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Old 25th May 2020, 05:51 PM   #281
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
Much of the junk I see here quoted as being tweeted by Trump isn’t written by trump. I don’t know or care what a “retweet” signifies in terms of belief but it’s a lot less insight than his own words would give us.
So? If he retweets something, you can hang every sin of the person he's retweeting on him. Who cares if it's fair?
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Old 25th May 2020, 05:55 PM   #282
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Sean Parnell is an American Hero. Connor Lamm has proven to be an American fraud, and a puppet for Crazy Nancy Pelosi. He said he would NOT vote for her for Speaker, and did. Will kill 2A. Voted to impeach (on nothing). A TOTAL & COMPLETE Sean Parnell Endorsement!

I have zero interest in moving the Republican National Convention to Doral in Miami, as falsely reported by the Fake News @nytimes in order to stir up trouble. Ballroom is not nearly big enough & would like to stay in N.C., whose gov. doesn’t even know if he can let people in?
I know that wherever the dumb **** holds his convention, there will be a spike here in the DC metro area afterwards. Trumptrash are the the worst offenders at social distancing and wearing masks. I don't care if their kind die (as if they had value) but they could infect real Americans.
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Old 25th May 2020, 06:35 PM   #283
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Maybe evangelicals are saving that for after Trump either loses the next election or the White House is won by the Democrats....

Before Trump: "The president must be Moral. Clinton must be impeached for his affair!"

During Trump: "It doesn't matter if the president has cheated on his wife or has never been to church."

After Trump: "We were tricked by Satan! We now think the president must be a godly person after all, and will now proceed to attack the Democrats because we don't think the president is Christian enough."
The Christians that I find defending him online seem to think he is a church-going man.

Part of the reason I find them so ******* delusional.

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then again, I cannot for the life of me distinguish between Russian trolls and true believers so maybe I’m just being duped by foreigners.
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Old 25th May 2020, 06:39 PM   #284
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
So back to this question of whether "social media has a left-wing bias."
With the Overton window now pushed so hard up against the right wing that it is deep into the wingnut region, that's how social media appears to those claiming overwhelming left-wing bias. Everyone is a commie but them.

Of course, the same can be said about extreme left-wingers too.
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Old 25th May 2020, 06:41 PM   #285
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I know that wherever the dumb **** holds his convention, there will be a spike here in the DC metro area afterwards. Trumptrash are the the worst offenders at social distancing and wearing masks. I don't care if their kind die (as if they had value) but they could infect real Americans.
That's the very sad part, as we out here see it. Stay safe.
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Old 25th May 2020, 07:43 PM   #286
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
The Christians that I find defending him online seem to think he is a church-going man.

Part of the reason I find them so ******* delusional.
Yeah, that's pretty silly. But Jesus coming back to life was totally real. People revisited the tomb, and his body wasn't there! How else can you explain that? Tide goes in, tide goes out.
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Old 26th May 2020, 02:32 AM   #287
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This might help explain why Trump doesn’t like to wear a mask in public. Biden today.

https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1265045009323241472

(Picture of Biden wearing a mask in link)
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Old 26th May 2020, 03:19 AM   #288
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Good read: Schrödinger's President

Originally Posted by Caitlin Johnstone
[...] What’s unusual about Trump is that there are multiple contradictory narratives running about him at the same time, within the same political factions. His own base is able to hold the belief that Trump is a brilliant strategic mastermind who is commanding a covert counter-coup to overthrow the Deep State, for example, while simultaneously excusing all the many, many establishment capitulations that he makes as being beyond his control. Much like Schrödinger’s proverbial pet Trump exists for them in two mutually contradictory states at once: a skillful hero who is taking down the Deep State, and a hapless victim who can’t control what happens in his own administration because it’s all being controlled by the Deep State.

On the other side of the imaginary partisan divide, Democrats spent years advancing the mutually contradictory narratives that Trump is at once (A) idiotic, (B) mentally ill, and (C) running a covert operation to sabotage America in the interests of Russia–but cleverly evading detection under intense scrutiny.

None of these narratives have anything to do with reality, yet they consume an immense amount of oxygen in US political discourse while Trump continues and expands the many depraved agendas of his predecessors.

Trump is not a populist champion of the little guy, nor a closet Nazi working to establish a white ethnostate, nor a Kremlin asset, but is in fact nothing other a miserable rich man from a miserable rich family who did what it takes to get elected to the presidency of a racist, corrupt, bloodthirsty empire and remain there for a full term. Everything else is narrative which is wholly divorced from reality. [...]
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Old 26th May 2020, 03:28 AM   #289
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
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On the other side of the imaginary partisan divide, Democrats spent years advancing the mutually contradictory narratives that Trump is at once (A) idiotic, (B) mentally ill, and (C) running a covert operation to sabotage America in the interests of Russia–but cleverly evading detection under intense scrutiny
Not contradictory at all.
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Old 26th May 2020, 03:52 AM   #290
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Not contradictory at all.
Nor particularly clever or covert. He is often pretty obvious about it, because, you know, he’s an idiot.
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Old 26th May 2020, 03:54 AM   #291
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Good read: Schrödinger's President
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On the other side of the imaginary partisan divide, Democrats spent years advancing the mutually contradictory narratives that Trump is at once (A) idiotic, (B) mentally ill, and (C) running a covert operation to sabotage America in the interests of Russia–but cleverly evading detection under intense scrutiny.
The State Department tells President Trump not to congratulate Putin on his election win and President Trump does it anyway. The president’s critics argue about which of those three possibilities (Or combination of these three possibilities) best explains this inexplicable behavior.

The CIA tells President Trump to not share specific intelligence information with the Russians because the Russians will be able to infer who gave us the info and what that nation’s intelligence capabilities are. The president shares it anyway and the president’s critics argue about which of those three possibilities (or combination of these three possibilities) best explains this inexplicable behavior.

The president announces that President Obama is 100% Responsible for the invasion of Crimea and that Putin should share no blame. The president’s critics yadda yadda.

The president insists that Russia should be let back into the G7. Yadda yadda

The president spends 3 hours alone with Putin with no American taking notes. Yadda yadda.

The president announces that there was no Russian interference in the 2016 election despite a half dozen different US intelligence agencies documenting it. Yadda yadda

The president announces that he is absolutely confident that Putin did not interfere in 2016 because the president looked Putin in the eye as Putin denied it. Yadda yadda


We can go on and on if you like.
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Old 26th May 2020, 04:22 AM   #292
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Nobody claimed Trump was running a clever Russian operation. Rather, he runs a Russia friendly government, with minimal efforts to hold Putin back. Putin could take Ukraine and Trump would let him.

Russia via Deutsche bank is a major lender to Trump hotel business.

Dismantling NATO is part of Trump second term.

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Old 26th May 2020, 04:25 AM   #293
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Maybe evangelicals are saving that for after Trump either loses the next election or the White House is won by the Democrats....

Before Trump: "The president must be Moral. Clinton must be impeached for his affair!"

During Trump: "It doesn't matter if the president has cheated on his wife or has never been to church."

After Trump: "We were tricked by Satan! We now think the president must be a godly person after all, and will now proceed to attack the Democrats because we don't think the president is Christian enough."
These people are so unprincipled it's disgusting. Their ideology is entirely built on maintaining power through fear and propaganda (any Democrat left of Hitler is an evil commie, socialist, America hating anti-christ terrorist) and not actual principled beliefs. I've noticed a trend of right wingers actively avoiding criticism of literally ANY Republican no matter how vile or egregious their misdeeds but the moment a Democrat gaffes they become principled puritanical pearl clutchers.
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Old 26th May 2020, 04:40 AM   #294
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Not contradictory at all.
Reads to me like a false trichotomy.
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Old 26th May 2020, 05:10 AM   #295
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Joe Biden’s handling of the H1N1 Swine Flu was a complete and total disaster. Even polls on the matter were terrible!
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Old 26th May 2020, 05:19 AM   #296
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Sean Parnell is an American Hero. Conor Lamb has proven to be an American fraud, and a puppet for Crazy Nancy Pelosi. He said he would NOT vote for her for Speaker, and did. Will kill 2A. Voted to impeach (on nothing). A TOTAL & COMPLETE Sean Parnell Endorsement!
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Old 26th May 2020, 05:20 AM   #297
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There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. Mail boxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged & even illegally printed out & fraudulently signed. The Governor of California is sending Ballots to millions of people, anyone.....

....living in the state, no matter who they are or how they got there, will get one. That will be followed up with professionals telling all of these people, many of whom have never even thought of voting before, how, and for whom, to vote. This will be a Rigged Election. No way!
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With the proviso that, by "fair number of Republicans," we're talking about the rank-and-file, I would agree that a lot, even most of them, are people with intelligence and integrity- I just don't think it's necessary to demonize people with whom I simply don't agree on politics; even aside from the utility of it, it's painting with too broad a brush to call them stupid or mean, the same sort of brush they use when they paint liberals as evil commies (or whatever). As for the intelligence of McConnell and others- my questions are predicated on that assumption, it's the integrity I doubt.
That would be the 10% of registered republicans who do not have a high opinion of Trumps leadership? Where are these people, and can they have integrity if they refuse to show it?
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Old 26th May 2020, 05:37 AM   #299
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Nor particularly clever or covert. He is often pretty obvious about it, because, you know, he’s an idiot.
Yup. If that is a clever covert operation, I'd like to see a dumb, obvious one.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. Mail boxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged & even illegally printed out & fraudulently signed. The Governor of California is sending Ballots to millions of people, anyone.....

....living in the state, no matter who they are or how they got there, will get one. That will be followed up with professionals telling all of these people, many of whom have never even thought of voting before, how, and for whom, to vote. This will be a Rigged Election. No way!
Is there someone in the Whitehouse who writes these? It's appropriately Trumpian stream of consciousness, but, (random capitals aside) correctly spelled and grammatically correct (including 'whom') so I can't believe his tiny fingers mashed it out.

Strange job, sitting there trying to think 'What would the president say if he was coherent enough?'
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Not contradictory at all.
Nor is fighting against a foe (the 'deep state' in this case) while still being a victim of said foe.
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Nor is fighting against a foe (the 'deep state' in this case) while still being a victim of said foe.

We used to see something similar here all the time. Claims that he had "all the power" while simultaneously being stopped in his tracks by sabotage from the Democrats.
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The opening of a Cold Case against Psycho Joe Scarborough was not a Donald Trump original thought, this has been going on for years, long before I joined the chorus. In 2016 when Joe & his wacky future ex-wife, Mika, would endlessly interview me, I would always be thinking....

....about whether or not Joe could have done such a horrible thing? Maybe or maybe not, but I find Joe to be a total Nut Job, and I knew him well, far better than most. So many unanswered & obvious questions, but I won’t bring them up now! Law enforcement eventually will?
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We used to see something similar here all the time. Claims that he had "all the power" while simultaneously being stopped in his tracks by sabotage from the Democrats.

Probably mostly originated by him, he's primarily the one I see and hear holding directly contradictory positions simultaneously. Perhaps the adderall helps take the sting off the cognitive dissonance.
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Trump Tweets...

I have zero interest in moving the Republican National Convention to Doral in Miami, as falsely reported by the Fake News @nytimes in order to stir up trouble. Ballroom is not nearly big enough & would like to stay in N.C., whose gov. doesn’t even know if he can let people in?
I hate that trump does this. How can the governor of North Carolina 'guarantee' the August convention will be able to proceed as planned? No one knows where we will be in August in terms of the virus. Why does trump insist on politicizing this to score cheap points with his base. trump is so disrespectful to people he doesn't agree with.

A rational response would be for the president to say, "Are we going to have the convention in North Carolina in August? Right now it's too soon to answer that question. But we have reached out to state officials and we will work with them to try and resolve this." The problem is, if trump reacted that way -- given his track record -- he never would have gotten elected. Instead he's doing what he's always done. Whatever works for him and screw everybody else.

Even Fox News polls show trump losing to Biden in November. Other polls show McConnell in a dead heat with his opponent in November. If these two are voted out of office it would a huge step in restoring democracy and a normal way of life. I have my fingers, toes and even my eyes crossed!
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I'd like to see the governor of NC treat Trump like the toddler that Trump is and refuse to allow the RNC happen in his state. Also, it would be a wise choice. With Covid-19, the increased use of prostitutes in August would only worsen the situation.
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The cognitive dissonance extends to within Fox, with the News section desperate to rejoin the fold of respectable News outlets, and the Opinion section trying to given Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones a run for their money.

I can't understand how anyone can have Fox as their primary source of information and not become schizophrenic.
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I'd like to see the governor of NC treat Trump like the toddler that Trump is and refuse to allow the RNC happen in his state. Also, it would be a wise choice. With Covid-19, the increased use of prostitutes in August would only worsen the situation.
Not to mention Trumps habit of stiffing locations he visits for the increased expenses. While the convention would probably be covered by the RNC, why take the risk?

This morning the conservative talking heads were complaining about how certain area have asserted they don't want trump coming there. Pontificating that they don't want to give him a platform to reach the people in that area. While potentially a valid concern it also simply ignores the history of other localities being stiffed for increased costs.
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I'd like to see the governor of NC treat Trump like the toddler that Trump is and refuse to allow the RNC happen in his state. Also, it would be a wise choice. With Covid-19, the increased use of prostitutes in August would only worsen the situation.
Also no other city even put in a bid to host the convention. What city is going to decide now to bid on it?
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The cognitive dissonance extends to within Fox, with the News section desperate to rejoin the fold of respectable News outlets, and the Opinion section trying to given Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones a run for their money.
Well, I don't take such hosts of shows (conservative or liberal) as necessarily actually holding the positions portrayed.


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I can't understand how anyone can have Fox as their primary source of information and not become schizophrenic.
The only way I can see people watching and listening to the conservative taking heads and not immediately being slapped in the face by how buffoonish and deliberately misleading they are is simply because it is ones primary, if not only, source of information.
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Also no other city even put in a bid to host the convention. What city is going to decide now to bid on it?
Oh, I'm sure Trump is more than willing to host it at one of his resorts. He'll provide the hookers too and take a small commission.
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Reads to me like a false trichotomy.
The author of that piece is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Old 26th May 2020, 07:49 AM   #313
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Oh, I'm sure Trump is more than willing to host it at one of his resorts. He'll provide the hookers too and take a small commission.
Teleconfrence it to all his resorts because none of them are individually large enough.
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Old 26th May 2020, 07:52 AM   #314
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
The author of that piece is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Apparently not the sharpest spoon either.
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Old 26th May 2020, 07:55 AM   #315
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Trump tweets

Stock Market up BIG, DOW crosses 25,000. S&P 500 over 3000. States should open up ASAP. The Transition to Greatness has started, ahead of schedule. There will be ups and downs, but next year will be one of the best ever!

We made most Governors look very good, even great, by getting them the Ventilators, unlimited Testing, and supplies, all of which they should have had in their own stockpiles. So they look great, and I just keep rolling along, doing great things and getting Fake Lamestream News!
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Old 26th May 2020, 07:58 AM   #316
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

Joe Biden’s handling of the H1N1 Swine Flu was a complete and total disaster. Even polls on the matter were terrible!
U.S. deaths from the H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic = 12,469.

U.S. deaths from the Coronavirus Pandemic = 99,498 and climbing.
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Old 26th May 2020, 07:59 AM   #317
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Maybe evangelicals are saving that for after Trump either loses the next election or the White House is won by the Democrats....

Before Trump: "The president must be Moral. Clinton must be impeached for his affair!"

During Trump: "It doesn't matter if the president has cheated on his wife or has never been to church."

After Trump: "We were tricked by Satan! We now think the president must be a godly person after all, and will now proceed to attack the Democrats because we don't think the president is Christian enough."
That post is about 4,000% more effort then they will actually bother putting into it. They just won't bring it up and will flat out never address it.

But, as I've said, their hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug. Adulterer Bill Clinton didn't give them 2 seats on the Supreme Court, Adulterer Donald Trump did. Brainteaser solved.
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Old 26th May 2020, 08:10 AM   #318
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
I hate that trump does this. How can the governor of North Carolina 'guarantee' the August convention will be able to proceed as planned? No one knows where we will be in August in terms of the virus. Why does trump insist on politicizing this to score cheap points with his base. trump is so disrespectful to people he doesn't agree with.

A rational response would be for the president to say, "Are we going to have the convention in North Carolina in August? Right now it's too soon to answer that question. But we have reached out to state officials and we will work with them to try and resolve this." The problem is, if trump reacted that way -- given his track record -- he never would have gotten elected. Instead he's doing what he's always done. Whatever works for him and screw everybody else.

Even Fox News polls show trump losing to Biden in November. Other polls show McConnell in a dead heat with his opponent in November. If these two are voted out of office it would a huge step in restoring democracy and a normal way of life. I have my fingers, toes and even my eyes crossed!
Or.
President Trump is constitutionally incapable of that type of rational response.

(Just some speculation, I am not a medical professional trying to diagnose a mental disorder)
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Old 26th May 2020, 08:12 AM   #319
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Lamb did not vote for Pelosi for speaker. That is a lie.
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Old 26th May 2020, 08:15 AM   #320
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https://twitter.com/elizaorlins/stat...61006897799173

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This letter is very powerful:
The letter in question is an open letter from the widower of Lori Klausutis, asking twitter to delete the tweets from Trump and Trump Jr. spreading long-debunked conspiracy theories about his dead wife.
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