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Old 6th April 2021, 11:47 PM   #281
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
More like he realized what he was saying after he said it and tried to mitigate the damage.
That's more of a Dolt 45 mistake. Moscow Mitch knows exactly what he said - he's threatening to retaliate unless companies go back to the usual relationship, where they pay money, let the GOP take over, and get their profits and prewritten laws approved. Publicly denouncing a needed law like voter suppression is breaking the code - failing to uphold the *actual* "Outrage Industrial complex."

it's always projection.

But what there isn't, here, is a mistake or any confusion, it's just Mitch at his worst - no need for deception, as he's likely to retire anyway, and would be voted back in if he were younger and chose to stay. No need to consider the common good, ha's shown no interest in that since becoming a senate leader, and his big punishment was a disastrous president in the white house who nonetheless gave him what he wanted. And he's no master legislator - he's filibustered a bill he himself introduced in the past, and can barely pass a yearly budget. He's really not even machiavellian, as he's not much of a schemer. He just straight up wrecks democracy to help himself and his pals, and does it openly.

Remember that this is the same guy who showed up at a meeting with coal miners from his own state whose pensions were raided, told them to go pound sand to their faces, and then left in under a minute.

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Old 7th April 2021, 02:51 PM   #282
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
If "Basic human decency and minimal standards" is political then sure....

But again "apolitical" is just one of those things... I don't know how it is supposed to work in a post-facts world.
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Giving free water to people who are already there to vote doesn't seem to really encourage them to vote, unless water represents Democrats.
You guys are dancing around the truth: caring about your fellow citizens is a political position, it is very much a Democratic thing.

Almost all of current GOP policy is based on the "rugged individual" mythos of America. The Dems are the only party that cares if you pulled too hard and broke your bootstraps.
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Old 7th April 2021, 03:19 PM   #283
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Remember that this is the same guy who showed up at a meeting with coal miners from his own state whose pensions were raided, told them to go pound sand to their faces, and then left in under a minute.
Not that I want to defend the guy but didn't he turn around on that issue?
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Old 8th April 2021, 05:32 PM   #284
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
McConnell calls the actions of MLB, Coke, andDelta in opposition of Georgia voting law ‘stupid.’
He says "My warning to corporate America is to stay out of politics,"

He added "I’m not talking about political contributions"


In other words "I am against all of these things, except for the things that benefit me."

Classic dirtbag.
I think that if I was a CEO of a major company with Georgia connections I might be making an announcement that since McConnell wants us to keep out of Politics other than contributions that we'd decided that all our contributions for 2022 would be going to Democrats.
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Old 9th April 2021, 07:53 AM   #285
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I think that if I was a CEO of a major company with Georgia connections I might be making an announcement that since McConnell wants us to keep out of Politics other than contributions that we'd decided that all our contributions for 2022 would be going to Democrats.
If I was the CEO of Delta, I'd show up to a really long line at an Atlanta polling station with a box of pizza and a news crew and start handing it out. It would be a great way to tell Kemp to bite me.
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If I was the CEO of Delta, I'd show up to a really long line at an Atlanta polling station with a box of pizza and a news crew and start handing it out. It would be a great way to tell Kemp to bite me.
I was thinking of Coke trucks lining up at polling places so that the CEO and other corporate leaders can hand out refreshments to anyone waiting in line.

The GOP may want to consider how they are creating these photo-ops.
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I was thinking of Coke trucks lining up at polling places so that the CEO and other corporate leaders can hand out refreshments to anyone waiting in line.

The GOP may want to consider how they are creating these photo-ops.
The GOP does not care about it's image to anybody but it's base
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Old 9th April 2021, 04:48 PM   #288
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
I was thinking of Coke trucks lining up at polling places so that the CEO and other corporate leaders can hand out refreshments to anyone waiting in line.

The GOP may want to consider how they are creating these photo-ops.
The Coke trucks could probably accomplish this not only conspicuously but legally, if they set up the refreshments as self-service. Put up a sign that says "pick up your free Coke here" would appear to be legal as long as nobody is seen to be providing it. Or something like that. I am betting that if they wanted they could hire some of their undoubtedly huge team of hotshot lawyers to set up an occasion that would combine spitting in the face of the authorities with a dare they'd be fools to accept.
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Maybe if the GOP thinks all this voter cheating went on, why don't they try to cheat themselves?

Call their bluff.
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Old 12th April 2021, 09:47 AM   #290
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Maybe if the GOP thinks all this voter cheating went on, why don't they try to cheat themselves?
Too much integrity.
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Too much integrity.
I almost choked reading that.
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I almost choked reading that.
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It's worth pointing out that GOP voters, and particularly Fox News watchers, are badly informed - it's common for them to insist that there's more racial discrimination in the US against white people than against black people, for example. . . .
I didn't catch that in the article. One graph said 45.4% of Repubs thought blacks experience a lot of discrimination, but 25.3% of Repubs thought whites did. Now, that 25.3% number is absurd, but those Repubs still think blacks experience more discrimination than whites.
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The Coke trucks could probably accomplish this not only conspicuously but legally, if they set up the refreshments as self-service. Put up a sign that says "pick up your free Coke here" would appear to be legal as long as nobody is seen to be providing it. Or something like that. I am betting that if they wanted they could hire some of their undoubtedly huge team of hotshot lawyers to set up an occasion that would combine spitting in the face of the authorities with a dare they'd be fools to accept.
The Georgia law does provide for self-service like that, but it's specified that it is *water* that can be provided via self-service.

But Coke surely produces bottled water, don't they, so they could do that and still push the brand name.
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The Coke trucks could probably accomplish this not only conspicuously but legally, if they set up the refreshments as self-service. Put up a sign that says "pick up your free Coke here" would appear to be legal as long as nobody is seen to be providing it. Or something like that. I am betting that if they wanted they could hire some of their undoubtedly huge team of hotshot lawyers to set up an occasion that would combine spitting in the face of the authorities with a dare they'd be fools to accept.
That accomplishes the refreshment, but not the photo op. Have the CEO and upper management out there handing out the refreshment (not staff) so that the cops have to arrest the higher ups and they can get the photos taken of the coke CFO being put in the back of a police car for handing out Dasani Bottled Water to people waiting in GOP created voting lines.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
That accomplishes the refreshment, but not the photo op. Have the CEO and upper management out there handing out the refreshment (not staff) so that the cops have to arrest the higher ups and they can get the photos taken of the coke CFO being put in the back of a police car for handing out Dasani Bottled Water to people waiting in GOP created voting lines.
That is a fine idea as long as the cops don't find a way to make the transaction itself illegal and take the voters out too. Remember that if the object is to **** up an election, they don't have to win the case. Hold the victims until the polls close, and drop the charges.
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That accomplishes the refreshment, but not the photo op. Have the CEO and upper management out there handing out the refreshment (not staff) so that the cops have to arrest the higher ups and they can get the photos taken of the coke CFO being put in the back of a police car for handing out Dasani Bottled Water to people waiting in GOP created voting lines.
Have Coke handed out by the Georgia Bulldogs football team. Are the cops going to arrest the whole Bulldogs team for handing out Coca-Cola in Atlanta when they are well on their way to the Peach Bowl?
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The no water rule is just screaming for acts of civil disobdience.
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Now Marvel Studios talking about moving production out of Georgia.OUch.That would hurt since Marvel Studios has been one of Georgis's big sucess stories in recent years.
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The no water rule is just screaming for acts of civil disobdience.
I quite agree, as long as there's a way to keep the police from going into a savage rage and murdering people, or arresting whole lines of voters on bogus charges.

The civil disobedience would have to be big enough to make a stolen election so obviously invalid that it would have to be done again. I have no faith in the authorities in Georgia meeting civil disobedience with civil behavior.
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Don't really see an issue. Seems logical. You can still provide self-server water station. You can still sell water. You just can't give it for free. Why would you even do it ?
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Don't really see an issue. Seems logical. You can still provide self-server water station. You can still sell water. You just can't give it for free. Why would you even do it ?
The Georgia law says that it is a "poll officer" who is allowed to set up a self-service water station.

Selling water would seem to be OK, but I'm sure a court would weigh in one way or the other.

1872 "(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any
1873 person distribute or display any campaign material,nor shallany person give, offer to give,
1874 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and
1875 drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any
1876 person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables
1877 or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:
1878 (1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is
1879 established;
1880 (2) Within any polling place; or
(3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.
1881
1882 These restrictions shall not apply to conduct occurring in private offices or areas which
1883 cannot be seen or heard by such electors."
1884 "(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1885 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1886 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1887 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from
1888 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1889 line to vote."
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