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11th May 2018, 05:54 PM | #321 |
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"Ad hominem tu quoque is a specific type of ad hominem argument that attacks a person by focusing on their past words or actions instead of the veracity of their current claims. In an ad hominem tu quoque fallacy, a speaker's claims are attacked because they are not consistent with his or her past words or actions."
http://www.softschools.com/examples/..._examples/457/ Not gonna kid you folks, I laughed, hard, when I read this post.... |
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Cool, I asked you to post a definition of tu quoque that supports your interpretation, which has not happened yet. I did, now, twice cite definitions of the fallacy both of which contradict your claims.
Should we expect that you are going to do that, or not? But, that last post, you gotta admit that was funny. Right? Hey they are attacking "you" so not an ad hominem/tu quoque! Hee hee! Oh mercy. |
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11th May 2018, 06:39 PM | #328 |
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For the record, Big Dog absolutely does not understand the tu quoque fallacy. There was a very large thread devoted to explaining it in every way you can imagine, but he was like a creationist in a biology class.
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Well certainly someone does not understand it. My favorite part is where I cut and paste exact definitions of the fallacy (like I have done here) and people who have the faintest idea what it means ignore the definition and post things like, well, the above.
/man that thread was an absolute tour de force by me. Beautiful. |
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The truth is you don't actually care about the leaks. This is all a diversion from the substance of the leaks. Clearly Avenatti is winning the case for his client. I noticed that Fox News reported today that Avenatti and Miss Daniels have benefited from as much as 175 million dollars worth of promotion from the press.
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Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable. |
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Wait, has the DOJ said that Avenatti can put people on "FORMAL NOTICE" on the twitters?
Do people really not understand that there is a difference between what constitutes a record under the Presidential Records act and Thirsty's silly hyperbole of putting people on FORMAL NOTICE. By the way, I am fully willing to agree that Avenatti is every bit the same as you feel that Donald Trump is. In fact, had I said that I thought that Trump was acting correctly by tweeting on policy (which he is absolutely not) and that Avenatti was a flaming jackass, that would not contradict what I said about Avenatti in the slightest, now would it? On the other hand, we have correspondents here criticizing Trump for his twitter activity but ignoring the fact that Avenatti is grandstanding ninny by putting people on "formal notice" on the Twitters, which would in fact make our correspondents.... well y'all know. |
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One obvious difference...
When Avenatti makes a mistake, he admits it and moves on. Thinking of the “wrong Michael Cohen” issue. Kinda how responsible individuals act. Trump never admits a mistake. Thinking of his recent statement that military families had not had a raise in 10 years. And countless others. Avenatti seems measured when he speaks. Trump just says stuff. |
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“Mr. Nold is widely known as an unethical ‘hack’ of a lawyer who routinely files baseless complaints,” Avenatti’s email said. “He is a disgrace to the legal profession and is consumed by jealousy of other attorneys so he makes baseless allegations. His most recent conduct is yet more of the same — I hope he gets the help he needs.”
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I think Avenatti is great. There is a huge difference between how he acts and how Trump acts. For one, When Avenatti says 'formal notice on a tweet, this is simply rhetoric and you know it.
I ABSOLUTELY love that he is out there slapping around that lying sleazy POS that you are supporting. Avenatti is intelligent, articulate and seems to be ethical. 3 things you can't say about Trump, Giuliani or Cohen. |
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Amen, and I have been patiently trying to dissuade people from making very bad arguments based on accusations of hypocrisy. Let’s walk through it:
Tbd: Avenatti is making an ass out of himself by claiming to put people on “formal notice” on twitter. Left: Trump uses twitter! Tbd: that does not contradict my comment about Avenatti. L: u are a hypocrite. Tbd: again, does not contradict my claim, and is thus a blatant ad hominem. L: Trump’s tweet are presidential record! Tbd: fairly large red herring there L: u r hypocrite, ha ha. Tbd: wait a sec, you are criticizing trump for using twitter but not acknowledging Avenatti has made a jackass out of himself by claiming to put people on formal notice on twitter that would appear to make your arguments hypocritical right? L: crickets... Oh well.... |
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Now among the myriad mistakes that Avenatti has made (and hoo boy has he made a bunch) his latest and perhaps most serious is his claim that how he got the purloined financial documents was protected by "work product." Work product, as its name implies, is the materials that reflects the attorneys "work" and his "impressions, conclusions, opinions, or legal research or theories." So that means that Avenatti was not the mere unwitting recipient of the stolen documents but actively participated in getting the purloined documents.
Wow, what a damning admission by a guy who seems to be way over his skis. Crime fraud exception, anyone? |
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What total nonsense. Your arguments about Avenatti are absurd. As if the venue makes a damn bit of difference. Why not talk about the case which shows just how pathetic a lawyer Cohen is and how sleazy Trump is?
Did Trump have an affair with Stormy Daniels and will Trump be able to enforce the NDA? Did Trump lie about it? Is Trump still lying about it? Did Giuliani lie about it? Was the payoff an illegal campaign contribution? Did Trump pay a Playboy bunny 1.6 million dollars to get an abortion? Was Cohen a go between with the Russians? You use to argue that this case was going to get stuffed back in the box and Avenatti is an idiot. But it looks to me that both Avenatti and Stormy Daniels have profited significantly while Cohen and Trump are being exposed. You keep mocking Avenatti which I find hilarious as Avenatti seems to be winning on all fronts and your guys are all with their backs against the wall playing defense. Do you still think Trump can shut Daniels and Avenatti up? I don't. This looks like the tip of the proverbial iceberg. |
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It’s like nailing jello to a wall with Trump.
I would love to see him sat down and asked: 1) Is Michael Cohen currently your attorney? if not, up until what date was he so employed, and by what method was his employment terminated? 2) A few days ago you said the military had not had a raise in 10 years. What did you mean by that? Did you know it was untrue at the time you said it, and if so, what efforts have you taken to set the record straight with the American people? And so many other things. But those spring to mind right now. |
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I know what you mean. He sends his surrogates out there to tell one lie after another lie after another lie. He's playing the American people for fools with all this non-stop diahrea of lies. He's either attacking one person after another usually for exposing the truth or he's dangling another lie.
And this is OK? Take TBD for example. All he's been doing is attacking the messenger in Avenatti and never addressing the message. Trump has two skills, lying and cheating. And TBD and Logger thinks this is good. |
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