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27th April 2018, 06:39 PM | #121 |
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Despite the attempts by Trump, and the political right to demonize the Clintons, the Clinton Foundation is actually a very highly rated charity.
Charity Navigator gave them a 4 star ranking (higher even than the red cross) and Charity Watch gave them an A for both their transparency and their ability to spend money responsibly with low overhead. They have helped thousands of farmers improve their practices, improved education for thousands more, helped improve the environment with reforestration efforts, and helped provide medication to poor people in the developing world (among many other programs). Most of the allegations criticizing it (oftenen revolving around "pay for play") have been found to be groundless. The only valid criticism is that they accepted money from governments and individuals that did not have a good human right's record, but the question about whether it is noble to accept money from bad people if it will be used to do good work is a philosophical one. https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings...foundation/478 https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...ry&orgid=16680 https://medium.com/the-facts-about-t...w-df0b1aa865a5 Given the fact that the Clinton foundation has a lot of success at helping people (and does so at a relatively low cost), only an idiot or a psychopath would want that to end, just so that they can score some cheap political points. |
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Yup, according to Charity watch and Charity Navigator, that's exactly what they do, keep on giving, to people that need it. Sort of the opposite of your boy Donald who is busy using his businesses to line his pocket on the Tax-payer and used his charity as a way to pay for his business expenses.
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The author of this article has got it backwards. Hillary should be encouraged to keep a high profile and run again in 2020, for the sake of the nation as a whole. |
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2nd May 2018, 12:49 AM | #129 |
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Sounds like Marcus' point is supported by the article.
Don't just blame white men for Donald Trump's success, (roughly) the same proportion of women voted for Donald Trump as voted for the previous two GOP candidates. In other words women didn't turn away from Donald Trump and IIRC a majority of white women voted for him. |
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The point was that womens support for Trump was about the same as for previous Republican candidates. Movement of a couple points from either group could have put her over the edge. As far as the race angle goes, Trumps margin was pretty much identical to Romneys.
If you want to blame men for electing republicans, it would have to be all republicans, not just Trump. |
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She's just going for the record for how many excuses one can provide to explain an election loss.
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The last election was extremely close, with a lot of factors going into the campaign. Perhaps the reason for giving multiple 'excuses' for losing the campaign is that there actually WERE multiple reasons.
Yes, Trump fans like to dumb things down to "Boo Hillary", but for anyone who is actually interested in being an intelligent adult in their analysis, they can use the campaign to examine a series of factors (the electoral college, racism, sexism, the roll of the media, the roll of the past republican administrations, "Bernie Bros", and yes mistakes by Clinton herself.) Given how close the election was, if any one of those factors had been different Trump would not have been president. |
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I don't anything see wrong with analyzing the various reasons Hillary lost here. They only become excuses when the lady herself seemingly makes a career of finding ways to avoid responsibility. One could claim that she is just concerned about making money off her book or latest tour, but that's not it, she already has more money than she can reasonably spend.
My own opinion is that she is concerned about how she will be viewed in history, and she would rather be seen as a martyr than someone who lost by foolish mistakes or force of personality. |
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Well, first of all, she has never tried to absolve herself of all responsibility. Clinton herself pointed out certain tactical mistakes that she made (not visiting certain states, handling coal miners).
Secondly, many of the reasons she lost were totally out of control. She didn't invent the electoral college (which allowed Trump to lose the popular vote but still win). She didn't chose to be female in a country where almost 1/10th of all voters say they will never vote for a woman. The republicans did a pretty good job of character assassination (Saying "Bengazi" probably gives Fox news reporters orgasms to this day)... but typically those investigations didn't actually find stuff she did wrong. Now, you could argue "She didn't do anything wrong but still should step aside because partisan political attacks made her look bad... unfair to her but it happened. But in that case the criticism should be aimed more at Republicans and the idiots who believed such attacks rather than at Clinton herself.
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I don't doubt that almost all of Hillary's base believes that she bears very little responsibility. Why do you suppose she is going to so much trouble to convince the public at large? Not a loaded question, this is just an aspect that interests me.
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Every political campaign is bedeviled by ten thousand things, big and little, that could sink it either separately or together. Viable candidates rise above most of the ten thousand things by securing a few big advantages - - popular support, adequate funding, etc. They can still be sunk by a single big problem, though. John Edwards' sex scandal, for example. There's not much a candidate can do about these big things, except avoid them if they can, or try to keep them quiet if they can't avoid them.
They can also be sunk by a bunch of little things that pile up too high. Michael Dukakis' campaign wasn't really sunk by a photo op of him in a tank. That was just one more straw in what became an unsupportable pile of straw for the campaign. Successful campaigners are able to mitigate the cumulative effect of the little things through a three-part strategy. First, by being actually viable. Second, by avoiding larger problems that could tip the scales beyond what they can control. Third, by controlling the little things they can control. The little things sink a campaign by adding up to something big. Keeping them from adding up is key to getting from a viable candidate to a successful campaign. Hillary's explanations of why she lost are a mix of little things, some of which she could control (engaging swing voters in key EC states), and some of which she couldn't control (Russian social media ads, Comey's last-minute bombshell). And because these were all little things, aggressively mitigating the ones that could be mitigated, could well have tipped the scales in her favor. Campaigning more actively in those key swing states, for example. |
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We have discussed Hillary's awful aide Philippe Reines numerous times and it seems that he has gone off the deep end again.
Unhinged Hillary Clinton Aide Tweets Weirdly Racist Message Taunting Don Jr. Over His Divorce. https://splinternews.com/unhinged-hi...mes-1825899607 The article asks a damn good question why Hillary let awful people like this nut hang out in her circle for so long. |
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Clinton and her campaign made a lot of mistakes, but the biggest was campaigning as if she had already won, or at least sounding that way. That not only inspired resentment among the large percentage of voters who were undecided right up to the election, but it also allowed her less enthusiastic supporters in the "sure thing" blue states to imagine that they weren't needed, so they stayed home. If she had taken Trump more seriously and her supporters had recognized that she really could lose, she almost certainly would have won.
A catalog of other Clinton excuses: http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clin...on-loss-685971 |
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The continued posting in this thread is a shining monument to whataboutism.
Let's talk some about Mitt Romney. Or Horace Greeley, for that matter. |
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Well there you have it, proof positive that Hillary Clinton is a misogynist and a homophobe. And on top of that, since Andrew Cuomo is a white male, Hillary must also be a racist. |
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Hillary Clinton, like Bill Clinton is a moderate-to-conservative Democrat, as everyone has been telling the frothing right wing for the past three years. This is not coming as a surprise to anyone on the left. Mayhaps you've listened to too much right-wing-radio. It's not necessary to run around waving your arms in the air screaming "Eeeek! A socialist!" The election's over and you can now identify her for what she is and identify Bill for what he is - corporatist moderate-to-conservative Democrats.
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Nice. Please describe what this would look like. "Why didn't you win?" "Me." That's a Trump-level response right there, one that answers no question and everyone is free to make up a meaning for. I'd rather hear from analysts anyways, the candidates themselves aren't going to know why they won or lost. Just look at all the reasons Trump won! Not a short list.
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Yes, but I think you may be missing the bigger picture.
The right needs to keep resurrecting and then re-nailing her to the tree. It’s to divert from the historic catastrophe that is Trump, for whom there is no defense much less pride. Yeah, we know Trump is kinda not the greatest, but think of how close the country came to having to suffer through HER! |
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No. I don't believe that. Were the 40 out of 43 Republicans who voted to confirm Ginsburg extreme left? Did they believe she was? The 34 who voted for Breyer? The Republicans on the Judiciary Committee that unanimously approved them both? How about Orrin Hatch, who was unstinting in his praise of Breyer. Also extreme left? |
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