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12th August 2007, 11:59 AM | #6961 |
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12th August 2007, 01:10 PM | #6962 |
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Years of work, by someone. As for the quality of those years of work let's for comparison have a peek at our saviour Bob H decked out in his very own brand new Bigfoot suit. Here it is with all the bells and whistles of modern technology. Just another baggy also ran (or compliant gait as it were). I understand that the production where this still comes from has yet to be released and I'm not surprised. Could it be for more costume tweaking? Now one poster was kind enough to throw Star Trek into this party so while they're at let's see if anyone can find the Muguru (sp) you know the big white poisionous Ape that bites Kirk. |
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12th August 2007, 02:41 PM | #6964 |
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Logic,
1. You might want to get the scale a bit closer. 2. The camera elevation and angle are not the same. 3. The subject is not walking the same heading relative to the cameras. 4. The subject is not striding-out in one of the clips which would put it's arms and legs in different positions. 5. It's not the same costume. 6. They are trying to compare a mans gait and stride when he is 36-38 years older. 7. One should never try to compare these bad pieces of film. 8. Why do I even bother with this? m |
12th August 2007, 03:45 PM | #6965 |
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I know someone who found at least a partial bear skeleton. We have friends who are commercial artists and who live in the Appalachians at the end of a dirt road. They do have electricity and plumbing, but they're pretty far off the beaten path. A few years back they were hiking out to a waterfall and found the desiccated remains of a medium-sized bear. They took the skull, cleaned it, and have used it as a prop in some of their paintings. They also have an alligator skull that a friend of theirs found in Florida--I'd imagine a 'gator skull would be an even rarer find than a bear's.
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12th August 2007, 04:08 PM | #6966 |
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I was taking my lead from how magic tricks/trickery are exposed. Which is by duplicating the trick/effect. In the case of comparing these two objects A does not imply B any more than C implys B. Now I wonder if Randi himself could be prevailed upon himself to fund a real bulletproof cinamatic recreation of this film. Whoever is making the thing that put Bob H into or back into a Bigfoot suit needs a better costume person. If there are excellent pics of the Bob H in the new suit lets see them, we have after all seen the bad one. I do feel it is a rather pathetic thing to ask a man so many years older to recreate a physical feat accomplished in youth. But anybody could be in that suit and it still wouldn't look like PGF. We live in a world where there are 6 billion people, there isn't a shotage of potential suit wearers but make the suit first, with all of the little nitpicky details that are debated on both side of the issue. Find an actor fit enough to wear the suit and and on some sunny October afternoon send it across a forest creek bank with a preferably Kodak 16 mm camera rolling. If for no other reason than to understand an enigma of 40 years. Now that would be an act of pure science!
Again it seems harder to prove its fake than it is to prove its real. |
12th August 2007, 04:51 PM | #6967 |
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It's simple..
The people who could do it, don't care, and certainly don't want to spend the money .. Surely you realize, relatively few people care about this at all .. |
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12th August 2007, 05:39 PM | #6968 |
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12th August 2007, 07:50 PM | #6969 |
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12th August 2007, 08:33 PM | #6970 |
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Dracula meets the Wizard of OZ.
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13th August 2007, 05:21 AM | #6971 |
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13th August 2007, 05:30 AM | #6972 |
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Well, you can see Bob H in the suit anytime you want, according to quite a few people! Just watch the PGF.
Late October temperatures at Bluff Creek probably don't get above 60F, actually. You might sweat in the suit, but it's not like it would be 80 or 90 degrees. As far as duplicating the event, as Diogenes said the people who can couldn't possibly care less about bigfoot, and the believers are afraid they'll actually do it if they really try. The skeptics see little need to prove it's fake, and rightly so, imo. Now if you ask me, I don't know if the film is genuine or not. |
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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13th August 2007, 07:51 PM | #6974 |
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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14th August 2007, 08:33 AM | #6975 |
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This thread is like the energizer bunny...it just keeps going and going and...
I wholeheartedly agree with RayG and also would like to know where the recent non anecdotal evidence is. To my askew way of thinking every day that has passed since the CMF (Con Man's Flick) with no Bigfeetsus is just another nail in the Coffin of the Unusual Size for Stinky Bipedal North American Ape Men. Everything and I do mean......Evvvvvvvvvverything since the CMF has been proven useless...The buttcast...the bison hair...the Memorial Day Footage...everything Freeman and Biscardi ever brought forth...all of it usesless and obvious BS...isn't it odd that as technology has advanced Bigfeetsus footage has gotten worse? We have gone from the CMF to...to what?? Bobby Clarke's pathetic excuse for a blobsquatch?!?! The Memorial Day Footage?!?! C'mon...this is pretty much a stone cold lead pipe lock... Bigfeetsus is Bullscheize. Melissa feel free to get over it already...oh....and for all that's right with democracy... ..move on with your life would ya!?! The Mad Man |
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Here is the simplified version:
"The PG film may or may not show a bigfoot." "It does." "It does not." "Yes, it does." "No, it does not." "Does so." "No, it doesn't." "Yes, it does." "No, it doesn't." "Yes, it does." "No, it doesn't." "Yes, it does." "No, it doesn't." "You suck." "No, you do." "Yes, it does." "No, it doesn't." "Yes, it does." "No, it doesn't." "Yes, it does, infinity." "No, it doesn't, infinity plus one." "Yes, it does, infinity times two." "No, it doesn't, infinity times infinity." And so on and on. |
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14th August 2007, 12:03 PM | #6977 |
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Bigfoot, spam, and eggs...
Spam, Spam, Spam, bigfoot, and eggs... |
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14th August 2007, 01:32 PM | #6978 |
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Yep, and the evidence backing your claim is reliable.
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Or: Cowboy 1: Dammit, three weeks looking for bigfoot and we found nothing... I'm drowning in debts! Cowboy 2: Yeah, the closest thing we got were those test shots with the gorilla suit... Cowboy 1: Hmm... I think I jus had a great idea... Or: Cowboy 1: OK, we're set. Lets go make a million dollars! Cowboy 2: But do we have to stay there for three weeks? Cowboy 1: C'mon, we've talked about this before... We need to find suitable places, make several shots to make sure we got things right and no one would believe we caught a bigfoot on film after three days in the wild! Cowboy 2: Well... Maybe we could just say we were there for three weeks... Cowboy 1: Nah, they may talk with our neighbours and find the truth. Don't worry, it'll be fun! We can hunt, fish, ride our horses... |
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14th August 2007, 03:11 PM | #6980 |
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Originally Posted by Mad hom
Nice to see your still thinking about me though You take care and have a nice life yourself.. I have lots of fun reading this thread - you all seriously crack me up. I do thank you for that. Glass houses, glass houses |
14th August 2007, 06:49 PM | #6981 |
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Psst..............want some stones?
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/fremont-lion/
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15th August 2007, 06:28 AM | #6986 |
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Let's trot out some bigfoot myth perpetuator's doofus excuses for no bigfoot roadkill.
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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15th August 2007, 09:01 AM | #6988 |
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Four hundred plus years of European-derived inhabitance and exploration of North America has not produced any confirmatory evidence of this Bigfoot creature. We don't have bones, a body or even DNA. The native tribes that existed here for thousands of years prior don't have any retained or discovered Bigfoot biological artifacts to present. This kind of historical confirmatory bankruptcy is quite reasonably considered evidence for absence. Forget the foot and buttprints. We should have had some Bigfoot meat (dead or alive) by now. This thing has got to produce roadkill, get shot intentionally/accidentally by a hunter, get captured or somehow trapped (Bigfoot never falls in wells) or be found dead. The lack of that stuff starts to add up over time. Rational people would start to doubt that this huge creature could evade confirmation by way of skill (behavior) or chance. Smart people are going to wonder why we have not yet found this creature (in a comprehensive taxonomic way) after all this time and circumstance. Any person who has ever set foot in the PNW woods can simply happen upon a dead Bigfoot. But yet there is nothing. Nothing like a real animal ever. Does this beast not succumb to the same fates as any other primate?
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15th August 2007, 03:08 PM | #6989 |
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Where did this quote come from? It looks like something Melissa said but I'd like to know where it was posted. Can you give me the url for that post please?
The Let's Talk Bigfoot show was a group endeavor and the reasons stated above have nothing to do with why I decided to do the show. What I've bolded doesn't even sound like anything I'd think Melissa would ever say. I'm in NO way addicted to bigfoot. It is a mild interest for me, certainly no addiction. In my mind our show is absolutely geared to talk about whether bigfoot is a myth or not. I for one am not in the believer camp so I want to talk to skeptics as often as "believers." |
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15th August 2007, 03:19 PM | #6990 |
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Those are all my own words.
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May we leave the Let's Talk Bigfoot show out of the mix when taking Melissa to task? The show is an endeavor by Melissa, myself, and the producers, Bob and Kathy Strain. While it has by a wide margin been the stage for bigfoot proponents, I've strived to find skeptics willing to do the show with us. I welcome anyone from this forum to come on the show as a guest. It is not my intention as a host for the show to be only a venue for proponents but balanced in viewpoints. If anyone (William) would like to do the show please e.mail me at teresamhall @ starband.net. I am not a "pattycake" and the show is not geared toward proponents only. I guess what I'm trying to say is could we leave the show out of the arguments with Melissa since she's not the only person on the show?
I am quite serious about my offer to interview the skeptical viewpoint of this forum. To date Benjamin Radford is the only skeptic who has agreed to appear. I think that's unfortunate with so many knowledgeable people on this forum who can speak to the other side of the bigfoot issue. |
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15th August 2007, 05:10 PM | #6992 |
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No, that doesn't sound like anything I would ever say, have said or will ever say.
Looks to me like William Parcher is practicing his trolling skills, and poorly at that. If this is what Critical thinking is - I am happy with who I am, and how I treat people. If this kind of thing is condoned by this board, I am really shocked. I re-read the posting guidelines, and it seems all opinions here are allowed. William Parcher seems to think only his opinion is allowed - say something he doesn't agree with, and he attacks you - personally.. Now thats a good critical thinker. Cant win your side of the discussion - hey, no problem make up lies and post them about your opponent, yeah thats the right thing to do. If this kind of thing is allowed - then I think its time to change the guidelines of this website. Continue with your trolling William Parcher - your making me look better every time you post these lies and general BS. |
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I'll make this quick, then on with your regular programming. Does anyone here have an active account with JSTOR?
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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Poor frustrated researcher is my guess.... after a few years .....Ok..make that weeks of exhaustive fieldwork the poor chap was unable to convince science of what he and the rest of Bigfeet Nation have known for quite some time now...that Hairy Bipeds of Unusual Size roam freely and without a care in the world across the unexplored hinterlands of the North American Plain and have done so for nigh these many years constantly eluding capture (whether on film or otherwise) repeatedly evading hunters, continually sidestepping any calamity that may leave a body and leaving nothing more than prints of their feet...hands....and...arse's.
Ghostly Ape Men with the uncanny ability to blur cameras at critical moments,who apparently have invisible poo and no discernible DNA. Mysterious creatures who never shed a hair and who never show themselves to anyone other than to those who couldn't zoom in on the Lincoln Monument without making him look like a Blobsquatch if their lives and the lives of their family depended on it. Creatures of mystery who's undocumented existence just needs a little embellishing to convince the huddled unwashed masses that they are real. So he did what needed doing by Criminy...he procured a cheap Mighty Joe Young outfit at the five and dime and schlepped around the campgrounds and provincial parks of the great white north inspiring others to look closer at the forest....not to mention to look deeper into their hearts to find the ability to truly...Bleev that Bigfeetsus is real. LOL |
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No, no, no, Madness. Your sly Freeman reference is all wrong. We should be saying 'he's lucky he didn't get shot' and we should keep saying that until someone asks us why no bigfeet have been shot. Then we should do a total 180 and talk about stunned hunters or insufficient calibre or you know, whatever sounds good.
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Until better evidence is provided, the best solution to the PGF is that it is a man in a suit. -Astrophotographer. 2 prints, 1 trackway, same 'dermals'? 'Unfortunately no' says Meldrum. I want to see bigfoot throw a pig... Is that wrong? -LTC8K6 |
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Was the guy shot?
You know, people wearing gorilla suits out there in the woods are supposed to get shot...
Originally Posted by Mad Hom
-You know, cameras are hard to use, the sightings are too short and you've gotta have a camera ready on your hands, autofocus is a pain the woods, one get nervous when suddenly seeing a bigfoot and messes the shot, cameras are heavy, most people do not use cameras... Have you seen the bigfoot cell phone movie? It was made by a person from the First Nations! That's pedigree, isn't it? - There are alleged bigfoot pieces of poo! And with unusual parasites, said to be from Asia. But its inconclusive when it comes to say it surely came from a bigfoot butt... - There are DNA samples claimed to be from bigfeet and bigfeet-like critters, and they are labelled as unidentified DNA. But actually the samples either are too degraded to allow anything other than to say "it came from a mammal" or were contaminated by human DNA... - There are alleged bigfeet hair samples. But they either look quite like human hair samples or are said to be contaminated by human hairs; and no, the folicles are not there to help us with the above item... In sum... WB, Mad Hom, but nothing has changed when it comes to evidence. You would have had some fun with some bigfoot trolls that were around for a while... |
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Second time, first was for nearly a year, this time, some minutes. I'm getting closer at a stunning rate! |
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