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12th May 2018, 07:22 AM | #81 |
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The latter seems accurate, evidently just the result of pseudoscience.
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If there is this undeniable trail of evidence, where is it? None has been posted here that's for certain. We saw improperly used welding machines melt down, we saw expensive arc light bulbs burn up and we saw a cotton candy machine make cobwebs, but never did we see any evidence of hydrinos or even any net gain in energy by any means or for any reason.
Sure I saw claims like you made being made, but that's a simple magician's trick of misdirection. James Randy taught us all how to quickly spot that sort of fraud. Maybe you forgot the original roots of this forum?
This was a takedown of psychics, however right from the beginning he talks about the art of deception. No one here is going to be fooled by the silly so called evidence Mills supposedly submitted. All we have seen is rather amateurish fumbling acts of deception that treats science as if it were magic! |
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I found the paragraph and I admire the specificity and professionalism of their opinion. They said the claims were contrary to the Standard Model of particle physics, General Relativity, and Quantum Field Theory; it seems Mills hit the pseudoscience Trifecta. Unfortunately, I expect he will just spin this to encourage his investors, who will be happy to believe his claims of persecution and suppression. |
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Heavens no, we wouldn't want to violate the Standard Model or General Relativity or Quantum Field Theory would we? The entire universe would collapse if they were wrong. Of a certainty, the 3 models may not seem to mesh together ; perhaps they appear to give us a disjointed view of the universe. Perhaps they cannot predict basic things like the ionization energy of Lithium's outer electron or the accelerated expansion of the universe. But the problem is our human weakness in not properly understanding what our Science has revealed to us. All hail what our Science has wrought! The glorious Trinity, full of mystery of how the 3 theories could exist in one ScienceHood! And while we're at it, Hail Mary, the Equivalence Principle! May she be forever blessed. She says that antigravitic matter cannot exist, and we bow before her pronouncement. Down with the heretics who would say otherwise!
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12th May 2018, 04:54 PM | #91 |
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Snark aside, essentially every argument we have ever made could be refuted by a single, unambiguously working example of literally any of the devices he's talked about for decades now. And yet, repeated promises to the contrary, we still don't have that. So, yeah, go ahead and snark. It's all you've got, after all. |
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12th May 2018, 06:41 PM | #93 |
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markie, I will happily acknowledge Mills’ genius if he produces useful amounts of power in units that can be evaluated and reproducibly operated by completely independent teams. Like, say, fission energy was reproduced around the world. Or if he can describe how to make hydrinos so that independent labs can produce and study them. You know, like high-temperature superconductivity.
When will you acknowledge that Mills is full of it? How many years or decades of still not producing commercial power units- of excuses - will it take? Will you still be saying the same things five, ten, fifteen years from now? |
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Whoa there, pardner! Save some of that straw for the farmers and ranchers! Ironically, your post, with less sarcasm and more whining, is exactly how Mills will explain his latest failure to the faithful. Who, eager to have their conspiracy theories reinforced, will lap it up. |
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Well, I'm not a patent professional like you are, but I think it's important to keep in mind that the examiner states, "lacks industrial applicability because the pseudoelectron violates the Standard Model of Particle Physics ... the antigravity described for the pseudoelectron further violates General Relativity ... further, the proposed mechanism, or property, of antigravity described for the pseudoelectron, violates Quantum Field Theory..." (italics mine).
In other words, not many patent applications blandly assert the existence of hitherto-unknown physical laws (which just happen to directly contradict known laws) to explain the operation of the proposed device or process. And if the process under consideration does not, or cannot, work, its applicability would seem to be pretty limited. Or is this more common than I had been led to believe? |
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Having been through the US patent process, it isn't that difficult if you have something real to patent. IF one is attempting to patent a fantasy, however, that becomes an iterative process. Apply for patent, take reasons for rejection and use them to change your application. Repeat until there are no objections left. Get patent on an idea that by now bears no relation to the original idea.
How much of that happens? I don't know. There is certainly enough that USPO felt the need to bolster and revamp it's rules a while back. That said, I have not had any rejection ever from USPO, I was dealing in the real world. |
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Such blatant expressions of violations of known physical laws are rare. Most people who are trying to sneak a free energy/cold fusion/perpetual motion machine through the patent process try to obscure their intent with vague wording. Even in cases where the examiner at the International stage thinks they might be trying to pull a fast one, they usually just leave it up to the later National level examiners to get into that argument, because there just isn't enough time at during the International phase for a lot of such back-and-forth. So the fact that in this case, the examiner decided to make a point of raising this objection tells you how obviously BS his claims are. |
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Well he's certainly left a trail of something.... He must go through a lot of kitty litter.
It is to laugh that you think claims that continue to be unsubstantiated count as evidence. Of course, you have no pecuniary interest in whether Mills continues to blather physics-sounding terms in perpetuity, do you... |
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Just watch. It’ll turn out Markie is a sock puppet for Mills. Once that’s revealed I won’t be able to say things like “Mills is a moron who wouldn’t know actual science if it jumped up and bit his knob off while he was cornholling one of his investors.” Well, I won’t be able to post that here anyway. |
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It never ceases to amuse me when cranks or scam artists claim that they are being repressed by scientists defending the dogma of currently accepted theories. The truth is that finding a verifiable, repeatable phenomenon that can't be explained by current theories will get a scientist fame and likely a tenured position (if they don't already have one). Formulating a new theory, which is mathematically consistent, explains the exception(s), and also fits existing data supporting the current theory, will get them a Nobel Prize. They not only have no understanding of how the universe works, they have no understanding of how science works.
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Back when I was an undergrad, we had one professor who had an experiment that suggested that neutrinos had a measurable mass. That was just an odd anomaly, until another lab produced the same result, when trying to replicate his work. At that point, there was talk of Nobel Prizes and such, because finding that neutrinos had mass would upset quite a lot of the then-current theories about how subatomic particles worked. No one went running around trying to "suppress" his work; in fact, for a few weeks, he was the talk of the town. But only for a few weeks, because that's when they finally figured out where the anomalous results were coming from. And of course, he accepted that result. He didn't start promoting conspiracy theories about how everyone was out to get him and his Newtrinos(tm). ETA: here's a contemporary paper discussing it: http://inspirehep.net/record/405749?ln=en ETA 2: And if you google "17 keV Neutrino", you'll see that there was quite a lot of public discussion of this anomaly, both for and against it. |
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Which is a lie because you know that his "evidence" is deniable.
Spectral signatures that have other explanations including possible fraud or at least ignorance. A lie of "tests confirming hydrino end product". Any "large excess heat" with other explanations. Many items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book and a paper Items of ignorance and some lies from markie from his blind faith in Mills.
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Mills is banking on people not reading beyond the abstract.
It's been a lucrative strategy for close to 30 years. |
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Mills was unaware of ceramics and their properties during his decades of Sun Cell research?
Not to mention his team also being unaware. |
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There sure seems to be an awful lot of work left to be done considering that that product has been on the cusp of release for decades.
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