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Old 16th September 2022, 12:12 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Having trouble finding any tv coverage of the lineups to file past his coffin. Is that not a thing in the USA for those beloved to conservatives?
Can you imagine the lines of Trump's cultists at his Bedminster golf club when he dies and gets planted by the water hazard? Can't come soon enough.
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Old 16th September 2022, 12:52 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by CORed View Post
Somehow, "Investigate the Whitewater affair", which, IIRC, did result in one or two convictions, but no evidence turned up that the Clintons were involved in anything illegal, changed to "Find something, anything at all we can pin on Bill Clinton." He was like the cop in "Les Miserable" (whose name I don't remember) who pursued the hero for years because he escaped from prison to which he'd been sentenced for the heinous crime of stealing a loaf of bread to feed his starving family.

Trump loves to claim "witch hunt" any time he comes under scrutiny, but Starr conducted a real witch hunt against the Clintons.
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Old 16th September 2022, 01:01 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Lets be clear on who Ken Starr really was

He was a person of questionable integriity who claimed to be a "good Christian man" yet he spent years trying to avoid accountability for a flurry of sexual assault claims at Baylor University.
He was president of Baylor University when it was waging a cover up campaign over its male sports stars raping and sexually assaulting female students. Given that his whole goal as president was to big up Baylor's sports teams, you have to conclude that if he wasn't actively involved in the cover up, he was at least complicit in it.

Edit: in fact, Starr reinstated one of the rapists who had earlier been suspended for academic misconduct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baylor...l#Tevin_Elliot

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Old 18th September 2022, 07:24 AM   #84
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Can you imagine the lines of Trump's cultists at his Bedminster golf club when he dies and gets planted by the water hazard? Can't come soon enough.
And his kids rubbing lemon juice in their eyes so they can be seen weeping.
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Old 18th September 2022, 07:28 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
Starr was not a Nazi. He just thought he looked bitchin' in a Hugo Boss uniform.
That reminds me...

Someone once asked "what is a 'feminazi' anyway?" I said, "it's like a regular Nazi, but the uniforms are designed by Bob Mackie instead of Hugo Boss".
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Old 18th September 2022, 07:38 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle View Post
He was president of Baylor University when it was waging a cover up campaign over its male sports stars raping and sexually assaulting female students. Given that his whole goal as president was to big up Baylor's sports teams, you have to conclude that if he wasn't actively involved in the cover up, he was at least complicit in it.

Edit: in fact, Starr reinstated one of the rapists who had earlier been suspended for academic misconduct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baylor...l#Tevin_Elliot
And in the end, it's always the same thing - money. Whether it's the Roman Catholic Church or the NCAA, it's all about protecting your money. I remember something Jon Stewart said about the Jerry Sanduski rape issue, and the people, especially students, protesting "Joe Pa's" accountability for covering it up. He mentioned the Vatican's parallel issues and said, "nobody's trying to take away your religion - in this case football. They just want to see some of it's bishops held accountable for their actions".
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Old 18th September 2022, 12:41 PM   #87
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
That reminds me...

Someone once asked "what is a 'feminazi' anyway?" I said, "it's like a regular Nazi, but the uniforms are designed by Bob Mackie instead of Hugo Boss".
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Old 18th September 2022, 12:49 PM   #88
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Bill Clinton was asked by Fareed Zakaria about Starr's death. His response:

"I read the obituary, and I realized that his family loved him, and I think that’s something to be grateful for. And when your life is over, that’s all there is to say. But I was taught not to talk about people that, you know…I have nothing to say, except that I’m glad he died with the love of his family."

I can imagine Trump's response when asked about the death of Nancy Pelosi or someone on the Jan 6 Committee. The words "loser", "witch hunt", "hoax", "Russia, Russia, Russia", "persecute" and "the likes of which were never seen before", come to mind.
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Old 18th September 2022, 02:41 PM   #89
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Bill Clinton was asked by Fareed Zakaria about Starr's death. His response:

"I read the obituary, and I realized that his family loved him, and I think that’s something to be grateful for. And when your life is over, that’s all there is to say. But I was taught not to talk about people that, you know…I have nothing to say, except that I’m glad he died with the love of his family."

I can imagine Trump's response when asked about the death of Nancy Pelosi or someone on the Jan 6 Committee. The words "loser", "witch hunt", "hoax", "Russia, Russia, Russia", "persecute" and "the likes of which were never seen before", come to mind.

Clinton was crapping on him in his own slick sort of way. He is probably still bitter about being caught in a lie. Starr did nothing wrong to Clinton. He did it to himself.
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Old 18th September 2022, 04:05 PM   #90
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
Clinton was crapping on him in his own slick sort of way. He is probably still bitter about being caught in a lie. Starr did nothing wrong to Clinton. He did it to himself.
I honestly don't give a **** if someone lies about something that isn't anyone else's ******* business. The only other person who's business it was was Hilary Clinton.

You still haven't named any specific acts of corruption that Ken Starr so heroically exposed. And I know conservatives generally think it's their business when any adult sticks his dick into another consenting adult, but I'm talking about real corruption - things that are illegal.

Ken Starr crawled up Clinton's colon with ground penetrating radar and bloodhounds, and the only thing he could get him on was lying, stupidly, about an embarrassing but perfectly legal sexual infidelity. If he'd found anything else he could have used he would have. It's one thing to come up empty handed, but Ken Starr went so far up Clinton's ass he needed oxygen and he still couldn't find ****.
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Old 18th September 2022, 07:04 PM   #91
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
Clinton was crapping on him in his own slick sort of way. He is probably still bitter about being caught in a lie. Starr did nothing wrong to Clinton. He did it to himself.
LOL! He was showing class. Maybe you just didn't recognize it.
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
I honestly don't give a **** if someone lies about something that isn't anyone else's ******* business. The only other person who's business it was was Hilary Clinton.

You still haven't named any specific acts of corruption that Ken Starr so heroically exposed. And I know conservatives generally think it's their business when any adult sticks his dick into another consenting adult, but I'm talking about real corruption - things that are illegal.

Ken Starr crawled up Clinton's colon with ground penetrating radar and bloodhounds, and the only thing he could get him on was lying, stupidly, about an embarrassing but perfectly legal sexual infidelity. If he'd found anything else he could have used he would have. It's one thing to come up empty handed, but Ken Starr went so far up Clinton's ass he needed oxygen and he still couldn't find ****.
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Bill Clinton was asked by Fareed Zakaria about Starr's death. His response:

"I read the obituary, and I realized that his family loved him, and I think thatís something to be grateful for. And when your life is over, thatís all there is to say. But I was taught not to talk about people that, you knowÖI have nothing to say, except that Iím glad he died with the love of his family."

I can imagine Trump's response when asked about the death of Nancy Pelosi or someone on the Jan 6 Committee. The words "loser", "witch hunt", "hoax", "Russia, Russia, Russia", "persecute" and "the likes of which were never seen before", come to mind.
Because Ken Starr's death is all about Donald Trump.
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Because Ken Starr's death is all about Donald Trump.
For Trump, everything is about him.
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LOL! He was showing class. Maybe you just didn't recognize it.

You are kidding, right?

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"I read the obituary, and I realized that his family loved him, and I think that’s something to be grateful for. And when your life is over, that’s all there is to say. But I was taught not to talk about people that, you know…I have nothing to say, except that I’m glad he died with the love of his family."

He "realized" Starr's family loved him? Why wouldn't they? That is his spite showing. It is like saying, "I was surprised to learn that someone loved this POS". He was taught not to talk about people that, "you know"? The last quip, "I’m glad he died with the love of his family", would have been enough to convey everything.

Seeing Dems laud this as "classy" can only mean that they see Clinton as a victim to Starr. It is laughable, but entirely predictable.
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Speaking of 'predictable'.......

Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post


You are kidding, right?


He "realized" Starr's family loved him? Why wouldn't they? That is his spite showing. It is like saying, "I was surprised to learn that someone loved this POS". He was taught not to talk about people that, "you know"? The last quip, "Iím glad he died with the love of his family", would have been enough to convey everything.

Seeing Dems laud this as "classy" can only mean that they see Clinton as a victim to Starr. It is laughable, but entirely predictable.

Thanks for confirming what I thought.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
He "realized" Starr's family loved him? Why wouldn't they? That is his spite showing. It is like saying, "I was surprised to learn that someone loved this POS". He was taught not to talk about people that, "you know"? The last quip, "Iím glad he died with the love of his family", would have been enough to convey everything.

Seeing Dems laud this as "classy" can only mean that they see Clinton as a victim to Starr. It is laughable, but entirely predictable.
Ladies and gentlement...I present to you, real "self-righteous virtue signaling"
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Dems are always guilty, Republicans must be given every benefit of the doubt.

this is so SOP, it's boring.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post


You are kidding, right?




He "realized" Starr's family loved him? Why wouldn't they? That is his spite showing. It is like saying, "I was surprised to learn that someone loved this POS". He was taught not to talk about people that, "you know"? The last quip, "Iím glad he died with the love of his family", would have been enough to convey everything.

Seeing Dems laud this as "classy" can only mean that they see Clinton as a victim to Starr. It is laughable, but entirely predictable.
It certainly is predictable that a person like Trump or his cronies would never say the equivalent of "my feelings are not the most important thing right now."
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No, really, Clinton should be obligated to pretend that he has nothing but love and respect for the hypocrite who tried to take down his presidency over a blowjob but then tried to sweep rape by college athletes under the rug.

So, Warp, any thoughts on the specific illegal acts of corruption that Starr exposed?
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Dems are always guilty, Republicans must be given every benefit of the doubt.

this is so SOP, it's boring.
Maybe Clinton's statement is just locker room talk?
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I don't know if this might be considered OT, but I wonder if that bit of perjury was actually what saved him in the end. If he had in fact admitted pre-, or even at the hearing, he would have followed it up with a formal address to the press, expressing his extreme repentance for his actions.
Then as observed script goes, there might be a bipartisan call for him "to do the right thing". He might very well have been convinced to resign, and done it.
His act of perjury perhaps saved him. There was a circling of wagons around him, and enough was being dug up to reveal that Ken Starr was in fact a vindictive, hypocritical, partisan slime...which really, towards the end rendered the whole thing a.damp squid.

(I had the urge to make a joke about cum stains being washed away, but refrained.... Aren't you all proud of me?)
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Re: Clinton's comments on Ass-wipe Star's death...
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"I read the obituary, and I realized that his family loved him, and I think that’s something to be grateful for. And when your life is over, that’s all there is to say.

He "realized" Starr's family loved him? Why wouldn't they?
Plenty of families become estranged.

Why wouldn't they love Starr? Maybe some people in his family had integrity, and recognize that a giant hypocrite who tries to cover up sexual assaults, and who goes after Clinton while at the same time excusing a man who supported overthrowing a legitimate election is someone they might not necessarily love, despite sharing a few chromosomes.

Or maybe Clinton's "realization" is not whether ass-wipe Starr is loved by his family, but the realization is regarding the "something someone should be grateful for."
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Dems are always guilty, Republicans must be given every benefit of the doubt.

this is so SOP, it's boring.

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LOL! He was showing class. Maybe you just didn't recognize it.
To some decency is seen to be a ploy, because some cannot be decent without deceitful motives
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Clinton was crapping on him in his own slick sort of way. He is probably still bitter about being caught in a lie. Starr did nothing wrong to Clinton. He did it to himself.
Wait a second. He was never indicted and found guilty.
According to you anyone complaining about it is a whiney brat.
Also, Process Crimes are null and void!
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To some decency is seen to be a ploy, because some cannot be decent without deceitful motives
Of course, in the opposition all virtue is nothing but signalling. You could be a modern-day Joan of Arc and the trumpers of the world would make it about your tits.
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Of course, in the opposition all virtue is nothing but signalling. You could be a modern-day Joan of Arc and the trumpers of the world would make it about your tits.
...or your voice.
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