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Old Today, 09:04 AM   #1641
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Have they found the deep state? It exists in their minds, like the jfkjr conspiracy theories, in their minds.

Hard to remove the deep state, buried deep in the minds of a select few who know it to be true.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
If the rule of law is to survive, if America’s constitutional protections are to endure, it is essential to roll back the sinister secrecy that allows – indeed encourages – those operating in the Deep State to hold themselves above the law and beyond the Constitution.
Interesting hypothesis. Do you have some meeting notes, presentations, or money trail produced by this"Deep State"?
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If Trump gets to uncover all the secrets of the Deep State, it's only fair if the Deep State gets to uncover all the secrets of Donald Trump.
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I like Ike's parting admonition that we beware of the Congressional Military Industrial Complex

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"In the councils of government, we must guard against...etc"

Twas a shame he got talked into dropping 'congressional' before he went on live TV. Too close for comfort, I suppose.

That was the way it was back then.


Originally Posted by beachnut View Post
Have they found the deep state? It exists in their minds, like the jfkjr conspiracy theories, in their minds.

Hard to remove the deep state, buried deep in the minds of a select few who know it to be true.


Nowadays...

...in the unlikely event officials of a previous administration were found to have interfered or attempted to interfere with a presidential election, or the subsequent administration, that might qualify, as difficult to grasp as that may be.

Entirely hypothetical, of course
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I'm not convinced the deep state is worse than the current shallow one.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
I like Ike's parting admonition that we beware of the Congressional Military Industrial Complex

Twas a shame he got talked into dropping 'congressional' before he went on live TV. Too close for comfort, I suppose.

That was the way it was back then.

Nowadays...

...in the unlikely event officials of a previous administration were found to have interfered or attempted to interfere with a presidential election, or the subsequent administration, that might qualify, as difficult to grasp as that may be.

Entirely hypothetical, of course
Cherry picking to make up the deep state, which only exists in your mind. Cool

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In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. ike
You left out the Fact Eisenhower considered the military-industrial complex was needed as a deterrent to Soviet Union aggression against the United States and allies. IKE wanted the government to balance defense and diplomacy. “We must learn how to compose differences not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose.”

It is so easy to quote mine and cherry pick things to support conspiracy theories.
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