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30th October 2017, 02:14 PM | #321 |
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Manafort states that the alleged crimes he committed were unrelated to his "five minutes" while with the Trump Campaign.
Statement here: Those activities ended in 2014 |
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I'm not sure if 2 levels of government cooperating would count as 'collusion'.
Ok, maybe Meuller wouldn't be able to dictate what charges were laid and when, but he is coordinating with NY (as another poster pointed out), so he and the state AG could still come to an agreement, like: Meuller: "I've got these federal laws I was going to charge them with". State AG: "I've got these broken state laws". Meuller: "Lets coordinate the release schedule". |
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30th October 2017, 02:34 PM | #325 |
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And then Manafort worked for Trump.
For free. Which raises two obvious questions? 1. Why Manafort? 2. Why for free? And therein lies quite likely the rub: Manafort worked for Trump because he was already in bed with the Russian, and he may have done it for free because he was already payed by the Russians. Manafort is in deep deep **** ("to the upper crest of the lower lip", as a German idiom puts it), because Mueller has something to the tune of a $10,000,000 bail-and-still-unfree-to-leave against him. And Manaford has something against Trump. /Story |
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Oh, minions are adorable! Trump is just the sort of boss they would love!
Their quest 2:00-6:00 ETA: Good to see if I'm off topic with movie references I'm not alone! |
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'Cause it ain't.
That would amount to admitting that Trump, personally, knowingly, willingly, maliciously, conspired with the enemy against America and against Democracy. What is, in the minds of conservatives, the correct punishment for High Treason? |
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We have to be past Peak Trump now
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Oh dear, it would appear that I have an admirer.
Here is a tweet for people who are interested in learning more about the facts I posted: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...64190280323072 |
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There's gangsters and organized crime everywhere at the top level of (not only) US government, including Mueller who has a lot of skeletons in his closet not least covering up for international networks post-9/11. It's anybodies guess where this tumbling abomination will turn next, but the fact that Trump is now closing in on one year after election, untouched by anything but a cacaphony of pre$$titute noise, shows that if there's mayor dirt on him, it can't be untangled without bringing the whole House of Cards down. |
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This may or may not be so, but doesn't really touch upon my question: What conservatives feel is the correct punishment for someone conspiring with the enemy against America and against Democracy.
Like, whatabout ... if Obama actually were a muslim and had created ISIS? |
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I don't recall who suggested this, but someone in this forum once said that Mueller's investigation leaks like a sieve. Since nothing relevant has leaked, nothing could be there.
As it turns out, it turns out that they did not leak the guilty plea of Papa... this isn't a good argument. Mueller seems to be running a right team. |
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This alone suggests to me that this is not politics as normal in Washington.
Were this really a witch hunt, leaks would be used to discredit and disparage the people being investigated, in lieu of actual prosecution. Instead, this seems to be running like an actual investigation by people who think something is there and are looking for convictions. |
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I freely admit that my interpretation of current events, including but by no means limited to the fact that $10,000,000 bail only buy him house arrest, is somewhat speculative at the moment - but chances are very much higher that Manafort will sing like a bird about how he personally profited from assisting Trump in(to) colluding with the enemy than that he did it for a nice post at the UN.
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Also of interest, Ken "Popehat" White lawsplains the indictments and Papa's plea. |
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You mean I have excellent sources, because by now what I told the people here more than five years ago about Syria, not least based on Sibel Edmonds' early reports from the sources she got through her whistleblower association, is now since a couple of days admitted from the horses mouth, and you have not even heard about it because your sources you even pay for don't want you to know. |
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