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Old 9th October 2021, 11:57 AM   #1
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H5N6 anyone?

A very nasty version of influenza which has recently caused a spate of deaths in everyone's favourite pandemic breeding-ground, China. https://bnonews.com/index.php/2021/1...h5n6-bird-flu/

The Euro CDC warning is chilling:

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The additional reports of transmission events to mammals, e.g. seals and a fox as well as seroepidemiological evidence of transmission to wild boar, could indicate evolutionary processes, including mammal adaptation with the possibility to acquire the ability to transmit to humans.
Seems to me the time to start working on a vaccine for that sucker is approximately right now.
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Old 9th October 2021, 12:26 PM   #2
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Old 9th October 2021, 12:45 PM   #3
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Not sure if it was this or another influenza subtype that had like a 50-60 percent fatality rate. That's just insane. But it's killed so few people it's difficult to tell how that would look across millions of cases.
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Old 9th October 2021, 12:47 PM   #4
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Not sure if it was this or another influenza subtype that had like a 50-60 percent fatality rate. That's just insane. But it's killed so few people it's difficult to tell how that would look across millions of cases.
It's this one - fatality rate of 48% so far, and most of the rest severely ill.

Given the destruction wrought by Covid, with a measly fatality rate of about 0.6%, even if it dropped to 5%, we'd be looking at a catastrophe of unbelievable proportions.
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Old 9th October 2021, 01:43 PM   #5
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Lets not get into a pandemic panic over this one.
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Old 9th October 2021, 02:21 PM   #6
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Old 9th October 2021, 02:26 PM   #7
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To be serious though, I don't think it'll be long before one of these outbreaks of influenza or SARS-like diseases hits that sweet spot of virulence and transmissibility, killing frequently enough to give epidemic deniers pause and moderate enough to sustain the spread internationally.
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Old 9th October 2021, 02:35 PM   #8
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To be serious though, I don't think it'll be long before one of these outbreaks of influenza or SARS-like diseases hits that sweet spot of virulence and transmissibility, killing frequently enough to give epidemic deniers pause and moderate enough to sustain the spread internationally.
Hmm, a population of 1.4 billion and a handful of H5N6 cases since 2014? This one doesn’t look the candidate
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Old 9th October 2021, 02:53 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by lionking View Post
Hmm, a population of 1.4 billion and a handful of H5N6 cases since 2014? This one doesn’t look the candidate
It's probably worth checking up on the old enemy from time to time.
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Old 9th October 2021, 03:24 PM   #10
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Hmm, a population of 1.4 billion and a handful of H5N6 cases since 2014? This one doesn’t look the candidate
Eh - 1/3 of those were within the past three months. That's still a very low number, but it's good to know that people are keeping an eye on it.

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Only 48 people have been infected with H5N6 bird flu since the first confirmed case in 2014, but a third of those were reported in mainland China during the past 3 months alone. Half of all cases were reported during the past 12 months.
Hopefully that's just due to better tracking and monitoring, possibly due to changes made in response to Covid-19.

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Originally Posted by crescent View Post
Eh - 1/3 of those were within the past three months. That's still a very low number, but it's good to know that people are keeping an eye on it.

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Hopefully that's just due to better tracking and monitoring, possibly due to changes made in response to Covid-19.
That’s my point.
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It's probably worth checking up on the old enemy from time to time.
Oh I get that. It will be good to see China jump on this quickly.
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Originally Posted by crescent View Post

Hopefully that's just due to better tracking and monitoring, possibly due to changes made in response to Covid-19.
I had the same thought. Sometimes things may appear to be more frequent recently simply because more tests are being done lately than in the past.
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Originally Posted by crescent View Post
Eh - 1/3 of those were within the past three months. That's still a very low number, but it's good to know that people are keeping an eye on it.

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That’s my point.
I remember when there was only a very low number of Covid fatalities. 600k later in the U.S. and millions worldwide less than two years later.

It's not a thing to panic over, but its clearly an important and necessary thing to study and understand, the sort of thing that might benefit from having some updated contingency planning.

I mean, its less the overall numbers than it is the recent uptick.
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I remember when there was only a very low number of Covid fatalities.
When I started the first Covid thread, the death total was under 20.

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It's not a thing to panic over, but its clearly an important and necessary thing to study and understand, the sort of thing that might benefit from having some updated contingency planning.

I mean, its less the overall numbers than it is the recent uptick.
Nailed.
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A very nasty version of influenza which has recently caused a spate of deaths in everyone's favourite pandemic breeding-ground, China. https://bnonews.com/index.php/2021/1...h5n6-bird-flu/

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Seems to me the time to start working on a vaccine for that sucker is approximately right now.
The first SARS was very deadly too. It was easy to identify those infected and like Ebola, if it's too deadly, it can't spread easily.
I will have my flu shot next year like I always do.
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The first SARS was very deadly too. It was easy to identify those infected and like Ebola, if it's too deadly, it can't spread easily.
That's not necessarily correct, particularly in the case of zoonotic jumps. The virus evolved to what it is - how it interacts with humans follows no blueprint. We got lucky with Covid in that it's not that deadly. A lot worse than 'flu, but no Captain Trips. MERS is much worse than either Covid or SARS.

I bet Stephen King has a wry smile every time a virus of that level of harm is discovered.

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I will have my flu shot next year like I always do.
Wouldn't help you if H5N6 did break loose.
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