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Old 26th May 2020, 08:18 AM   #321
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Originally Posted by Juniversal View Post
These people are so unprincipled it's disgusting. Their ideology is entirely built on maintaining power through fear and propaganda (any Democrat left of Hitler is an evil commie, socialist, America hating anti-christ terrorist) and not actual principled beliefs. I've noticed a trend of right wingers actively avoiding criticism of literally ANY Republican no matter how vile or egregious their misdeeds but the moment a Democrat gaffes they become principled puritanical pearl clutchers.
Exactly.

A dozen women accuse the president of unwanted sexual advances and the President is caught on tape suggesting that women should be grabbed by the *****. A single accusation is made against Biden and the collective response of the GOP is to look for fainting couches as they hold the back of their hands to their foreheads.
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Old 26th May 2020, 08:25 AM   #322
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
U.S. deaths from the H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic = 12,469.

U.S. deaths from the Coronavirus Pandemic = 99,498 and climbing.
Trump is clearly better. What return to greatness is he talking about ? US is clearly the best. Maybe if the whole third world unites, they might come close in few weeks. But now ? The best !
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Old 26th May 2020, 08:25 AM   #323
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Just a comparison of Trump’s days golfing vs Obama’s. No surprise Trump has spent much more time golfing than Obama did by this point in their terms of office, and has spent much more taxpayer money to do so. Also not surprising: after frequently attacking Obama spending time golfing, Trump promised to not golf as President.

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Old 26th May 2020, 08:32 AM   #324
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Not only does this disgusting behavior by Trump tear open old wounds, but one of his earlier tweets added something like "...maybe an affair?"

Not only does her family have to relive the tragedy, her husband is forced to watch Trump tell the world that his wife might have been cheating on him, with no evidence to support that suggestion.

Twitter needs to do something about this one.
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Old 26th May 2020, 08:44 AM   #325
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Also no other city even put in a bid to host the convention. What city is going to decide now to bid on it?
Maybe they need to get creative.

Is Jeffrey Epstein's island available? Or maybe they can hold it on Greenland (as part of the trump takeover plan).

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Old 26th May 2020, 08:55 AM   #326
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Is there someone in the Whitehouse who writes these? It's appropriately Trumpian stream of consciousness, but, (random capitals aside) correctly spelled and grammatically correct (including 'whom') so I can't believe his tiny fingers mashed it out.

Strange job, sitting there trying to think 'What would the president say if he was coherent enough?'
He just says it out loud and someone writes it down and tweets it for him.
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Old 26th May 2020, 09:13 AM   #327
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Originally Posted by dmaker View Post
Not only does this disgusting behavior by Trump tear open old wounds, but one of his earlier tweets added something like "...maybe an affair?"

Not only does her family have to relive the tragedy, her husband is forced to watch Trump tell the world that his wife might have been cheating on him, with no evidence to support that suggestion.

Twitter needs to do something about this one.
Her husband agrees.

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President Trump’s continued promotion of a baseless conspiracy theory about the 2001 death of former Joe Scarborough staffer Lori Klausutis has “perverted” her memory “for perceived political gain,” her husband, Timothy J. Klausutis, wrote in a letter to Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey. In the letter, Klausutis pleaded with Dorsey to delete Trump’s tweets.

“These conspiracy theorists, including most recently the President of the United States, continue to spread their bile and misinformation on your platform disparaging the memory of my wife and our marriage,” Klausutis wrote in a letter dated last week and published in a Kara Swisher column in the New York Times this week. “My request is simple: Please delete these tweets.”
A whackjob conspiracy theory is what the Coward-in-Chief is wasting his time with during a pandemic that has killed 100,000 Americans.
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Old 26th May 2020, 09:15 AM   #328
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Trump Tweets

For all of the political hacks out there, if I hadn’t done my job well, & early, we would have lost 1 1/2 to 2 Million People, as opposed to the 100,000 plus that looks like will be the number. That’s 15 to 20 times more than we will lose. I shut down entry from China very early!

....One person lost to this invisible virus is too much, it should have been stopped at its source, China, but I acted very quickly, and made the right decisions. Many of the current political complainers thought, at the time, that I was moving far to fast, like Crazy Nancy!
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Old 26th May 2020, 09:17 AM   #329
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

For all of the political hacks out there, if I hadn’t done my job well, & early, we would have lost 1 1/2 to 2 Million People, as opposed to the 100,000 plus that looks like will be the number. That’s 15 to 20 times more than we will lose. I shut down entry from China very early!

....One person lost to this invisible virus is too much, it should have been stopped at its source, China, but I acted very quickly, and made the right decisions. Many of the current political complainers thought, at the time, that I was moving far to fast, like Crazy Nancy!
Nah, he's not nuts.
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Donald Trump pledges to "take a strong look" at Libel Laws [nytimes]

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“We are going to take a strong look at our country’s libel laws, so that when somebody says something that is false and defamatory about someone, that person will have meaningful recourse in our courts,” Mr. Trump said during a public portion of a cabinet meeting in the White House.

The president added, “Our current libel laws are a sham and a disgrace and do not represent American values or American fairness.”
Of note, Jack Posebiec was one of the ghouls that harassed Seth Rich's family, and he's on the President's favorite TV network - One America News.
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Old 26th May 2020, 09:22 AM   #331
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Donald Trump pledges to "take a strong look" at Libel Laws [nytimes]



Of note, Jack Posebiec was one of the ghouls that harassed Seth Rich's family, and he's on the President's favorite TV network - One America News.
The jaw-dropping thing is that he is the person who libels the most people possible day in day out - if the libel laws were loosened up he'd be doing nothing but appearing in court for libeling people.
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Old 26th May 2020, 09:24 AM   #332
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The jaw-dropping thing is that he is the person who libels the most people possible day in day out - if the libel laws were loosened up he'd be doing nothing but appearing in court for libeling people.
That's if he loosened them in any fair sense. No, he wants to loosen the libel laws so that only he and his friends benefit.
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Old 26th May 2020, 09:37 AM   #333
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That's if he loosened them in any fair sense. No, he wants to loosen the libel laws so that only he and his friends benefit.
Oh, I'm sure he only wants to change them in a way that is fair to the Presinden-cyy. If he remembers that word, that is.
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Old 26th May 2020, 09:54 AM   #334
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The President already has absolute privilege to libel and defame people. No change needed.
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Old 26th May 2020, 10:52 AM   #335
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The author of that piece is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Doesn't have to be. We can make fun of the idiocy all we want and people with an agenda like CE will keep throwing crap like that all over the place.

If it can trick people, all the better, but it's more about reinforcing bias, distracting from reality, and muddying the waters.

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Lamb did not vote for Pelosi for speaker. That is a lie.
Shocking. Really, Trump's so honest that he's only been caught in more than 18,000 lies during his Presidency.
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Old 26th May 2020, 10:54 AM   #336
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The jaw-dropping thing is that he is the person who libels the most people possible day in day out - if the libel laws were loosened up he'd be doing nothing but appearing in court for libeling people.
Jaw dropping but in fact part of his standard operating procedure. Falsely accuse others of what you routinely do every day.

Well, at least we can be assured that all those conservatives who support freedom of speech, even by Nazis and KKK members, will speak up to oppose such a loosening... Given their dedication to the right of people to slur and demean others.

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I understand that according to a Supreme Court decision a sitting President is not subject to civil law actions (i.e. suits) arising from their official duties.

Does any poster here know if they can be sued for actions outside of their official duties? I thought they can be (i.e. if they ram their car into a pedestrian). Would liable by tweet fit within their official duties?

Can they be sued after they leave office for actions taken during their term?
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Trump Tweets

There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. Mail boxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged & even illegally printed out & fraudulently signed. The Governor of California is sending Ballots to millions of people, anyone.....

....living in the state, no matter who they are or how they got there, will get one. That will be followed up with professionals telling all of these people, many of whom have never even thought of voting before, how, and for whom, to vote. This will be a Rigged Election. No way!
This belongs in the Trump is mentally ill thread. He really is worried about losing.
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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
I understand that according to a Supreme Court decision a sitting President is not subject to civil law actions (i.e. suits) arising from their official duties.

Does any poster here know if they can be sued for actions outside of their official duties? I thought they can be (i.e. if they ram their car into a pedestrian). Would liable by tweet fit within their official duties?
Nope, No lawsuits. Trump's tweets have already been declared to be official WH policy some time ago.

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Can they be sued after they leave office for actions taken during their term?
No idea.
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Nope, No lawsuits. Trump's tweets have already been declared to be official WH policy some time ago.

No idea.
Though couldn't they then sue the white house if not trump personally for defamation of character and liable?
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I asked previously for our resident Trump supporters to defend these kind of tweets but...unsurprisingly...not a peep out of them. I think they know there is no excuse, no rational explanation for them other than Trump is a horrible and pathetic excuse for a man who will go to any length, no matter how vile, in the pursuit of being re-elected.

ETA: Twitter has denied his request to remove Trump's tweets about his wife even though they break Twitter's rule against 'targeted harassment'. Jeffrey Toobin, CNN chief legal analyst, suggests that the company is afraid of Trump and his ' right wing trolls'. He also says there really is no recourse for Mr. Klausutis in the courts.

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POTUS retweeted a criticism of Joe Biden wearing a mask. Why would he do that?
McENANY: It's a bit peculiar that he doesn't wear a mask in his basement, but he wears one outdoors
MASON: Isn't that the guidance though?
McENANY: It's recommended but not required
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Old 26th May 2020, 11:37 AM   #344
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Or.
President Trump is constitutionally incapable of that type of rational response.

(Just some speculation, I am not a medical professional trying to diagnose a mental disorder)


It's more than just speculation at this point. It's pretty clear that he cannot act in a sane and rational manner - even when he himself would benefit from it. This entire pandemic response has proven that beyond a reasonable doubt.

One theme that has been clear and consistent throughout this whole mess is Trump's desire to be seen as The Hero. The guy who rides in, gives the orders, solves the problems, saves the world, and receives the accolades of the masses for it.

And the sad part is, he could have actually done all that. He really could have - any one else in his position would have.

If, back in January, he'd just listened to the intelligence reports that warned him this was coming, he could have acted swiftly to limit the spread of the pandemic. If, back in February, he'd paid attention to the increasing numbers of infected in the US, and started pushing for limiting travel, and encouraging social distancing, he could have restricted the spread of the virus within the US. If, back in March, he'd taken the lead in coordinating the production of medical supplies, he could have limited the impact the virus had on hospitals and old age homes. If he had taken the lead on providing unemployment coverage for people put out of work, he could have avoided a lot of the economic damage. If he'd shown some leadership in squashing rumors and conspiracy theories, he would have significantly decreased the social unrest that we've seen. If he'd taken the lead on non-partisan steps to ensure the safety of the upcoming election, he would have restored at least some faith in the democratic institutions of the United States.

If he'd just done that - not even all of it, even just some of it - he really would have fixed the problems, and been the hero, and deserved the accolades, almost without reservation.

But he didn't do any of it. The only reasonable conclusion is that he couldn't do any of it. It's just not in him to take advice, and act in a selfless and charitable manner.
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I asked previously for our resident Trump supporters to defend these kind of tweets but...unsurprisingly...not a peep out of them. I think they know there is no excuse, no rational explanation for them other than Trump is a horrible and pathetic excuse for a man who will go to any length, no matter how vile, in the pursuit of being re-elected.

Or, maybe there aren’t many actual “Trump supporters.” Maybe that’s just a label you affix to people who disagree with your particular outlook.
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Or, maybe there aren’t many actual “Trump supporters.” Maybe that’s just a label you affix to people who disagree with your particular outlook.
How about voters then if merely directly supporting him in every measured way is a bit vague for you.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Todays Presser

POTUS retweeted a criticism of Joe Biden wearing a mask. Why would he do that?
McENANY: It's a bit peculiar that he doesn't wear a mask in his basement, but he wears one outdoors
MASON: Isn't that the guidance though?
McENANY: It's recommended but not required
Wow. The level of stupidity coming from Trump's cult is amazing.
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How about voters then if merely directly supporting him in every measured way is a bit vague for you.
He does have a point, though. Trumpanzees are a minority of the population, albeit the loudest.
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How about voters then if merely directly supporting him in every measured way is a bit vague for you.
Exactly. Anyone who plans to vote for Trump in November is a supporter.
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Though couldn't they then sue the white house if not trump personally for defamation of character and liable?
AFAIK, no, official pronouncements are exempt in the US and by declaring his twitter account an official outlet for government policy, the orange bastage is also exempt.

That is my understanding, but IANAL, so you should check with someone who is.
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He does have a point, though. Trumpanzees are a minority of the population, albeit the loudest.
The squeeky wheel gets the oil.
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Wow. The level of stupidity coming from Trump's cult is amazing.
I'm amazed you're amazed.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Todays Presser

POTUS retweeted a criticism of Joe Biden wearing a mask. Why would he do that?
McENANY: It's a bit peculiar that he doesn't wear a mask in his basement, but he wears one outdoors
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McENANY: It's recommended but not required
No, it isn't peculiar. Are you an idiot?
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I'm amazed you're amazed.


I think we've hit a watershed moment. Him and his mouthpieces have stopped pretending they're even trying to make sense, and we've stopped pretending we think they're trying to make sense.

Now it's all just noise to try to fire up enough voters to squeak through a win in November.
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“I will never apologize for supporting the issues that candidate Trump advocated, but I am deeply sorry for thinking that this shallow and broken man would show even some remote fealty to the promises that got him elected.”

Ann Coulter, May, 2020.

Ann has really turned on Trump, in a big way. I was surprised at the vitriol of her tweets, although vitriol and Ann kind of go together. For some more examples, see this article: https://www.mediaite.com/news/you-co...king-sessions/
She seems to be continuing her attacks...

From: Ann Coulter Doubles Down (Yahoo)
“At 4:30 in the morning Saturday night — well, technically, Sunday morning — I went on Twitter for the first time in a while and I saw this jackass tweet by our jackass president being a big baby blaming Jeff Sessions for the Russia investigation once again, something that was entirely, 100% his fault,” she explained to host Derek Hunter.

So bizarre... everyone knew Trump was disingenuous prior to the election (and if they didn't know it by then, they certainly knew it within a few months of him taking office.) Yet she seemed to support him, at times, and only really went after him over the whole Sessions thing.
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How brilliant are our FARMERS? Thank you @lgutwein99_31, real talent! #MAGA

(Video of TRUMP 2020 cut in to a field in link)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...08853954019330
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How brilliant are our FARMERS? Thank you @lgutwein99_31, real talent! #MAGA

(Video of TRUMP 2020 cut in to a field in link)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...08853954019330
His narcissism is on full display with this one.

LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME, EVERYONE! THIS GUY SEES HOW GREAT I AM!
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How brilliant are our FARMERS? Thank you @lgutwein99_31, real talent! #MAGA

(Video of TRUMP 2020 cut in to a field in link)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...08853954019330
His narcissism is on full display with this one.

LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME, EVERYONE! THIS GUY SEES HOW GREAT I AM!
Trumpian crop circles!!! Proof he is a reptilian alien!!!
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Trumpian crop circles!!! Proof he is a reptilian alien!!!
So you're saying reptilians have crossed the atmospheric boundary and stolen the President's job?
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Didn’t Obama, whose Administration has now been caught cold illegally spying on the Trump campaign, recently also get caught playing golf on a course in Virginia, despite his wife Michelle urging people to stay home, before and after his round, in a major public service message?...

....A total double standard. The only thing the Dems have going for them is their very close relationship with the Fake News Lamestream Media!
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