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Nor was it intended to be a "logical argument," as you've repeatedly been informed. That's the part you don't seem to get. And your "claim" that "Avenatti is a ass" is neither an actual claim of fact or a logical argument; it's just an ordinary subjective opinion, which makes your hypocrisy relevant in judging its worth.
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I can see why the Big Dog says Avenatti is an ass. I mean Avenatti has been kicking Trump's ass etc all over the schoolyard. Avenatti has be 99 percent correct and Trump and the Big Dog have been 99 percent wrong. I'm so proud of Avenatti for enlightening the American people and beating Trump on TV like a pinata at a ten year olds birthday party.
What I keep hearing from TBD is faux outrage. He's not being a hypocrite. He's desperately trying to divert everyone from the slush fund and the corruption. He doesn't want to talk about whether the facts Avenatti has brought to light are true because he knows that they are and he knows Trump's White House stinks like a cesspool. |
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It was not supposed to be a logical argument? What was it supposed to be then?
My posts are pointing out that Avenatti is acting wildly unprofessionally with specific explanations why, which arguments have been "countered" with accusations of hypocrisy, in other words, not countered at all. |
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No, he hasn't. This is the Stormy Daniels thread. He hasn't been discussing the evidence of that case. All he's been doing is whining about Avenatti as opposed to whether Trump slept with a porn star right after his wife gave birth to his son. He hasn't been discussing how Trump and Cohen are going to collect from Me. Daniels damages and if they can enforce the NDA. He hasn't been discussing the porn star slush fund and whether Cohen and/or Trump broke the law when they paid off Daniels.
I predicted that Cohen and Trump would release Daniels from the NDA by the end of summer. |
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Against my better judgment...
...for one thing, with Cohen accepting large sums of money for some sort of services rendered, whether he was also acting as the president’s attorney at any given time is relevant to whether attorney/client privilege can be invoked for any given conversation. Right now, my working hypothesis is that there was no date certain where Cohen was formally dismissed. As such, Trump and Cohen can retroactively decide on the date most advantageous to them. That’s why it’s a question that should be answered forthwith. |
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I've been paying a great deal of attention. TBD may have discussed that at one time, but his focus has continually shifted to Avenatti and unsubstantiated attacks on him. What we see in this case is sleaze and corruption. Cohen is certain to be indicted and disbarred and the Stormy Daniels case is on life support. And there is nothing but wild whines about Avenatti.
Mark Felt told Woodward and Bernstein to follow the money. Avenatti has provided a sneak peak into Trump's money trail. Can't wait to see more. |
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In any legal defense there are three options, so I've seen written.
1) When the evidence is on your side, pound the evidence. 2) When the law is on your side, pound the law. 3) When neither is on your side, pound the table. I see a lot of table pounding by Trump's defenders. They just don't recognize that they're doing it. |
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That is of course not accurate. The attorney client privilege does not terminate upon the termination of the relationship. Thus if trump and Cohen discuss today something that was privileged in October 2016, the former discussion and the new discussion are of course privileged.
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If only I have been proven wrong in this thread. Oh well, guess we should get back to that NDA that will never be enforced.
Avenatti should send Trump and Cohen a thank you note. They have made Avenatti into a household name. How much money is that worth? As a side, do you think Trump will pardon Cohen,? Or is he going to flip? Want to bet on whether Cohen will be disbarred? |
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Avenatti looks like a genius. He's taken a tiny little case and turned himself into one of the best known attorneys in America. Clients are probably lining up for his representation.
He singlehandedly shut Trump up. No mean feat since Trump is incapable of that. Avenatti is articulate and the ladies love him. I keep seeing things like Avenatti is a hottie. |
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Well, that particular quote was a sarcastic prediction about what would be found in a history search, which is why I sarcastically questioned your understanding of the concept of "argument."
You must be referring to an argument that you think Cain is implicitly making? (See: straw man.)
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Think Cohen is going to take the rap for money from AT&T to Stormy for Trump?
Wonder if Cohen actually took out the home equity line of credit to muddy the waters, hard to tell which money went where. Or maybe he never took that line of credit out. Just when they look like bumbling crooks, it could be they know how to launder money with exquisite expertise. |
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Claiming that I am biased rather than addressing my argument is the very definition of an ad hominem fallacy.
Although, strangely enough on the hierarchy of argument your defense of these claims as “mocking” is actually on the very lowest level, so thanks: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...sagreement.svg |
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Hey, I'm not really the one calling Avenatti handsome. He's been described that way by Women's magazines, Salon, Huffington, Slate,people on MSNBC, CNN, the women on The View were gushing over him.
Stormy has to love him. Avenatti has pretty much freed her from the NDA and she has been making a pretty penny herself. |
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