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Old 29th May 2020, 03:32 PM   #841
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Originally Posted by Babbylonian View Post
To be fair, looting is a lot worse than murdering someone.
Only if the murder victim is black and the stores are white owned. Banks looting billions from sub-par mortage holders is just fine.
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Old 29th May 2020, 03:34 PM   #842
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Only if the murder victim is black and the stores are white owned. Banks looting billions from sub-par mortage holders is just fine.
Plz.
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Old 29th May 2020, 04:06 PM   #843
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Trump Retweeted

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Old 29th May 2020, 04:12 PM   #844
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Retweeted

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Too little, too late.
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Old 29th May 2020, 04:35 PM   #845
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Too little, too late.
That worked for me because I'm stupid.
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Old 29th May 2020, 04:41 PM   #846
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
Funny how that Dimensional Chess value has increased during Trump's reign. It used to be that people asked if he was playing 4-D Chess.
When I first heard that I thought that it was a terrible analogy. No one knows 4-D Chess well enough to know if Trump was winning or giving away all his pieces.

In any case now we know he is playing pigeon chess.

(And pigeon chess is exactly what his supporters want to see).
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Old 29th May 2020, 04:55 PM   #847
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That worked for me because I'm stupid.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:12 PM   #848
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Originally Posted by blutoski View Post
Is that stored somewhere? How would a citizen access it.

I'm not trying to be a jackass, I'm asking sincerely. What's this public record you're referencing?
The White House is required by law to keep all presidential records. I *assume* the systems to effectuate that have not been compromised. Maybe I should have made that assumption more explicit.

That the records are preserved does not imply that the public has access to them. I am not knowledgeable about all the applicable rules and regulations.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:15 PM   #849
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Originally Posted by blutoski View Post
Which one? (IIRC, there were... five? Six?)
I was referring to the Clinton investigation while Bill was president; there was only one of those but iit went on for years (literally). You're thinking of the Hillary Clinton investigations regarding Benghazi, of which there were seven.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:17 PM   #850
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Sorry, I should have replied to what you replied to, the faux apology.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:18 PM   #851
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Sorry, I should have replied to what you replied to, the faux apology.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:19 PM   #852
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Trump held a press conference today that wasn‘t really a press conference. After making reporters wait for a full hour, he read off some prepared remarks and then fled the scene, dodging all questions about yesterday’s hidden tweet.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:23 PM   #853
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Oh yea, his cowardice is showing more and more. I'm thinking that even his cult followers are starting to see it.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:25 PM   #854
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The White House is required by law to keep all presidential records. I *assume* the systems to effectuate that have not been compromised.
I don't know if there is an actual "system" for archiving presidential records... I think the law just says they have to be stored somehow/somewhere. They could probably print it on toilet paper and stuff it wadded up in an old coffee can.

But given stubby mcbonespur's disdain for the law it wouldn't surprise me if he is ignoring the law. (After all, the government is currently employing people to tape together documents that trump has shredded... It wouldn't surprise me if they aren't bothering to archive anything).



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Old 29th May 2020, 05:27 PM   #855
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Oh yea, his cowardice is showing more and more. I'm thinking that even his cult followers are starting to see it.
Its almost like he is a snowflake.

Seriously, I doubt his followers care... They probably just think "fake news isn't worth talking to".

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Old 29th May 2020, 05:29 PM   #856
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Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
Trump was not my target. The persistent 30-40% of the populace that comprise his deplorable supporters are the risible and useless wreckage of humanity that need a goddamned good shock.
That cohort has always been around. It's 30-40% of the voting popuilation which (sadly) is only 50% of the adult population. And, finally, I wouldn't assume 100% of Trump supporters fall into the "deplorable" category. It's bad enough - don't needlessly magnify the problem.

It won't take a '45-like smack down to neuter these guys as you suggest. A very public, very aggressive public shaming effort should push most of them back under their rocks.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

MAIL-IN VOTING WILL LEAD TO MASSIVE FRAUD AND ABUSE. IT WILL ALSO LEAD TO THE END OF OUR GREAT REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE CAN NEVER LET THIS TRAGEDY BEFALL OUR NATION. BIG MAIL-IN VICTORY IN TEXAS COURT TODAY. CONGRATS!!!
Yep. I'd shed some crocodile tears but I just can't be bothered. Sucks to be you, Trump.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:35 PM   #858
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Oh yea, his cowardice is showing more and more. I'm thinking that even his cult followers are starting to see it.
Nope. His base will never see it. They're unimportant...a lost cause. Who are important are the voters who held their noses and voted for him because they thought he'd really 'drain the swamp', wanted to try someone who wasn't a politician but a businessman, and/or hated Hillary more.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:44 PM   #859
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I was referring to the Clinton investigation while Bill was president; there was only one of those but iit went on for years (literally). You're thinking of the Hillary Clinton investigations regarding Benghazi, of which there were seven.
My memory is that the Ken Starr investigation cost $40million.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:49 PM   #860
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Trump is really increasing the pace. Obamagate. Twitter. Minnesota. Hong Kong. WHO. He grabs half of the frontpage everywhere in the world. Just nobody mention 100,000 dead.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:52 PM   #861
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The boy robot pipes up. How cute. **** him.
Then you'll have to **** me too. I don't want any private, unaccountable to the public, company lawfully engaging in censorship. It's obvious where that could lead.
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Old 29th May 2020, 05:55 PM   #862
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Then you'll have to **** me too. I don't want any private, unaccountable to the public, company lawfully engaging in censorship. It's obvious where that could lead.
Already happens - I'm sure you can think of examples. We have decided as a society that SOME censorship by private companies is ok.
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Old 29th May 2020, 06:09 PM   #863
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

The National Guard has arrived on the scene. They are in Minneapolis and fully prepared. George Floyd will not have died in vain. Respect his memory!!!


REVOKE 230!
WHAT!? Just stopping for a moment reveals this is meaningless garbage. He would have died in vain if the National Guard didn't show up. Did Floyd die in vain or not in vain have anything at all to do with his death?

Jesus, what an idiot....what a harmful idiot.
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Ferguson
Baltimore
Charlottesville
Minneapolis

Fine country we have. If Obama couldn't ease this tension, Trump....LOL...no chance.

But Michigan yokels get to protest all they like.
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Old 29th May 2020, 06:14 PM   #865
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Then you'll have to **** me too. I don't want any private, unaccountable to the public, company lawfully engaging in censorship. It's obvious where that could lead.
By definition, a private company can't engage in censorship. That's the word for when government controls speech.

So I'm curious about your statement... what are you talking about?
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Old 29th May 2020, 06:14 PM   #866
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My memory is that the Ken Starr investigation cost $40million.
And that was over 2 decades ago. In today's dollars, that would be over $60 million. (And that's in addition to millions more spent by the republicans in other Clinton investigations.

So lets see:

Starr investigates Clinton, costs $40 million (or $60 million), and if I remember, other than the impeachment there were no charges laid against other people.

Mueller investigates Trump, it costs $32 million (or only half the cost in today's dollars compared to the Starr investigation), they recovered more than that from legal action against Manafort, and dozens of people were either charged, were convicted, or plead guilty.
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Old 29th May 2020, 06:23 PM   #867
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Trump is really increasing the pace. Obamagate. Twitter. Minnesota. Hong Kong. WHO. He grabs half of the frontpage everywhere in the world. Just nobody mention 100,000 dead.
My big concern is what he does after he runs out of the low hanging fruit.
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Old 29th May 2020, 06:26 PM   #868
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My memory is that the Ken Starr investigation cost $40million.
Around that, yeah. Now project that to current dollars. There's probably a web site to do that but it's not worth pursuing - for me, anyway.

ETA: Segnosaur covered it well enough.

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Correction noted. 104,000-D Chess.
Aw, you aren't doing powers of 2 chess anymore? disappointed.
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https://twitter.com/letamericavote/s...845616130?s=20
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More proof @realDonaldTrump is lying about voting by mail being insecure or fraudulent: not only does he vote by mail himself, he has encouraged his supporters to do so.

If it is good enough for them, it should be good enough for all Americans.
Video embedded in tweet.
Dear political commentators:

Please stop trying to apply rules of fact and logic to Trump claims/statements like these. He doesn’t care. He isn’t going to suddenly come to his senses, slap his forehead and say, “Of course! How could I have been so mistaken? Thank you for helping set me straight!”

You haven’t triumphantly caught him in a hypocritical corner here nor anytime before. Why? He doesn’t give two, one, or even a fraction of a **** about voting by mail or what Hunter Biden may have been up to in The Ukraine or Robert Mueller or any of it. He doesn’t care one way and he doesn’t care the other way.

What he cares about is sowing seeds of doubt in the minds of the 40%. He’s counting on his powers of pursuasion along with the eager gullibility of the base. That’s the way he wins.

Put another way: facts schmacts.
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But Michigan yokels get to protest all they like.
The Michigan yahoos cancelled - https://www.mlive.com/public-interes...nneapolis.html

The got wind that a group plans to protest George Floyd's murder. Seems they didn't want to be around a group of pissed off folks and decided to turn tail an run.

Granted, there is a perverse fascination in seeing what happens when armed redneck trumpers are confronted by armed members of Blacks and Latinos Against Racist Empowerment. They were in Lansing early this week as well - https://www.wxyz.com/news/lansing-pr...eople-of-color

https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/r...we-have-rights
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Beau of the Fifth Column is someone I like to hear speak on many subjects including Trump's escapade with Twitter:
https://youtu.be/smw0FS6S97s
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Each moment people talk about Twitter, they're not talking about 100,000 dead Americans. 128-D Chess.
...I think that it may be time to identify the standard right-wing tactics in a simple way. DDD. Distract, Distort, Deceive.

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Trump withdraws USA from WHO and declares Cold War II on China.

America First should really be America Alone.
Pretty much exactly the way to lose any conflict with China. Dealing with China effectively requires working together with the rest of the world.
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Old 29th May 2020, 09:31 PM   #874
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Won't they have to, if the EO does overturn the legal protections of platforms and makes them as responsible for content as publishers? If that becomes the case then platforms will have to drop any user who strays into any remarks that could get them sued. Trump's got a very extensive history of making offensive and libellous remarks on Twitter, and now threats of violence. As a direct consequence of the idiot getting what he wants he'd lose his account almost immediately.
I think I said that a while back. Twitter will simply purge all things Trump to the null device.
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I think I said that a while back. Twitter will simply purge all things Trump to the null device.
A question occurs: can people actually die from extreme anger? Is apoplexy an actual medical condition? Just wondering. Also: it might be easier to just repaint a room orange than clean it up.
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Beau of the Fifth Column is someone I like to hear speak on many subjects including Trump's escapade with Twitter:
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He's got a point with George Floyd.
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Trump Tweets

Looting leads to shooting, and that’s why a man was shot and killed in Minneapolis on Wednesday night - or look at what just happened in Louisville with 7 people shot. I don’t want this to happen, and that’s what the expression put out last night means....

....It was spoken as a fact, not as a statement. It’s very simple, nobody should have any problem with this other than the haters, and those looking to cause trouble on social media. Honor the memory of George Floyd!
Does he not know that 30,000 Americans get shot dead every year in the USA? This is normal. Doesn't even make the weekly Weebewalkin Gazette. Ed's Cow Sales are bigger news.
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Its almost like he is a snowflake.

Seriously, I doubt his followers care... They probably just think "fake news isn't worth talking to".

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To which the blindingly obvious reply is: So why does he show up to press conferences at all?
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Beau of the Fifth Column is someone I like to hear speak on many subjects including Trump's escapade with Twitter:
https://youtu.be/smw0FS6S97s
Trump hasn't snowed this guy. He's right on target.
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I like Trae Crowder; He used to do stand up comedy but always has been very opinionated.
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