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Old 7th October 2021, 05:07 AM   #1
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Are you still unvaccinated and why?

As a counter to the "are you vaccinated" thread, I wonder how many here are not and why.

My wife and I got double dosed vaccinated a couple of months ago. Our state in Australia is tracking for 90% double dosed by mid November.

So who are the vax hesitant here?
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Old 7th October 2021, 05:24 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by lionking
So who are the vax hesitant here?
It's old technology??

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Old 7th October 2021, 05:29 AM   #3
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Have to wait at least two weeks after by Covid booster to get the Tetanus shot that is due.
But I will do it, I promise!
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Old 7th October 2021, 07:42 AM   #4
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I need to get in for both a Covid booster and flu shot.
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Old 7th October 2021, 11:26 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
It's old technology??

A VMS joke, I like it.


In answer to the OP: of course not, fully vaccinated, and because I have a working brain and a lack of belief in nuttery.
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Old 7th October 2021, 01:49 PM   #6
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Fully vaccinated since May, so not yet quite eligible for the booster (8 months). Got my flu shot last week. Also vaccinated against stupidity.
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Old 7th October 2021, 05:32 PM   #8
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I'm mildly amused by lionking's professing to believe that anyone here might not be vaccinated. It's in SI&CE, not FC, so I'm supposed to take the proposition seriously, but I cannot.
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I'm mildly amused by lionking's professing to believe that anyone here might not be vaccinated. It's in SI&CE, not FC, so I'm supposed to take the proposition seriously, but I cannot.
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Old 7th October 2021, 06:32 PM   #10
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I think it's a fair question. There are people here who have promoted anti-vax theories and, in some cases, quite openly opposed vaccination. So why not ask if they really are doing what they say?

I don't think it's "bigoted stereotypes" to note that some people have openly opposed vaccination here, but perhaps I misread the comment, as it seems I so often do with the prestige's offerings.
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Be prepared to rein in any arguments about covid conspiracy theories or covid general discussion.

A poll might have been a better choice so as to avoid pile-ons.
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Old 7th October 2021, 06:58 PM   #12
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This was not meant to be a trolling or callout thread. Vaccinations do not appear to be compulsory in most parts of the world. It seems that 10-20% object to vaccinations. I wanted to explore the whys amongst forum members.
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Originally Posted by lionking View Post
This was not meant to be a trolling or callout thread. Vaccinations do not appear to be compulsory in most parts of the world. It seems that 10-20% object to vaccinations. I wanted to explore the whys amongst forum members.
Apologies. To clarify, I wasn't intending my initial post as a call-out, just refuting theprestiges assumption that no one here would be unvaccinated, by pointing out some members who have proclaimed themselves so. I'll edit out the post in question.
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Apologies. To clarify, I wasn't intending my initial post as a call-out, just refuting theprestiges assumption that no one here would be unvaccinated, by pointing out some members who have proclaimed themselves so. I'll edit out the post in question.
You don’t need to do that. I wasn’t addressing my comment specifically to you.
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Old 7th October 2021, 08:08 PM   #15
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With the climate around here, it would be pretty unlikely that many would admit such a thing. Even though I am certain there are some.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
With the climate around here, it would be pretty unlikely that many would admit such a thing. Even though I am certain there are some.
There are certainly some, but they won't post in this thread.
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Of course I'm fully vaccinated. Two weeks ago I got the flu vaccine. I never drink alcohol, see my mother twice a week, and always try to include the Oxford comma.
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There are certainly some, but they won't post in this thread.
I don’t see why not. If they are certain of their decision and believe they can justify it, why not? Plenty admitted to voting for Trump….
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I don’t see why not. If they are certain of their decision and believe they can justify it, why not? Plenty admitted to voting for Trump….
If they do, I predict that this thread will become a clone of the Conspiracy Theories thread.
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There are certainly some, but they won't post in this thread.

Wrong, I'm here. Any "why" will get moved to "CT" or "AAH" as you've mentioned so we'll cut this short. I've not taken any "medicine" since my teenage days and I'm certainly not going to start with this BS.
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Wrong, I'm here. Any "why" will get moved to "CT" or "AAH" as you've mentioned so we'll cut this short. I've not taken any "medicine" since my teenage days and I'm certainly not going to start with this BS.
I call BS.
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Wrong, I'm here. Any "why" will get moved to "CT" or "AAH" as you've mentioned so we'll cut this short. I've not taken any "medicine" since my teenage days and I'm certainly not going to start with this BS.
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Wrong, I'm here. Any "why" will get moved to "CT" or "AAH" as you've mentioned so we'll cut this short. I've not taken any "medicine" since my teenage days and I'm certainly not going to start with this BS.
Fair enough. I don't understand that "why" will end up in AAH. I don't want that to happen. Do you think they don't work, or that other remedies work better, or that cover doesn't really exist?
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A VMS joke, I like it.
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Wrong, I'm here. Any "why" will get moved to "CT" or "AAH" as you've mentioned so we'll cut this short. I've not taken any "medicine" since my teenage days and I'm certainly not going to start with this BS.
Well, ...

If you are actually willing to throw your life away for no good reason, then that is your choice.
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The lack of a compelling reason. I don't go into the office, I don't go out drinking in bars, I don't shop in the grocery store. The chances of me catching it are so low, they would increase by going in and getting the vaccine. I live alone, with a dog, and am not exposed to the diseased population at all.

I'm being compelled to get it started next week, but I'll be able to get some time off for the event, so I've got that going for me. I've got to be "fully vaccinated" by the 22nd of November, which is understood to be last dose by 2 week prior.
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Wrong, I'm here. Any "why" will get moved to "CT" or "AAH" as you've mentioned so we'll cut this short. I've not taken any "medicine" since my teenage days and I'm certainly not going to start with this BS.
We are very glad to know that you are not vaccinated against COVID-19.
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Sixty-some years ago (she'll say forty-eight) my youngest sister was born and not long thereafter she had to receive a handful of vaccinations. Well as soon as she did her dick fell off.

A few months ago she went for the Covid vaccine and her dick's since grown back though she's still waiting for her testicles. I'm not taking any chances. She's always been the brave one and it's done her no good.

Just kidding. Only got the first jab on Monday, the second one was automatically booked for mid-November. Took this long to get the first jab only b/c I haven't ventured out further than the nearest place I can get groceries since before the vaccine was available.
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Back in the early 90's I was given a bad injection of what was probably a vaccine against Botulinum or maybe Anthrax, and it did me no favors. Of course, the government did not keep any records, so any life altering side effects can't be traced back to the vaccines, that they injected, but did not trace. The VA, giving you another chance to die for your country. So, yeah, the distrust isn't based on some wild conspiracy theory, but first hand experience.
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Well, ...

If you are actually willing to throw your life away for no good reason, then that is your choice.
That is the proper attitude to have. If you're vaccinated and your vaccine is effective, the unvaccinated won't concern you. You will feel the same way about them that you feel about people who refuse annual flu shots.
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Leftus, the military did that to another whole group of young soldiers in the mid 80's. I was one. Beta testing on people obligated to comply. Not good. So glad I never left the states while in service. That was another round of fun.

It does make new medical breakthroughs a bit scarier.
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Leftus, the military did that to another whole group of young soldiers in the mid 80's. I was one. Beta testing on people obligated to comply. Not good. So glad I never left the states while in service. That was another round of fun.

It does make new medical breakthroughs a bit scarier.
Well, history is robust with examples, and being one of them, I just don't react well to mandates. I'm not going to wait til the last minute to make sure I keep my rather cushy government job, but I wasn't the first in line, and to see people here just throw me into the group of loons, and then hand wave it away when I explain it, is rather tiring.
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Well, it's possible to go without medicine for decades in the first World. I haven't taken anything I can think of other than occasional light duty antibiotics, often precautionary, since teen years (for injury related infections). Usually I let stuff go and get better in a little while anyway. It's not science or medicine denial on my part, just a combination of laziness and stubbornness.

Eta: except the Pfizer vaccine, a tetanus booster or two, and I got a flu shot I think once, that I promptly got sick after receiving. And Advil when stuff really hurts
Umm, antibiotics, light duty or not, are medicine. I too let stuff go, and then have to take . . . medicine(s). Tetanus boosters, flu shots, analgesics, are all medicines. You didn't go without medicines.
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That is the proper attitude to have. If you're vaccinated and your vaccine is effective, the unvaccinated won't concern you. You will feel the same way about them that you feel about people who refuse annual flu shots.
Pure nonsense CaptainHowdy.

We have families. We share spaces with people who consume mass media and believe the misinformation that some paranoid/sociopathic fakenews outlets spew. It's far more than just the raw vaccine for this particular illness, but that's the line the deniers are sticking to these days. What else is a third of the country prepared to deny in the years to come?
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Umm, antibiotics, light duty or not, are medicine.
Yes. Yes, thanks, I knew that.

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I too let stuff go, and then have to take . . . medicine(s).
And I let stuff go and...don't.

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Tetanus boosters, flu shots, analgesics, are all medicines. You didn't go without medicines.
Yes. Yes, thanks, I got that. I don't think you understand.

Another poster was ridiculed for claiming not to have taken medicines since teen years. I was pointing out that it is not all that outlandish a claim. I don't even give a ****, and have barely taken anything, and most of what I have taken, I probably could have done without. That's not to say I have taken none. It's pointing out that with modern sanitation and clean water and a bit of luck, some people go skipping right along without any needed medicines.

For example, I once got a weird contact dermatitis from what was believed to be belladonna poisoning. By the time I went to the doctor, it was pretty much already over, except for the draining blisters dotting the scratches on my arms and hands. The doc gave me a Z-pack "just in case". I prob would have been fine without it.
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Old 8th October 2021, 08:24 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Another poster was ridiculed for claiming not to have taken medicines since teen years. I was pointing out that it is not all that outlandish a claim. I don't even give a ****, and have barely taken anything, and most of what I have taken, I probably could have done without. That's not to say I have taken none. It's pointing out that with modern sanitation and clean water and a bit of luck, some people go skipping right along without any needed medicines..

Thanks. Sick people "ridiculing" healthy people. So 2021.
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Old 8th October 2021, 08:25 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by Venom View Post
Pure nonsense CaptainHowdy.

We have families. We share spaces with people who consume mass media and believe the misinformation that some paranoid/sociopathic fakenews outlets spew. It's far more than just the raw vaccine for this particular illness, but that's the line the deniers are sticking to these days. What else is a third of the country prepared to deny in the years to come?
Did you get both the flu shot and the pneumonia shot this year? Or just the flu shot?
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