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1st May 2012, 02:34 PM | #1 |
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Gay Romney aide forced out
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The GOP is again showing the world how tolerant they are;
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C'mon, Richard. What were you thinking?
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Hiring gay people means you hate families. ETA: Just allowing a gay man to call himself a republican is the RNC telling the pro-family community to drop dead. |
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i read this a few minutes ago, but it looks like the story was pulled after a bunch of comments were posted comparing Grenell to jewish guards in nazi concentration camps
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1st May 2012, 03:12 PM | #6 |
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Tu quoque much?
And so much of a miss, too! You find a few jerks posting comments and suddenly its the whole "left" but somehow it's OK that a presidential candidate (or the people he is beholding to in his party and who apparently are calling the shots, your choice) discriminates against gay people. |
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There were a number of other issues, but I dan't say how large they were.
Romney's response didn't address the issue at all, and the LCR was just as impotent as usual:
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1st May 2012, 04:23 PM | #9 |
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Of course they will try to paint it as having NOTHING to do with his being gay and out.
(Gay and closeted? Many in Congress like that.) But that is the elephant in the corner. |
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It also shows Mitt Romney's political cowardice. Not that I expected any better from him, but his pandering to bigots is disgusting.
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Actually, no. Whatever "broader" support he would have gained (and it wouldn't be much, because most moderates would just take it as another example of his hypocrisy) it would have been offset by the gay-hater vote, a significant part of the Republican base, who would drop him like a hot potato if he had allowed Grennell to stay.
I can't really blame him. He has to play to his base. The (political) mistake was in hiring him in the first place. |
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Wait, you're saying that Romney doesn't have the courage of his convictions? The man is a model of consistency!
All kidding aside, this sucks. I think the guy is a raving wingnut, but being forced out because of his sexual orientation is stupid. And there are a small, but growing handful of scalps from the Obama administration who have been collected as well because of manufactured outrages. It's a bad trend. But come to think of it, both Obama's people and Grenell were forced out by the loony right, so they could go drink a beer together and commiserate. |
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By the way, it should be noted that Grenell is a John Bolton retread. Mitt Romney, Mr. Etch-A-Sketch, is getting his foreign policy advice from the John Bolton wing of the GOP. Just food for thought for those who think that Romney would somehow govern as a moderate. He's busy surrounding himself with far right advisors and advocating far right policies. I think people are deluding themselves if they think a guy who hires this kind of Neocon isn't going to govern just like George Bush did.
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You assume that Romney forced him out? Why? I tend to think that Grenell didn't want to become the story. The linked article at NPR notes this official statement from the campaign:
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It would suck to be a gay republican. I get that there is strong religious opposition but there seems so little backbone from the leaders to stand by gay and lesbian Republicans. And let's be clear, there are a lot of gay and lesbian Republicans. There really are. Being gay doesn't change ones principles. I have a number of friends who are gay and Republican. I think it is tragic that the party has largely turned their backs on them for superstition and an ancient book of fairy tales.
People like Ted Olson give me some reason for hope. |
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Not me. I don't assume that for a second. I actually think Romney is a moderate who is forced to kowtow to the far right in order to have any chance at winning the election. I strongly suspect that it was one of his handlers who whispered into his ear, "Ix-nay on the Eers-Quay". And of course, Grenell understood. You can't work that closely with the far right without developing a sense of when to scuttle the jetsam.
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Mitt Romney's Sexist Spokesman is Forced to Resign Because He's Gay
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Oh sorry. I looked around. Jumps to there.
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Well he's done and blown it. That's going to be pedaled as a lack of foresight. It also goes to show how being gay isn't this badge of liberal honor. Just like the Christian Fundies that come out of the closet, or get forced out.
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Um never mind. I've caused enough confusion tonight. Doesn't mean what you seem to think it does, rest assured.
Has more to do with the article I was using. http://jezebel.com/5906841/mitt-romn...ecause-hes-gay |
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"Gay Romney aide forced out"
And here I'd been thinking Santorum leaving the race would see the end of all icky double-entendres. |
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And the far right continues to demonstrate why history will look on them as reprehensible monsters not worthy of the oxygen they wasted in the slime filled cavern a brain usually resided in.
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If Romney's that foolish, then he deserves to lose, because the far right is going to vote for him in droves in November. And as always, the election is going to be won in the center, where there are votes for the taking, and which count as 2 for 1 (because a Romney vote won in the center is one that Obama doesn't get, while one lost on the wing isn't going to Obama.
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I don't think that's necessarily true. I think a lot of the far-right may sit out this election, and the closer to the center he moves, the more that will sit out. The bitter primary battle really hurt Romney, and even if Santorum, Gingrich, Perry et. al. get on the bandwagon, they still can't unsay the things they said. Heck, Obama is using Gingrich video clips in his ads.
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See, here's what I don't get. I honestly believe that you're disgusted by this...But every time you pull the lever for the GOP, or send them a campaign contribution, you do nothing to dissuade them from pandering to bigots. In fact, you merely encourage it because they see it as more beneficial than harmful.
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Cleon,
The shift to the Right in the Democratic party is BECAUSE the moderate Republicans have started to move. |
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No way. You cannot imagine how much they hate Obama. It's beyond passionate; it's unreasonable. I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 and won't vote for him this year, but I am amazed at how he has united conservatives in determination to vote him out. Romney has plenty of room to run to the center, and as I pointed out before, every vote there counts double compared to the votes on the wing.
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