White House Survivor - Page 8

Trebuchet · 27th September 2017, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

Will Jared's days ever be numbered?

You misspelled (((Jared))). But less sarcastically, no, they probably won't.

Darth Rotor · 27th September 2017, 08:41 PM

Given that Jared made the same mistakes that someone did so recently argues that he's a slow learner. Not a good trait. In the office pool, though, he's even money to stay on as Trump's big acid test is personal loyalty. :P

phiwum · 27th September 2017, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

Given that Jared made the same mistakes that someone did so recently argues that he's a slow learner. Not a good trait. In the office pool, though, he's even money to stay on as Trump's big acid test is personal loyalty. :P

If you're referring to the email brouhaha, then Jared is one of six slow learners, none of whom will be sacked over this because Trump doesn't give a damn about this issue (despite how much time he spent on the horrors of Clinton's similar misstep).

The Don · 27th September 2017, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Who told him he should back Strange over Moore? That guy's a goner.

That never happened, as The President's recently updated Twitter feed shows

PhantomWolf · 28th September 2017, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by phiwum

If you're referring to the email brouhaha, then Jared is one of six slow learners, none of whom will be sacked over this because Trump doesn't give a damn about this issue (despite how much time he spent on the horrors of Clinton's similar misstep).

It's unlikely that he'd fire either Kushner or Ivanka since they are family. Priebus and Bannon are already gone. Cohn and Miller could be in trouble depending on how serious their breeches were and how much it embarasses Trump.

phiwum · 28th September 2017, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

It's unlikely that he'd fire either Kushner or Ivanka since they are family. Prebus and Bannon are already gone. Cohn and Miller could be in trouble depending on how serious their breeches were and how much it embarasses Trump.

There's no way Trump is going to let them go over an email flap. He conceivably could use the email issue as an excuse when he wants to let them go for other reasons, but then he'd have an issue because Kushner and Ivanka will certainly not be let go, despite the same sin.

ponderingturtle · 28th September 2017, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

Just another example of good Republican fiscal responsibility.

But how are people supposed to feel important if they have to fly commercial?

d4m10n · 28th September 2017, 08:52 AM

It is going to take a lot of private flights to compete with the fiscal profligacy going down at White House South.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/891020450935058434

TheL8Elvis · 29th September 2017, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Oh, that.

In normal times this would be a career-ending move but I don't really see Trump cracking down on overindulgence in taxpayer-funded perks, or corruption more generally.

Few things are the same as in "normal" times :-)

Doesn't look like this price thing is going away quickly, and wow he is unlikable.

I think someone could convince 45 that firing him would be good optics.

dudalb · 29th September 2017, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

McConnell? Could happen.

But it won't be Trump who does it;only the members of the Senate can do that..Trump cannot fire McConnell thus McConnell does not qualify for the White House Survivor game.

dudalb · 29th September 2017, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis

Few things are the same as in "normal" times :-)

Doesn't look like this price thing is going away quickly, and wow he is unlikable.

I think someone could convince 45 that firing him would be good optics.

This, and Trump had no close ties to Price.
And Price's job description makes him a prime scapegoat if the response to Hurricane Maria becomes a major issue.

Stacko · 29th September 2017, 01:40 PM

White House says HHS Secretary Tom Price has resigned

NoahFence · 29th September 2017, 02:06 PM

...and another one bites the dust

Kushner or DeVos next.

dudalb · 29th September 2017, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

...and another one bites the dust

Kushner or DeVos next.

Devos is safe;she paid for her charter flights out of her own pocket. I dislike her immensely,but will give her credit for that.

Stacko · 29th September 2017, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

...and another one bites the dust

Kushner or DeVos next.

My money's on Mnuchin, Pruitt or Zinke all of whom are consumed in somewhat lesser versions of the same scandal.

d4m10n · 29th September 2017, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

White House says HHS Secretary Tom Price has resigned

Kudos to everyone who had him in the pool.

Personally, I'm shocked to find that anyone in that political party can still be shamed.

Cain · 29th September 2017, 04:17 PM

Trump has staffed his White House and cabinet with the best people, so their replacements are by definition sub-optimal. This media witch-hunt is undermining efforts to drain the swamp.

Darth Rotor · 29th September 2017, 04:18 PM

At some point, my question from before Trump won the nom of the GOP will come up with greater gravity:

Who wants to work for this guy? Who will work for this guy? The first six month's carnage/turnover argues for "why would I bother" as a response to feelers from someone like Kelly contacting prospects.

Stacko · 29th September 2017, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Personally, I'm shocked to find that anyone in that political party can still be shamed.

It's weird to see a normal political scandal play out in the normal way. I mean why didn't he just defiantly stay on? That would fit better with what the Trump era has brought us to.

dudalb · 29th September 2017, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Rotor

At some point, my question from before Trump won the nom of the GOP will come up with greater gravity:

Who wants to work for this guy? Who will work for this guy? The first six month's carnage/turnover argues for "why would I bother" as a response to feelers from someone like Kelly contacting prospects.

It's the Red Wedding in GOT.....

dudalb · 29th September 2017, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

It's weird to see a normal political scandal play out in the normal way. I mean why didn't he just defiantly stay on? That would fit better with what the Trump era has brought us to.

I think he got the word that Trump was going to pull the trigger,and decided to resign to avoid that humiliation.
IMHO it was all about the optics. It was not so much what Price did, but that vioilated the 11th Commandment:Thou Shalt Not Get Caught.
But it is a nice scalp for Politico, which broke the story. I am pretty sure there are asking "How the hell did we miss this" at the WAPO.

Stacko · 29th September 2017, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I think he got the word that Trump was going to pull the trigger,and decided to resign to avoid that humiliation.
IMHO it was all about the optics. It was not so much what Price did, but that vioilated the 11th Commandment:Thou Shalt Not Get Caught.
But it is a nice scalp for Politico, which broke the story. I am pretty sure there are asking "How the hell did we miss this" at the WAPO.

Politico also broke the story the prevented Puzder from being appointed. But as their editor said:

someone just said "your reporters brought price down" I said no -- Tom PRice's poor judgment and costly travel brought him down

Skeptic Ginger · 29th September 2017, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Devos is safe;she paid for her charter flights out of her own pocket. I dislike her immensely,but will give her credit for that.

She owns the jet.

DeVos travels "on personally-owned aircraft"

Skeptic Ginger · 29th September 2017, 06:39 PM

Rachel Maddow had a long list of the people currently on survival island.

Last night's program is on the top playlist but hopefully there'll be a link to tonight's program soon. She listed a half dozen or more with the same abuse of power scandals.

Looks like the VA head has some explaining to do: VA chief took in Wimbledon, river cruise on European work trip; wife’s expenses covered by taxpayers.

I vote David Shulkin the next off the island.

The EPA administrator could be in trouble even though the National Review tried to clear him yesterday: The Scott Pruitt Non-Scandal.

That may not help: EPA inspector general launches probe of Scott Pruitt’s travel costs.

It's not just travel costs. That $25K cone of silence is certainly an eyebrow raiser.

The Don · 29th September 2017, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Kudos to everyone who had him in the pool.

Personally, I'm shocked to find that anyone in that political party can still be shamed.

Is this really only about the flights or is there some payback for the failed healthcare bills and he resigned before he was fired ?

nvm.....should have read on to dudalb's post

Craig4 · 1st October 2017, 04:56 PM

I think Tillerson will resign when he gets back from China. How can he not? Where's the way forward for him after this?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/01/politi...rea/index.html

Stacko · 4th October 2017, 03:57 AM

Tillerson seems like a good bet at this point.

Quote:

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was on the verge of resigning this past summer amid mounting policy disputes and clashes with the White House, according to multiple senior administration officials who were aware of the situation at the time.

The tensions came to a head around the time President Donald Trump delivered a politicized speech in late July to the Boy Scouts of America, an organization Tillerson once led, the officials said.

Just days earlier, Tillerson had openly disparaged the president, referring to him as a “moron,” after a July 20 meeting at the Pentagon with members of Trump’s national security team and Cabinet officials, according to three officials familiar with the incident.

TheL8Elvis · 4th October 2017, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

I think Tillerson will resign when he gets back from China. How can he not? Where's the way forward for him after this?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/01/politi...rea/index.html

Agreed. Trump has neutered him and rendered him useless.

The Don · 4th October 2017, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis

Agreed. Trump has neutered him and rendered him useless.

I guess that could be true for any senior member of the Trump Administration. The President seems to make up policy on the hoof which means that any deal that someone has been patiently working on is scuppered when President Trump makes a speech extolling the complete opposite position.

Toontown · 4th October 2017, 06:38 AM

It is now official. The secretary of state has confirmed that Trump is indeed a "moron".

Which comes as no great surprise. Putin did not select Trump to be our president because he admired Trump's intellect.

d4m10n · 4th October 2017, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Toontown

It is now official. The secretary of state has confirmed that Trump is indeed a "moron".

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ws_report.html

He won't be the first person fired for excessive truth-telling.

***ALL MY CHIPS ON TILLERSON***

Stacko · 4th October 2017, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ws_report.html

He won't be the first person fired for excessive truth-telling.

***ALL MY CHIPS ON TILLERSON***

Tillerson is making a statement at 10:40EDT from the Treaty Room. Topic unknown. We could be getting moron this story.

SOdhner · 4th October 2017, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

***ALL MY CHIPS ON TILLERSON***

Yeah, same here.

Originally Posted by Stacko

Tillerson is making a statement at 10:40EDT from the Treaty Room. Topic unknown. We could be getting moron this story.

I don't see anything yet, fingers crossed he goes off script and quits with some flare.

d4m10n · 4th October 2017, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Stacko

Tillerson is making a statement at 10:40EDT from the Treaty Room. Topic unknown. We could be getting moron this story.

NoahFence · 4th October 2017, 07:52 AM

Well the jerk store is running out of YOU!

....I hate when I want to make a joke that someone already made.

"Moron" this story.

NoahFence · 4th October 2017, 08:03 AM

Doggone it. He's just giving Trump a gobbie and praising Dear Leader.

TheL8Elvis · 4th October 2017, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ws_report.html

He won't be the first person fired for excessive truth-telling.

***ALL MY CHIPS ON TILLERSON***

Hmmm. Tillerson never considered leaving, and doesn't understand the media "misreporting" everything. Plays the "I'm not from Washington" card.

Honestly, IDK what's doing here.

Toontown · 4th October 2017, 08:09 AM

When directly asked if he called Trump a "moron", Tillerson refused to answer.

From this non-answer we can confidently conclude Tillerson did in fact call Trump a "moron".

We can also confidently conclude Tillerson is not ready to leave yet. We should probably be relieved that Tillerson and a couple of others are hanging around, keeping an eye on Putin's selection.

Stacko · 4th October 2017, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis

Hmmm. Tillerson never considered leaving, and doesn't understand the media "misreporting" everything. Plays the "I'm not from Washington" card.

Honestly, IDK what's doing here.

Has he denied calling Trump a moron yet?

TheL8Elvis · 4th October 2017, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by Toontown

When directly asked if he called Trump a "moron", Tillerson refused to answer.

From this non-answer we can confidently conclude Tillerson did in fact call Trump a "moron".

We can also confidently conclude Tillerson is not ready to leave yet.

It appears that way, but I would like more information on WHY.

ETA: I don't believe him when he makes noises like it's love of country, duty etc

27th September 2017, 05:39 PM	#281
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 30,556	Originally Posted by Stacko Will Jared's days ever be numbered? You misspelled (((Jared))). But less sarcastically, no, they probably won't.
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27th September 2017, 08:41 PM	#282
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 38,527	Given that Jared made the same mistakes that someone did so recently argues that he's a slow learner. Not a good trait. In the office pool, though, he's even money to stay on as Trump's big acid test is personal loyalty. :P
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28th September 2017, 03:48 AM	#285
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,083	Originally Posted by phiwum If you're referring to the email brouhaha, then Jared is one of six slow learners, none of whom will be sacked over this because Trump doesn't give a damn about this issue (despite how much time he spent on the horrors of Clinton's similar misstep). It's unlikely that he'd fire either Kushner or Ivanka since they are family. Priebus and Bannon are already gone. Cohn and Miller could be in trouble depending on how serious their breeches were and how much it embarasses Trump.
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28th September 2017, 04:16 AM	#287
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,121	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf Just another example of good Republican fiscal responsibility. But how are people supposed to feel important if they have to fly commercial?
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28th September 2017, 08:52 AM	#288
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,057	It is going to take a lot of private flights to compete with the fiscal profligacy going down at White House South. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/891020450935058434
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27th September 2017, 11:15 PM	#283
phiwum Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 12,714	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor Given that Jared made the same mistakes that someone did so recently argues that he's a slow learner. Not a good trait. In the office pool, though, he's even money to stay on as Trump's big acid test is personal loyalty. :P If you're referring to the email brouhaha, then Jared is one of six slow learners, none of whom will be sacked over this because Trump doesn't give a damn about this issue (despite how much time he spent on the horrors of Clinton's similar misstep).

27th September 2017, 11:30 PM	#284
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 30,943	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Who told him he should back Strange over Moore? That guy's a goner. That never happened, as The President's recently updated Twitter feed shows

28th September 2017, 03:51 AM	#286
phiwum Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 12,714	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf It's unlikely that he'd fire either Kushner or Ivanka since they are family. Prebus and Bannon are already gone. Cohn and Miller could be in trouble depending on how serious their breeches were and how much it embarasses Trump. There's no way Trump is going to let them go over an email flap. He conceivably could use the email issue as an excuse when he wants to let them go for other reasons, but then he'd have an issue because Kushner and Ivanka will certainly not be let go, despite the same sin.

29th September 2017, 08:26 AM	#289
TheL8Elvis Philosopher Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8,276	Originally Posted by d4m10n Oh, that. In normal times this would be a career-ending move but I don't really see Trump cracking down on overindulgence in taxpayer-funded perks, or corruption more generally. Few things are the same as in "normal" times :-) Doesn't look like this price thing is going away quickly, and wow he is unlikable. I think someone could convince 45 that firing him would be good optics.
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29th September 2017, 12:45 PM	#290
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,832	Originally Posted by Stacko McConnell? Could happen. But it won't be Trump who does it;only the members of the Senate can do that..Trump cannot fire McConnell thus McConnell does not qualify for the White House Survivor game.
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29th September 2017, 12:47 PM	#291
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,832	Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis Few things are the same as in "normal" times :-) Doesn't look like this price thing is going away quickly, and wow he is unlikable. I think someone could convince 45 that firing him would be good optics. This, and Trump had no close ties to Price. And Price's job description makes him a prime scapegoat if the response to Hurricane Maria becomes a major issue.
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29th September 2017, 01:40 PM	#292
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	White House says HHS Secretary Tom Price has resigned

29th September 2017, 02:06 PM	#293
NoahFence Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 22,131	...and another one bites the dust Kushner or DeVos next.

29th September 2017, 02:15 PM	#294
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,832	Originally Posted by NoahFence ...and another one bites the dust Kushner or DeVos next. Devos is safe;she paid for her charter flights out of her own pocket. I dislike her immensely,but will give her credit for that.
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29th September 2017, 02:23 PM	#295
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	Originally Posted by NoahFence ...and another one bites the dust Kushner or DeVos next. My money's on Mnuchin, Pruitt or Zinke all of whom are consumed in somewhat lesser versions of the same scandal.

29th September 2017, 04:09 PM	#296
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,057	Originally Posted by Stacko White House says HHS Secretary Tom Price has resigned Kudos to everyone who had him in the pool. Personally, I'm shocked to find that anyone in that political party can still be shamed.
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29th September 2017, 04:17 PM	#297
Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,202	Trump has staffed his White House and cabinet with the best people, so their replacements are by definition sub-optimal. This media witch-hunt is undermining efforts to drain the swamp.
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29th September 2017, 04:18 PM	#298
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 38,527	At some point, my question from before Trump won the nom of the GOP will come up with greater gravity: Who wants to work for this guy? Who will work for this guy? The first six month's carnage/turnover argues for "why would I bother" as a response to feelers from someone like Kelly contacting prospects.
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29th September 2017, 04:23 PM	#299
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	Originally Posted by d4m10n Personally, I'm shocked to find that anyone in that political party can still be shamed. It's weird to see a normal political scandal play out in the normal way. I mean why didn't he just defiantly stay on? That would fit better with what the Trump era has brought us to.

29th September 2017, 04:36 PM	#300
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,832	Originally Posted by Darth Rotor At some point, my question from before Trump won the nom of the GOP will come up with greater gravity: Who wants to work for this guy? Who will work for this guy? The first six month's carnage/turnover argues for "why would I bother" as a response to feelers from someone like Kelly contacting prospects. It's the Red Wedding in GOT.....
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29th September 2017, 04:40 PM	#301
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,832	Originally Posted by Stacko It's weird to see a normal political scandal play out in the normal way. I mean why didn't he just defiantly stay on? That would fit better with what the Trump era has brought us to. I think he got the word that Trump was going to pull the trigger,and decided to resign to avoid that humiliation. IMHO it was all about the optics. It was not so much what Price did, but that vioilated the 11th Commandment:Thou Shalt Not Get Caught. But it is a nice scalp for Politico, which broke the story. I am pretty sure there are asking "How the hell did we miss this" at the WAPO.
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29th September 2017, 04:44 PM	#302
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	Originally Posted by dudalb I think he got the word that Trump was going to pull the trigger,and decided to resign to avoid that humiliation. IMHO it was all about the optics. It was not so much what Price did, but that vioilated the 11th Commandment:Thou Shalt Not Get Caught. But it is a nice scalp for Politico, which broke the story. I am pretty sure there are asking "How the hell did we miss this" at the WAPO. Politico also broke the story the prevented Puzder from being appointed. But as their editor said: someone just said "your reporters brought price down" I said no -- Tom PRice's poor judgment and costly travel brought him down

29th September 2017, 06:23 PM	#303
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 85,657	Originally Posted by dudalb Devos is safe;she paid for her charter flights out of her own pocket. I dislike her immensely,but will give her credit for that. She owns the jet. DeVos travels "on personally-owned aircraft"

29th September 2017, 06:39 PM	#304
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 85,657	Rachel Maddow had a long list of the people currently on survival island. Last night's program is on the top playlist but hopefully there'll be a link to tonight's program soon. She listed a half dozen or more with the same abuse of power scandals. Looks like the VA head has some explaining to do: VA chief took in Wimbledon, river cruise on European work trip; wife’s expenses covered by taxpayers. I vote David Shulkin the next off the island. The EPA administrator could be in trouble even though the National Review tried to clear him yesterday: The Scott Pruitt Non-Scandal. That may not help: EPA inspector general launches probe of Scott Pruitt’s travel costs. It's not just travel costs. That $25K cone of silence is certainly an eyebrow raiser.

29th September 2017, 11:25 PM	#305
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 30,943	Originally Posted by d4m10n Kudos to everyone who had him in the pool. Personally, I'm shocked to find that anyone in that political party can still be shamed. Is this really only about the flights or is there some payback for the failed healthcare bills and he resigned before he was fired ? nvm.....should have read on to dudalb's post
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1st October 2017, 04:56 PM	#306
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State. Posts: 22,275	I think Tillerson will resign when he gets back from China. How can he not? Where's the way forward for him after this? http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/01/politi...rea/index.html

4th October 2017, 03:57 AM	#307
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	Tillerson seems like a good bet at this point. Quote: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was on the verge of resigning this past summer amid mounting policy disputes and clashes with the White House, according to multiple senior administration officials who were aware of the situation at the time. The tensions came to a head around the time President Donald Trump delivered a politicized speech in late July to the Boy Scouts of America, an organization Tillerson once led, the officials said. Just days earlier, Tillerson had openly disparaged the president, referring to him as a “moron,” after a July 20 meeting at the Pentagon with members of Trump’s national security team and Cabinet officials, according to three officials familiar with the incident.

4th October 2017, 06:19 AM	#308
TheL8Elvis Philosopher Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8,276	Originally Posted by Craig4 I think Tillerson will resign when he gets back from China. How can he not? Where's the way forward for him after this? http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/01/politi...rea/index.html Agreed. Trump has neutered him and rendered him useless.
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4th October 2017, 06:34 AM	#309
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 30,943	Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis Agreed. Trump has neutered him and rendered him useless. I guess that could be true for any senior member of the Trump Administration. The President seems to make up policy on the hoof which means that any deal that someone has been patiently working on is scuppered when President Trump makes a speech extolling the complete opposite position.

4th October 2017, 06:38 AM	#310
Toontown Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 6,595	It is now official. The secretary of state has confirmed that Trump is indeed a "moron". Which comes as no great surprise. Putin did not select Trump to be our president because he admired Trump's intellect.
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4th October 2017, 07:38 AM	#311
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,057	Originally Posted by Toontown It is now official. The secretary of state has confirmed that Trump is indeed a "moron". http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ws_report.html He won't be the first person fired for excessive truth-telling. *ALL MY CHIPS ON TILLERSON*
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4th October 2017, 07:45 AM	#312
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	Originally Posted by d4m10n http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ws_report.html He won't be the first person fired for excessive truth-telling. *ALL MY CHIPS ON TILLERSON* Tillerson is making a statement at 10:40EDT from the Treaty Room. Topic unknown. We could be getting moron this story.

4th October 2017, 07:49 AM	#313
SOdhner Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,744	Originally Posted by d4m10n *ALL MY CHIPS ON TILLERSON* Yeah, same here. Originally Posted by Stacko Tillerson is making a statement at 10:40EDT from the Treaty Room. Topic unknown. We could be getting moron this story. I don't see anything yet, fingers crossed he goes off script and quits with some flare.

4th October 2017, 07:50 AM	#314
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,057	Originally Posted by Stacko Tillerson is making a statement at 10:40EDT from the Treaty Room. Topic unknown. We could be getting moron this story.
	__________________ "Well, a statement like that is all the better for proof, but go on, anyway." - Salvor Hardin

4th October 2017, 07:52 AM	#315
NoahFence Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 22,131	Well the jerk store is running out of YOU! ....I hate when I want to make a joke that someone already made. "Moron" this story.