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10th March 2018, 02:27 AM | #121 |
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I think it shows how inexperienced he and his team are and how they don't recognise that and do not speak to people with more knowledge before making decisions.
Probably what happened was Trump was told Jong Un would have a meeting, in Trump's mind that would demonstrate how awesome Trump was because he had done something no one else had ever done! On to Twitter to let people know!! Then someone from the State department turns up: "Er... Mr Trump he has said he will talk with all your predecessors... ...(an aide pulls him aside whispers in his ear).. sorry all the past big boys that weren't as great as you are. You going there has the chance to destabilize the region and cause multiple problems with our allies and non-allies in the region. (aide quickly marches the state department bod out of the office)" Kelly steps in "Let me explain sir. Jong Un will get more headlines than you will out of the meeting." |
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10th March 2018, 04:31 AM | #125 |
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I can't read the article, because I'm not a subscriber, but it seems that the Washington Street Journal is reporting that trump interrupted the South Korean officials who were briefing him about Kim's offer in order to accept it So, if that's true, then not only didn't he consult with anybody else before making the decision, he didn't even wait until he'd got all the information about it.
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If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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10th March 2018, 05:27 AM | #127 |
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10th March 2018, 06:20 AM | #128 |
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If this happens it will only be a win for Lunchbox unless it happens in a neutral third country and it won't. This will be Kim summoning the US president to the Korean Peninsula to acknowledge that the DPRK is a nuclear power. The loser goes to the victor. There's a reason why most US Soviet summits were in third countries or reciprocal visits. If The Hair goes to Korea he's lost the moment he gets off the plane.
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10th March 2018, 06:48 AM | #129 |
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It would appear from the outside that Trumpy got all excited about doing the thing no one else has done. In his magical world he's always saving the day. He was so excited he had to go tell someone so he stuck his head in the press room like a little kid blurting out what Dad's birthday present was that was supposed to have been a secret.
Tillerson gave a message about 'hold on there, not so fast' a day ago then in his next press conference he walked it back and said something akin to 'I guess the meeting will happen. Suckabee using Kelly's talking points gave the cautious tale and probably got chewed out for the second time. Talk of all the top staff getting ready to leave leaked out. |
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Can you imagine the stupid, farm league morons who will end up on the staff now? He's going to be stuck with only the worst failed genetic experiments and products of incest to work in his administration. He'll be nostalgic for the days when all he had to worry about were wife beaters and security clearances.
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I certainly agree with the rest you have written about how if there is a meeting between Trump and KJU that it is KJU who will have been most successful.
I would add a couple of other things, however, and that is the possibility that if such a meeting were to take place, at least one other potential location would actually be Russia where Kim Jong-il traveled a couple of times, and we know that Trump has nothing but good things to say about the president of Russia. Hopefully a visit to handgrenade factory where Kim Jong-un can smoke as many of his cancer sticks as he likes. The other point is we don't really know how likely a coup attempt would be if Kim went abroad. Pyongyang watchers tend to be split on how much division they believe is going on in the inner sanctum. Some of them think there is a division of "hawks and doves" and that the key to success in dealing with North Korea is to support the doves with conciliatory talk and maybe trade deals, and that a hardline only bolsters the hawks. Other Pyongyang watchers believe that the former Pyongyang watchers are just dupes of the DPRK's deliberate good cop-bad cop routine and that the reality is North Korea are skilfull manipulators, particularly of the vain. In that sense, Trump must be a dream come true for them. The type of leader whose resolve is shaky against those who know he can be sweet-talked. |
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There will conditions! Trump can’t go to N Korea unless they somehow get his Twitter working by satelllite phone. He will want to post selfies with Kim.
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What if Kim challenges him to a thumb war?
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Of course. That isn't why I'm asking. When things like this come up. Everyone's opinion here is often based on what others would think.
Group A are the people whose primary reaction is to judge the events ("Kim is an equal"). Group B doesn't have a primary reaction but have a secondary reaction ("this is a bad idea") based on the impact of Group A's primary reaction ("people in that group thinking Kim is an equal is bad for relations"). I have a bunch of questions for and about people in group A. |
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10th March 2018, 09:17 PM | #159 |
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The guy's mentally ill. People around him start out in denial, it couldn't be so. He'll start acting presidential, surely, any day now.
One by one the adults in the room give up. The news media knows he won't be acting presidential but they keep thinking he will, like Lucy pulling the football away year after year and Charlie Brown keeps thinking this time she won't. Listen to the pundits, saying things like, "maybe he can pull it off." They haven't learned a thing because they don't understand the personality disorder Trump has. Bet you Trump calls Dennis Rodman for advice. |
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I hope he has some good note cards for this one.
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