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22nd April 2018, 09:10 AM | #2081 |
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Nope, the schizophrenia is simply yours and an evident result of your asserted prejudice. In general relativity the Newtonian force of gravity is an inertial or fictitious force. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_force Your prejudice not only precedes you but evidently also precludes you form examining information you have already been given multiple times. |
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Argument by insulting Einstein as if that supports his elastic space fantasies
23 April 2018 Bjarne: Argument by insulting Einstein as if that supports his elastic space fantasies.
20 April 2018 Bjarne: The insanity that Hans Christian Andersen could have written Einstein's 1905 paper [or insulting Einstein as a fairy story writer] Einstein and many other experts have ignored any concept of "elastic space" as a source of gravity. There are reasons that everyone ignores his "elastic space" for almost 9 years now . Is Bended Space = Contracted Space ? 13th October 2009) and the answer is no. |
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Repeats his lie about the history of relativity
23 April 2018 Bjarne: Repeats his lie about the history of relativity.
19 April 2018 Bjarne: Einstein's 26 September 1905 paper did not try to explain math that did not exist until after it was published !
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A "prejudice" lie followed by the usual ignorance and fantasies
23 April 2018 Bjarne: A "prejudice" lie followed by the usual ignorance and fantasies.
The other people in this thread know about SR and GR. We know about the over 100 years of study of SR and GR that gives them a solid basis in theory. We know about the massive amount of experimental confirmation of SR and GR. We read your posts in this thread and see only ignorant fantasies with a few equation pulled out of thin air that depend on a result from SR (the Lorentz transformation) that you say is wrong ! This is easy to understand. If SR is wrong then everything derived from it is wrong which includes the Lorentz transformation. On the other hand we have 20 March 2018: At least 8 lies of his theory having predictions. 23 April 2018 Bjarne: A lie that curvature of spacetime is not connected to matter. Anyone who can read knows that matter and energy cause curvature of spacetime in an explicitly defined manner - Einstein field equations. |
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Carefully amigo, time will judge the dummy one.
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Matter = absorbed space + energy, - nothing else. - That energy (matter) can increases,- decrease or be completely released, - >> to space, - and therefore like the bolly in the soup , the absolute energy is the cause of change of mass/ gravity / background gravity / time / rulers / distances . This explains everything. So the so-called curvature of space is no longer necessary.
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23rd April 2018, 02:22 AM | #2087 |
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Its simple, within 1 year +/- holidays and bla bla bla, - you will see the theory of relativity fall. - The Newtonian gravity will survive and this is all what is left,
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Read this, In Denmark all children learn this is the kindergarten
Copy / paste You would be better off studying General Relativity. Lorentz transformations can be very confusing, because they are ONLY to be used to translate coordinates from one inertial frame to another inertial frame. They do not explain "why". An understand of why it is the way it is, comes from understanding GR. SR just tells you how to do math to get the right answer. It doesn't offer any explanation. https://www.researchgate.net/post/Ei...the_derivation Soon the will learn the new theory of relativity as well. They will be the first to understand it |
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The curvature of spacetime in general relativity is no more abstract than the curvature of the earth's surface.
For hundreds of years, navigators have been taking the curvature of the earth's surface into account. For two decades, the Global Positioning System has been taking the curvature of spacetime into account. Those of us who understand curvature also understand why navigators who refuse to take curvature into account will fall off course. |
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If you really think that Newtonian physics is still valid, please explain how Newtonian physics describe the orbit of Mercury.
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I am neither your "amigo" nor subject to your projected fears.
No one claimed your problem with, and misrepresentation of, the history of physics was a problem with "The MTR theory". Wait so there is "no reason to change anything or to add anything else..." yet you need to add "the ruler is a variant." and "the elastic property of space"? Can't you even just agree with yourself on one simple assertion? Ah, so there would be no "stretching or contracting" external to space. Well since no one is talking about "stretching or contracting" external to space your "within it self" assertion is moot. Such changes would be evident outside the soup. Again the units don't work, so the asserted relation is not valid just on a simple dimensional analysis. Remember you said you can't calculate your total energy. So you have no basis to claim that energy "can increases,- decrease or be completely released". Great so you should be able to show how your space stretches in one dimension while not curving in the other two. Evidently failing that you now apparently just want to switch from elastic space stretching to space getting thicker and thinness based on some energy it contains. Excellent now show the relation of "the bolly in your" space to the energy in that space. Changing your tune (from stretching space to some kind of space 'thickness') won't change ours. You still have to support your claims and make them at least self consistent. No you don't get to simply pretend other theories have anything to do with your notions. Even if they too require curvature. No, not Abstract, physical. A curved physical space has physical consequences. Just as a stretched or thickened space would. Those consequences are physical and not abstract. There is virtually nothing but contradiction in your post quoted here. Heck you're even changing from a elastic stretched space to some thickened or density variable space. Yes we know you have no problem trying to steal concepts you don't understand and simply have some prejudice for curved space which you evidently also don't understand. There is no theory just a bunch of self-inconstant assertions, misunderstandings of physics and the history of physics as well as mathematics. All apparently driven by some overriding disdain for curved space. Yes, we have read all that. Heck you just tried to change your fundamental notion from stretched elastic space to "space-density" rather than permit curvature to be a part of it. Well guess what a localized change in "space-density" due to "stretched elastic space" still requires the same curvature in the other dimensions. As I noted some time before elastic properties are well understood in mechanics. Heck, even the "nuclear spins, works like small tornadoes," stuff you want to abscond with require curvature. Apparently no matter how much you want to get away from curvature of space your own assertions still require it. |
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If you knew how to calculate Mercury’s orbit without referencing Relativity you’d have done so by now. You can drop the pretext. We all know you’re shooting blanks Bjarne. You’re waving around an exceptionally dull butter knife while insisting it’s a katana and screaming, “There can be only one!” I’d suggest you deliver something other than insults to challenge Relativity, but your post history proves you can’t deliver. You’ve left us all unsatisfied. We came her expecting girthy arguments we’d struggle to handle, ideas we’d gag on while trying to get a grip on them. What you’ve repeatedly delivered is a wet noodle. You’re playing pool with a floppy rope instead of a cue. |
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The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017 - Part II
To summarize the thread so far:
For a number of years Bjarne has been asserting that relatively will collapse as a theory. To date, the only evidence he has offered has been a link to a PDF of a paper that is incomplete and does not address his core claims. He was also the author of said paper. He has admitted he has no relevant scientific credentials and appears proud of this. He has indirectly admitted to being a flat Earther. A few “back of the envelope” calculations have shown the rate at which he claims the Earth is accelerating to be consistent with a Biblical young earth creationist model. He has demonstrated absolutely no comprehension of anything associated with Relativity. He insults anyone who tries to respond to his ignorance constructively. He insists the math to prove his ideas is “easy” yet refuses to do any of it himself. He appears to consider “Lorenz” to be a magical incantation to dispel counter arguments. He has demonstrated no comprehension of any of the science associated with the name. He uses it in a manner not dissimilar from the way Hogwarts students invoke Latin. Relativity remains a firmly entrenched theory with no real challenges on the horizon, or at least none discussed in a thread associated with Bjarne. |
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I'm new to this forum so I'm really surprised by this thread. Shouldn't it be moved to the humour or satire section?
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"As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose -- that it may violate property instead of protecting it -- then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting at the door of the Legislative Palace, and the struggle within will be no less furious." - Bastiat, The Law |
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Emphasizes his lie with a "Einstein`s derivation of Lorentz transformation" link
In every part of the world, all children learn this in the kindergarten: 1905 happened before 1906 !
Einstein's 1905 paper was before the independent publishing of the Lorentz transformation in 1906 by Poincare. 24 April 2018 Bjarne: Emphasizes his relativity history lie with a "Einstein's derivation of Lorentz transformation" link! This is a question that implies that Bjarne is lying about the Lorentz transformation existing before Einstein's 1905 paper. But anyone who can read already knows that. 24 April 2018 Bjarne: Idiotic highlighting of "They do not explain "why"." text from a Lorentz transformation question. 24 April 2018 Bjarne: Idiotic quoting of an ignorant crank "answering" a Lorentz transformation question. This is an independent "researcher" with a stupid PDF where an electromagnetic "zero-point field" causes gravity. 23 April 2018 Bjarne: Repeats his lie about the history of relativity. 19 April 2018 Bjarne: Einstein's 26 September 1905 paper did not try to explain math that did not exist until after it was published ! |
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Rubbish, its like you say without relativity the satellite would not be in orbit and everything is perfect
Its NOT, the flyby anomalies already clearly demonstrate that this theory is rubbish R U B B I S H As pointed oust many times, - the more orbits inclination are aligned with the Dark Flow Axis, as for example Near Shoemaker was, the more you will see unexpected anomalies. So be ready the Galileo and ISS test is a bucket of ice cold water waiting for this schizophrenic aspect of science. This theory of relativity is a disgrace for the human race ' |
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Is done allready, look above or read here http://pubs.sciepub.com/faac/4/1/1/index.html
In short, EDFA is the keyword, - the faster anything moves opposite DFA the stronger EDFA. EDFA is the cause of
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Yes no reason to change Newtonian gravity, - The MTR agree gravity is and always have been a FORCE
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The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017 - Part II
Ahhh. Now all becomes clear. The artifacts of extreme Christian dogma, the transition to Odin based theology, the extreme and irrational hatred of a theory he disagrees with, and now the trumpeting of a good Danish (white) name against “Jewish Science,” as some NAZIs characterized relativity. This was never about science. It was always about hating the Jews. |
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I love how you dog whistle your NAZI sympathizing by claiming your opponents have dubbed your ideas an “axis of evil.” You really should slap a coat of Jesus varnish on your ideas and position them as Creationist. You could make a killing on the religious and alt-right lecture circuits in the USA. |
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Dear Bjarne "Axis of Evil,"
I think I found the perfect video for you to play to lull your grand kids to sleep at night. It seems right up your alley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwEC6abtngU
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I'll grant you this one: you have actually addressed it, even if the calculation is rubbish. (Hint: the EDFA is unidirectional, but the precession of Mercury is not unidirectional over many orbits)
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Does time dilate due to gravity? If yes then "Time dilation" isn't "a different pipe of tobacco" where gravity is concerned. Again General relativity asserts the Newtonian force of gravity as an inertial force.
Which again can be detectable outside the soup and the pot. Anyway you're barking up the wrong tree here, even just analogy wise, not that you'll understand it though. A continuous space is by definition everywhere dense. It can't get more or less dense, anywhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_set No we don't, you have shown no evidence or experiment showing "Matter moving north will lose energy as well as mass" nor any directional dependence for relative time. Heck you haven't even shown how your notions would even result in such experimental data. Again, by your own assertion you can't even calculate your total energy to show that it can even change at all. Be my guest. Indeed there are and they have been given to you before. Are you claiming there is no way for you to distinguish between a curved and a flat physical space? Clearly you don't understand as curvature does not "take up" space at all, but merely alters the relations of points in that space and thus paths through that space. No, stealing is still stealing regardless of what you think you will be doing with what you try to steal. No need, if history is any indication I'll still be saying it to you, again, even then. |
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You don't understand it, - all orbits not moving at full Dark Flow speed is affected by EDFA, - and if the orbit-inclination not is perpendicular on the Dark Flow Axis, you will have periods increasing and decreasing the kinetic energy. The formula to calculate it is there. In addition, as already discussed you have a ASAM influence.
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Mass lower in a gravitation field have lower mass / energy, and therefore lower "reality deformation / transformation" - which include slower ticking clocks.
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Ahhh. The logic of every shoplifter who claims there’s nothing wrong with their crimes because they’re only stealing little things or things of little value. “It’s just a candy bar. Nobody will miss it.” Scale up the logic and you get the folks at a certain investment company who opened fake accounts to rip people off for a few hundred to a few thousand dollars each. Keep going with that logic and you get degenerate scum who rip off governments and wealthy individuals for millions to billions because “they have plenty of money.” |
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So you confirm that GPS satellites are affected. Good.
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It was ages ago. He asserted that they were being manually corrected as a way to excuse the lack of proof of them in the publicly available logs that someone linked to. It was pointed out that this would entail a huge expenditure in terms of staffing. I don't recall where the discussion went after that, but it looks like his current denial of time dilation in general is how he "resolved" the issue in his "arguments."
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Spacecraft Anomalies Whether the NASA MMOD programs focus on protecting the space environment or the spacecraft, monitoring, reporting, and analysis of satellite anomalies are of vital importance. Particulate-induced anomalies could provide valuable validation of environment characterization of objects within critical size ranges (5 mm to 10 cm for debris and 10–11 g for meteoroids) and velocities (7 km/s for debris, up to 72 km/s for meteoroids if in bound solar orbit), as well as a better understanding of operational effects owing to particulate impacts. Satellite anomalies are mission-degrading or mission-terminating events affecting on-orbit operational spacecraft. However, it is not normal procedure to provide information on these anomalies to the public or even to other offices within the same organization, for to a variety of reasons: limited staff for reporting and analysis, concerns about system reputation, desire to protect proprietary information, uncertainty in the meaning or cause of the events, national security, and so on. Depending on their severity, a program operations philosophy, and an available staff, anomalies are recorded and analyzed to some degree. Individual operational satellite programs, such as Iridium, Defense Meteorological Satellites Program, and others, use such information as a means to (1) assess system performance, (2) determine potential changes in operations, or (3) diagnose the cause of an event. There is no standard nomenclature for describing system symptoms associated with anomalies or how they are recorded, shared, resolved, or stored. There is no standard approach to prioritizing steps in a process for addressing an anomaly, including recording, resolution, and/or determination of cause. Many system operators are much more concerned about getting their satellite back into operation than about determining the cause of a failure. Repeat failures often get examined much more rigorously. Typically, the following causes of anomalies are considered: routine failures of parts, electrostatic discharge, single-event upset, command error, particulate impact, and unknown. Unfortunately, there is no standard resolution process to determine the cause of an anomaly. The process of determining a cause is unreliable, and the degree of confidence applied to any one cause is minimal. “Unknown” is attributed to the vast majority of anomaly cases, since it is so difficult to determine exactly what happens in space without dedicated instrumentation to provide insights from on-orbit encounters that adversely affect satellite operations. There may be times when an “unknown” is erroneously attributed to a meteoroid or orbital debris event. Or there may other times when additional data indicates a high probability that the failure was caused by an MMOD event (see Box 10.1). From a flight safety perspective (i.e., protecting the spacecraft), determining the cause of anomalies in space is important to better assess how the system will continue to function and how future systems might perform. Read more https://www.nap.edu/read/13244/chapter/12#75 |
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In reality, "curvature of space" is an example of mathematics and science at their best. In 1827, Carl Friedrich Gauss published his Disquisitiones Generales Circa Superficies Curvas. Gauss defined what is now known as Gaussian curvature, and stated his Theorema Egregium (Remarkable Theorem). Translated from the Latin:
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In 1853, Gauss suggested to his student Bernhard Riemann that Riemann generalize Gaussian curvature to higher dimensions. In 1854, Riemann gave a lecture Ueber die Hypothesen welche der Geometrie zu Grunde liegen, which was the beginning of what we now call Riemannian geometry. Riemann's key idea is what we now call the Riemann curvature tensor. Those ideas were the foundation for non-Euclidean geometry, Riemannian manifolds, and the entire area of mathematics that came to be known as differential geometry. Circa 1900, however, what we now refer to as differential geometry was called the absolute differential calculus. That is the mathematics Albert Einstein had to learn in order to generalize his special theory of relativity to his general theory. The curvature of space has therefore given us entire areas of mathematics and one of the most beautiful and sophisticated theories of modern physics. As Bjarne has gone to a lot of trouble to demonstrate, it is not possible to understand the general theory of relativity without understanding the concept of curvature. |
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None of that is relevant to GPS. In fact, even small GPS orbit anomalies would cause substantial nav errors even if the Air Force didn't report those anomalies, and we don't see those errors.
GPS data is made available to the scientific community in excruciating detail, allowing some very exacting analysis of both Earth's geometry and the spacecraft themselves. A variation in orbit speed of even one millimeter per second would confound any such analysis, but, again, we don't see any such errors. |
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