows more clearly that it's in dirt.
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28th August 2007, 12:29 PM | #7290 |
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Davis is claiming that Patterson backed up quite a bit so that his own boot prints are visible out in front of him.
Yet another version of events... |
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28th August 2007, 12:30 PM | #7291 |
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By the way LTC, what is the source of your image, and has it been filtered in any way?
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28th August 2007, 12:31 PM | #7292 |
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I don't think anyone is arguing that it's not in dirt, Luminous.
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28th August 2007, 12:35 PM | #7293 |
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The film lines up with the claim. Stills show possible boot prints, Roger's thumb and one definite boot print.
Check out the gifs I made here: http://www.mid-americabigfoot.com/ph...=1975&start=30 At the bottom of the page... |
28th August 2007, 12:39 PM | #7294 |
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Yeah, someone was implying it was a stick.
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28th August 2007, 12:39 PM | #7295 |
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No image, still or clip, of the PGF currently available is an original, as far as I know. |
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28th August 2007, 12:43 PM | #7296 |
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If this is not a big piece of dead wood slightly elevated in certain places then why is there a shadow cast by just to the left of what's being claimed as a bigfoot print?
It reminds me of the two closely spaced trees bit (58 feet apart). |
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28th August 2007, 12:44 PM | #7297 |
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Even in that animated version it appears that there is an incline of sorts. There also appears to be a possible mid-foot pressure ridge.
Again, is your version digitally filtered in any way? |
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Why didn't Roger shoot stills of the tracks, Luminous?
He had still cameras with him. |
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28th August 2007, 12:48 PM | #7299 |
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28th August 2007, 12:51 PM | #7301 |
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Who did the enhancements, you?
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28th August 2007, 12:55 PM | #7302 |
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Sorry, but I couldn't type anymore when I read your hilarious claim that Patterson's thumb was in the shot.
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28th August 2007, 12:56 PM | #7303 |
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Beside the possible track, yes. But the "track" appears to be in the soil. Also, the stick is probably only one of thousands that Patty had to navigate through. It was not all sand. I have pictures of the exact site as it is now (Yes, I know it has changed in 40 years, but the area is still a "mine-field" of sticks, rocks, logs and debris.)
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28th August 2007, 12:57 PM | #7305 |
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His thumb is in a shot right after the footprint. Check out my link and you'll see for yourself. It's there.
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28th August 2007, 12:59 PM | #7306 |
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I'm talking about you LTC. Did you enhance that shot?
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28th August 2007, 01:00 PM | #7308 |
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Why would I want it to look more like a footprint? |
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28th August 2007, 01:03 PM | #7309 |
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28th August 2007, 01:10 PM | #7310 |
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I'm not sure why his thumb ended up in the shot. Maybe that's why that little piece of film was cropped out of one copy in the first place. Maybe Roger later thought it was not professional looking. Or maybe someone else is the culprit. All I know is that a whole piece of film was cut out of one of the copies. Why? It's anyone's guess.
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28th August 2007, 01:17 PM | #7311 |
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28th August 2007, 01:20 PM | #7312 |
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It almost looks like a tear was spliced, come to think of it.
Don't really see how a thumb could get in the shot. |
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28th August 2007, 01:23 PM | #7313 |
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It's possible that the "print" was made when the soil was damp and that it might have dried out and "caked" together and was lifted by the heat of the sun. It could also be that it lifted as the other half of the track had collapsed into what appears to be a possible incline behind it. Lots of possible causes, but we'll never know for sure because we weren't there.
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I'm going to say that my third still above most likely shows a tear in the film that was poorly spliced.
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28th August 2007, 01:27 PM | #7316 |
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There certainly is doubt about it and it's the height of arrogance to claim there isn't. Although I actually find it amusing, myself. |
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I'm taken aback. I'm gob-smacked, dumb-founded, flabber-gasted, blown away. I'd like to say that I've never seen pareidolia so far gone before but sadly, no. Forget the obvious piece of dead wood, the thumb claim is spectacular. Nevermind asking why his thumb would be in the shot, I wanna know why it's transparent.
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28th August 2007, 01:29 PM | #7318 |
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Was this before or after the 3.5 mile jaunt after Patty? Where are these still camera shots? Who wouldn't take a few good shots with a much better camera they had with them? |
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28th August 2007, 01:31 PM | #7319 |
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I guess LTC8K6 beat me to this. It's a log or a very big branch. BTW Lum, virtually every clip and/or photo you have ever seen in regards to this has been run through a filter mask of some sort, high pass, color, sharpening . . . optical printer and/or digital.
This is one of those posts when I have question why I even bother. m |
28th August 2007, 01:32 PM | #7320 |
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Eh. I'm still thinking repairs to a torn film.
Nevermind. Mangler's much clearer shots kill that idea. It's just wood, imo. It even has a shadow, so it cannot possibly be Roger's thumb, imo. |
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