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10th May 2018, 02:25 PM | #201 |
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Yeah, sure it is. Youve been wrong at every turn.
Avenatti is eating Trump for lunch. You OTOH, use to talk about how Avenatti was making mistake after mistake. In the meantime, his strategy has made himself one of the best known attorneys in America. And the result of the NDA has been Daniels on 60 minutes, The View and SNL. Cohen has also received a fair amount of notoriety. That is from the courts. We have only seen the tip of the corruption of Trump and his cronies and that doesn't concern you. But you are outraged on how this information became available. It's an embarrassment reading your inanity. |
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10th May 2018, 02:34 PM | #203 |
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I'm sure careful readers will note that neither the State Bar of California nor the California Supreme court are able to defend themselves from this attack as they are not members.
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Oh don't worry, I can quote them at length, in fact already have. "arm of the Supreme Court" and all. Curious that neither you nor the other thread lawyer have addressed that yet. "Curious."
The phv is directly tied to the motion to intervene and if Kimba learns that Avenatti is untrustworthy, that should sink both motions. |
10th May 2018, 02:50 PM | #206 |
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It means 'on this occasion only'. For example My Cousin Vinny met with the Judge to get permission to represent his cousin in Alabama although he was from New York. Technically, since he was a member of the New York Bar not Alabama's, permission from the presiding judge was required.
Also, normally, it wouldn't be allowed for Avenatti to be involved in the case in New York, but he wants access to everything because it could help with his Stormy Daniels case. So he is requesting an accommodation from Judge Wood for 'this occasion only'. |
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10th May 2018, 02:56 PM | #207 |
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The Bar has only investigative powers and can only recommend that disciplinary action be taken against a lawyer. That it is part of the Supreme Court doesn't seem to be particularly important in this thread.
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10th May 2018, 03:41 PM | #208 |
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Leftists are masters at making the unimportant seem important, and the important seem unimportant. What matters here is not whether Cohen took bribes, but that Stormy Daniels' attorney was mistaken about some of the money. That's the real story, but only one network seems to be reporting it.
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Well they could not be bribes, and an issue is whether criminal investigators are leaking harmful information as was suggested in the article I posted this afternoon.
I get tho that the leftist hang him high posse has already tried and convicted Cohen, of course, but some of us are just holding out for due process. Call us crazy, huh? |
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I wish TBD was this aggressive with his condescension of the leaks when Hillary's emails were coming out as he is here. Apparently only Trump and his merry band of ******** should be offered protection. I remember praises being sang to the leakers during the Hillary situation.
Must be a pain to live on both sides of the argument. Isn't there a fallacy for that? Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk |
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It more of an observation of your arguments. You haven't shown that the leaks are illegal at all. You've posted articles containing people saying they could be, or depending on certain circumstances they might be.
In Hillary's situation the hacking was actually illegal. They stole the emails of Hillary and the DNC by hacking. I hope Aveneti didn't break the law to release this information. That would be disappointing, but people do stupid things all of the time. If it turns out he did I will be critical of him as well, but not the information. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk |
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10th May 2018, 06:17 PM | #217 |
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I'd bet someone saw this information somehow and sent it to Avenatti just like Mark Felt fed information to Woodward and Bernstein. While someone else may have broken the law to expose this dirt, there is no evidence that Avenatti did anything illegal.
Now, the fact is dirt in Washington gets leaked every single day. Comey's argument for telling the world that they were still looking into Hillary's emails right before the election is that he believed somebody was leaking information to Giuliani and he thought it would be better that he say something when he did as opposed to the leaks. The fact is TBD is desperate. This shows that Cohen was selling access to Trump and my bet is there is some evidence of this money being funneled to Trump and or the Trump organization. |
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10th May 2018, 06:59 PM | #218 |
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Is Cohen still Trump's lawyer? My dad told me that Giuliani said Cohen was out, but I haven't been able to find anything definitive.
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10th May 2018, 07:20 PM | #219 |
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No way. Cohen and Trump are toxic to each other now. As for definitive? I doubt you're going to hear either Cohen or Trump say anything more. But theoretically Cohen is still representing Trump against Stormy Daniels. A case which has to be pretty close to being abandoned soon. I'm shocked they haven't released Daniels from the NDA already. These idiots have to get Avenatti off the stage. He's killing them. But as long as that case is still pending in court there is a reason for Avenatti to be on TV every single day.
Now Davidson, Stormy Daniels previous lawyer looks like he was double dealing and is now working with the feds. This is getting more and more interesting every day. |
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I don't think Cohen ever was Trump's lawyer in the Clifford v. Trump case. I'm not even 100% sure Trump has appeared in that matter. Essential Consulting, LLC appeared by an attorney who was not Cohen. As to whether Cohen could ethically continue as Trump's lawyer on matters not related to Daniels, I guess it's technically possible. No sane lawyer would let Cohen and Trump talk to one another ever again. But this whole matter left the realm of sanity a great while back. |
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Well, he never should have been on Trump's side (which is McDougal's claim - that would have been of clear conflict of interest. My idea, and it ie only sn idea, is that maybe he had been colluding with Cohen, but Muller got to him so he decided that if he was going to betray Trump, he wanted to do as much damage as possible, to make it harder to aco on any subsequent grudge.
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10th May 2018, 11:16 PM | #226 |
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Sure. Maybe there's a more appropriate term for this particular type of corruption.
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Air Force One quote from early April, “You’ll have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael is my attorney. You’ll have to ask Michael."
It’s been pointed out that there was a pause between “my” and “attorney”, as if Trump was searching for the right word to describe the relationship. Certainly, some time between then and now, they may have privately ended that relationship, whatever it was. But I don’t recall either side announcing it publicly - though maybe Giuliani did as he was thrashing around. |
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11th May 2018, 06:10 AM | #230 |
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EXACTLY! Mr. Hit and Run is the unfettered power of the United States Government and the right turn on red people are the ones at the target end of that long spear, and now that Government is leaking information for the sole purpose of swaying potential jurors? Despicable.
"Innocent-until-proven guilty is a conceit of the judicial system." I assume that is one of those Poe things that people were talking about seeing as how we are ONLY talking about the judicial system here? If so, well played. |
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It's likely that Trump was talking about either the original payment to Daniels or whatever private arbitration they tried to go through. In the actual filed case, ,Clifford v. Trump, et al.,, Cohen doesn't seem to appear as Trump's lawyer. His LLC is a named party and that LLC has appeared by a different attorney altogether. Once again - with Trump as with Giuliani's statements - timelines have been kept vague. I believe it's being done purposefully to confuse the issues. But Essential Consulting's financial records (now in the hands of the FBI and at least in part in the hands of Daniels' lawyer) will eventually provide an inarguable timeline. |
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week...ry?id=54962143
STEPHANOPOULOS: Is Michael Cohen still the president’s attorney? GILULIANI: No, of course not. It would be a conflict right now for him to be the president’s attorney. I am in this respect. So is Jay Sekulow, so are the Raskins, and then of course he has White House Counsel. As you know from working in the White House, that’s not quite your attorney, that’s really the president -- the presidency's attorney. |
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I just love seeing this thread listed. The thread name could be the title of a book and movie, plus a documentary.
As for discussion, what discussion? We get alt-right talking points, and eagerly and well-crafted responses that drop into the same empty well, albeit with style and no shrill clanging down the old chute. It's clear now: ratting on the rich and famous is worse than anything the powerful and near-immune might do, as any morsel-pining lapdog can attest, if it wishes to remain in good petting graces. I certainly hope some enterprising comedy or satire show takes up the challenge of using 18th c descriptions of loyalists and Redcoats to depict today's GOP and its sycophants. There must be a veritable treasure trove awaiting. |
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11th May 2018, 07:29 AM | #236 |
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Like I said, your wrong isn't even relevant here. I'll let Judge Kimba explain it to you.
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11th May 2018, 07:37 AM | #237 |
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First, I was not in the slightest bit wrong, I am not sure why you persist in making such risible claims (I refer you to my signature)
Second, the Pacer docket does not show that Mr. Avenatti has filed a motion pro hac vice, nor filed the motion to intervene, nor that he has associated local counsel in New York. All quite unusual would you not agree? /Judge Kimba? Are we on first name basis with the Judge? |
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Indeed, folks, it would appear that "Judge Kimba" has discovered what your correspondent learned yesterday: that our our intrepid Mr. Avenatti has not in fact FILED a motion to appear pro hac vice:
https://twitter.com/big_cases/status/994944300977917953 Gee, yet another Judge reminding Avenatti of basic points of procedure that a first year lawyer should know. |
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Wait a second. You were complaining that he filed a fraudulent motion to appear and now you are pointing out that no such motion has been filed.
Damned if he did and damned if he didn't? (And no, I'm not on a first name basis with the Judge. When you referred to her as Kimba in your posts I assumed you were using her last name, as is common when referring to a judge. I should be more careful.) |
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11th May 2018, 08:05 AM | #240 |
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I don't recall "complaining that he filed a fraudulent motion to appear" what I said that the pending disciplinary investigation would make it that much more difficult for the Judge to grant the motion. I endeavored to read the motion to appear pro hac vice to see whether he had disclosed the investigation and was amazed to discover he had not even filed it!
As such, "damned if he did" does not really apply because we KNOW he didn't file the motion. Certainly you agree with this, correct? |
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