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9th March 2018, 07:10 AM | #41 |
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9th March 2018, 07:42 AM | #50 |
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9th March 2018, 08:12 AM | #52 |
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I don't doubt that Kim Jong Un is keen to show the Yankee president grovelling in a photo op for all of the North Korean people to see.
One thing we know about North Korea is that its internal (and external) propaganda works overtime. How is video and photographs of Trump and Kim Jong Un meeting not going to be a positive for Kim? |
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Any possibility that this is the result of President Trump’s planned actions with North Korea and China and that a good outcome may emerge.
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9th March 2018, 08:30 AM | #55 |
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Sure there is some possibility, but he doesn't seem to have exhibited this kind of strategic planning and action in any other aspect of his Presidency. Instead he seems to flounder around, changing his position back and forth depending on who he last spoke to until events overtake him.
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Why do you think it is meaningless? Does the North Korean regime run a massive propaganda machine for no reason at all?
Do they not issue statements such as this when former presidents turn up on their shores? https://web.archive.org/web/20090808...0805-01ee.html
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9th March 2018, 08:44 AM | #59 |
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I don't see this meeting actually happening. Too many opportunities to call it off. We have the joint military exercises scheduled to begin this month, and that always pisses NK off. Apparently NK leader(s) don't fly so it would have to be somewhere near there (doubtful he would take the equivalent of a tramp steamer). The PDJT is not going to go to NK because he won't have control of the situation or an adoring crowd. The DMZ is out because that place is fraught with peril and could not be secured enough.
The only way I see this going through is if Kim promises him a huge parade. He'll be there in a heartbeat. |
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Oh, there external propaganda is atrocious and yes, even then there are supporters across the world. I think there is a particularly soft market for this in South Korea actually. There is a sense of admiration and romanticism for North Korea, the plucky superpower raising its middle digit to the Yankees. Even on this forum there are supporters!
But more to the point the internal propaganda is extremely important. Dictatorships don’t usually if ever survive purely by dint of oppression alone. There needs to be some degree of consent, even if it is passive consent. North Korea has a military first policy that requires much of its population go without in order to strengthen the country’s defenses against a hostile world. What better way to show that the nuclear program was worth it than to have it force the president of the United States to the negotiating table? |
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It's pretty humiliating for a national leader to have to go meet with a childish megalomaniac.
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9th March 2018, 09:17 AM | #67 |
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Trump always promotes a win-win-win Negotiating tactic.
For Example: North Korea wins because Un is the hero and wins by opening his country to trade and aid. He becomes the hero that re-unified North and South. Trump frames them as the Switzerland of area. Region wins by denuclearizing the North. Trump wins by doing that which no president has been able to do. |
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The other people who would be a target for this are any potential customers for NK nuclear and/or missile technology. There's been speculation that NK is interested in selling this tech to other "rogue" elements, and having the President of the US come grovelling to NK demonstrates exactly how valuable being a nuclear power can be. After 20 years of trying to get this result, they got it within a year of demonstrating an ability to nuke Hawaii and the US west coast. How hard would it be to make that spin stick? |
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Trump to Kim Jong-un:
"You should change your name to Long-un. That'd be funny ..." End meeting. |
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