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25th December 2017, 01:32 PM | #202 |
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GPS, as a result of the time dilation which you admit is real, is proof that there IS no absolute reference frame.
We will keep bringing up GPS because it is such a comically easy way to topple the pathetic house of cards you've constructed out of reality denial. Your past responses were, to be kind, a joke. Why are you so determined to die on this hill anyway? What horse do you have in this race? Why are you so determined that just because a thing is beyond YOUR comprehension it must therefor be impossible? |
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Sunk cost dilemma. Having doubled and perhaps tripled down writing that new stuff mentioned just ain't gonna be conducive to letting go. The whole 'brainwashed' masses/academia shtick is also indicative of a practically complete buy in investment. The cognitive dissonance would just sting like heck to rip off the band aid this endeavor apparently represents. Always another year, some other data or protocol needed or as purported in the recent come back some new easier and faster, well, "choking". So dying on the hill isn't really likely and perhaps even more desirable than the death of the hill.
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The reason for many of these situations is summarized by character "Teddy Daniels" in the final words of Shutter Island (2010).
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But in proposing your 19 million year clock starts now as opposed to anytime in the 3.5 billion years prior you are saying your acceleration just 'pooped up' recently. The insanity and crap remain simply yours. Are you claiming that since there is no "no pulling source that close" that tests won't find any "acceleration" like you suggested? |
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The fact that you don't understand it is not evidence that it's not true.
And therein lies the core of the problem. Your entire thesis consists of you arguing that your own personal failure to understand something means the thing is impossible. You haven't thought though the implications of what you're claming. How can you have BOTH an absolute frame of reference AND time dilation? Explain it. |
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And it still is, also in the new theory
Simple because the ruler is a propotional relativistic variant. The point is that the faster absolute speed, the longer ruler. The local observer will not see that, but an absolute observer will So it all is almost business as usual, also even though the rules are changes. |
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I wonder how it is possible to have got me that much wrong.
I am saying that the pulling force is central ADG of our own universe; this is the cause of dark flow and DFA. Big Crunch’s trigger Big Bang's, in endless cycles, exactly like some huge supernovas constantly collapses / explodes in endless circles. Right now a Big Crunch happens. This will trigger Big Bangs, - not one but many. The dark energy rubbish is nothing but change of background gravity. The opposite of “gravity” (release of absorbed space”) … Which mean constantly change of the tension in space / in the universe. Therefore cosmological redshift is evidence, showing that our ruler shrinks, nothing more than this, not oppesite, the universe is not expanding.. The expanding illusion is caused by matter is brought away from a gravitational field when tension of space is released. Like boats brought away by the tidal .. After a (many) big Bang the elastic tension of space is released, and as a result the ruler everywhere, shrinks, - and time ticks faster. A Big Crunch will sooner or later again (after re-creation of matter) cause increasing tension to dominate. However because of the Universe is so big , these two oppesite processes takes a huge amount of time, to reach all "edges" of the universe. |
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Remember that the theory of relativity is based mainly on the Lorentz equations.
Already before the theory of relativity, in the late 1800 century, - we knew that time dilation and distance abbreviation was a result of these equations. The first one trying to make sense of what in the late 1800 was “mathematical nonsense” - was Albert Einstein. He tried to translate an already known strange mathematical language to human imagination and understanding. But he got some few points seriously wrong. Einstein did not understood that space have the ability to “absorb” energy. Therefore, he failed to understand (even abstract) how matter and space was connected, and he ended up with the concept “curvature of space” – which no one ever have understood what really is. Einstein did not understood how kinetic energy is absorbed by space, and therefore he constructed a universe without an absolute motion reference frame,- that contains a lot of contradictory illogical nonsense, student just have to accept. Einstein had to do it all so unnecessary complicated, because he have to compensate for the mathematical problem caused by the fact that the ruler is a variant, - he did not understood that simple point, and therefore derailed his own theory out in Jens peters Jensen’s plowed field. This is not meaning the end of the relativity; rather a significant modification is necessary. Einsteins train you certainly have to bring to the scrap yard. Still the underlying mathematics is the same, except it is not and never distances that is changing, it is the ruler, and therefore distances is only measured differently by different observers. Keep it cool & simple; - Relativity is now ONLY about “reality transformation” , - contradictory illogical nonsense is no longer necessary. |
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Originally Posted by Bjarne
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Just a loose term for Lorentz transformation.
Unlike real science and in the most pure style of forum brawling, Bjarne isn't curbed by any rigour; not even by making any sense. |
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Einstein summarized his understanding of that connection by writing Rμν - ½Rgμν = 8πGc-4Tμν
That equation explained the precession of Mercury's perihelion and predicted quite a few other things that were both counter-intuitive and possible to test, including gravitational lensing, the Shapiro time delay, gravitational redshift, gravitational waves, and cosmic microwave background radiation. Those experimental tests count as evidence for Einstein's understanding of the connection between matter and space, and as evidence against Bjarne's "understanding" of that connection. When Bjarne says no one ever understood that concept, what he really means is that Bjarne himself never understood it. |
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No, the observer at rest observes length contracted in the moving body. The observer at rest remains at rest with their own rulers so they never change for them. Since both are moving relative to each other, each sees the others length as contracted. No one sees the others rulers as "longer". You are mixing reference frames where the person at rest might say their rulers are "longer" than those of the moving body and even getting that wrong by asserting the rulers of the moving body get "longer". Again, please stop with the crap, since it spews from you. |
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what's that new theory Simple(ton?) that bjarne is talking about?
where's that theory clearly and thoroughly enunciated? |
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OK, great so now that is some 14 billion years that have passed. Everything would have reached your terminal velocity, well, 14 billion years ago. If you get nothing right in what you assert no one else can get anything but the wrong you exude.
Again, please just stop with the crap. That you just pull it from your arse is clear to everyone. Even you, as you assert no basis other than your own assertions and simply hope to find some data you can just claim as corroboratory rather than working form established data or principles. |
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No, relativity is based mainly on Galilean relativity, the local consistency of the speed of light and the inability to establish motion other than relative to something else. Hence the name Relativity. Coordinate differences are not a result of the transformation equations but of the coordinate system chosen.
None of it was “mathematical nonsense” even in the late 1800s and Einstein explicitly used the mathematical sense made by Minkowski, Poincaré, Maxwell and others. Henri Poincaré even beat Einstein to the punch with a relativity principle (however still including the luminiferous aether) earlier in 1905. That it evidently makes no sense to you certainly doesn't make it “mathematical nonsense” to anyone but you, even in the late 1800s. Seriously, do you ever tire of just pulling crap from your arse? For those that want the actual history of special relativity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...ial_relativity |
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I've just found he withdrew his article, the one in the OP on this long-winded thread.
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OK, perhaps he is learning and disencraping his shtick, though I suspect not.
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Perihelion anomalies
Motion away from DFA will decelerate an object, - such object will get the loss of kinetic energy back when it again moves/accelerate against DFA. The magnitude of the orbit anomaly that influence will cause depend on the orbit inclination relative to DFA. Here you have the cause of perihelion anomalies in general, its simply causes by what this theory also call EDFA (Effective Dark Flow Acceleration") Think about, - ONLY one day of measurement near arctic, - can CONFIRM DFA Once and for all. That day you do not need more crap to explain or understand perihelion anomalies. - Its simply cause by a DFA (the precession-magnitude depend on a planets inclination relative to the DFA direction) - all very easy to grasp.. Cosmological redshift is not cause by " a photon fighting itself out of a gravitational field" - but simply due to that the tension of space is stronger deeper inside a gravitational field. Whereby the photon is emitted in a different / stretched / environment. Such photon is "born" redshiftet, and in the end of the day this is why black holes are black. Light is when extreme effected by gravity, - emitted as radio waves. Gravitational lensing is also cause by the elastic tension of space. Gravity is stretching the tension of space I don’t see any disagreement at that point. Shapiro time delay is cause by local time dilation. |
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Not only that, W.D.Clinger, as I'm sure you know, the full equation is E2=M2c4 + P2c2. When talking about a falling rock the momentum (P) part can't be eliminated. Naturally Bjarne seems to be confusing invariant or rest mass (the M) with relativistic mass (the E divided by c2). Even with the addition of momentum (P) M doesn't change but E divided by c2 does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_i...ial_relativity |
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