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Old 11th September 2019, 11:56 AM   #41
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I can't see why an astrologer couldn't create a horoscope that's based in the past. I mean, take a person unknown to the astrologer, give the date of birth and other requested details, then ask the astrologer to draw up the horoscope for a time that has already happened. Then one could check with the horoscopee to see if the predicted events actually happened.

Repeat a few times.
It's not double blinded, and it doesn't protect against simply playing the odds, if you know someone's date of birth you can make some pretty obvious statements that apply to almost everyone. Simply scoring them for hits is an invitation to this. By getting a group of people to score the horoscopes not knowing if it's theirs or not gives a control.
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Old 16th September 2019, 06:33 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer View Post
It's not double blinded, and it doesn't protect against simply playing the odds, if you know someone's date of birth you can make some pretty obvious statements that apply to almost everyone. Simply scoring them for hits is an invitation to this. By getting a group of people to score the horoscopes not knowing if it's theirs or not gives a control.
I was thinking more along the lines of things specific to the person for whom the astrologer was drawing up a chart. Car crashes, being arrested, friend's death - gruesome stuff like that.
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Old 16th September 2019, 06:42 PM   #43
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Echoing others: One has to know exactly what the astrologer claims he can do. Otherwise, you're not testing anything.

You could give me a test on trigonometry and I will fail it badly. But if my claim was "I'm a retired lawyer," I don't think your test would be very meaningful.
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Old 17th September 2019, 06:11 AM   #44
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I dimly recall a test run some years ago when the details of Timothy McVeigh were used.

You may remember that he was the Oklahoma City bomber.

Needless to say, the astrologers never got close with their replies.
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Old 17th September 2019, 07:34 AM   #45
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I saw a clip of Randi testing some financial astrologer vs. a real financial analyst. After 4 or 5 weeks the astrologer had lost quite a bit of money. I believe his excuse was that the astrology was fine but the failures were due to predictions he made "with his instinct."

So he basically admitted he was trying to cheat the system if the whole point was to test astrology in the first place.
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Old 17th September 2019, 07:35 AM   #46
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Echoing others: One has to know exactly what the astrologer claims he can do. Otherwise, you're not testing anything.

You could give me a test on trigonometry and I will fail it badly. But if my claim was "I'm a retired lawyer," I don't think your test would be very meaningful.
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While I appreciate the help, I still don't think I'd do very well on that test.
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