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Old 6th October 2017, 12:42 PM   #1201
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It's all about controlling women.
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Old 6th October 2017, 12:46 PM   #1202
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Donald Trump's government has issued a ruling that allows employers to opt out of providing free birth control to millions of Americans.
The rule allows employers and insurers to decline to provide birth control if doing so violates their "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions".

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, the top Republican in Congress, praised the decision as "a landmark day for religious liberty".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41528526

I kinda hope that establishing such an exception for "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions" gets taken down the path of unintended consequences.

The fundies need to learn that their peculiar, repressed flavor of Christianity does not comprise the only "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions" in the country.
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Old 6th October 2017, 12:51 PM   #1203
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
I kinda hope that establishing such an exception for "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions" gets taken down the path of unintended consequences.

The fundies need to learn that their peculiar, repressed flavor of Christianity does not comprise the only "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions" in the country.
Next up: Scientologist run organizations demanding health care plans that don't offer any psychiatric care. Given their teaching about psychiatrists I'd say that s as religiously defensible as refusing to cover birth control pills.

How many left-wing run outfits can use this to refuse to cover vaccinations?

It'll be interesting when some Christian Scientists refuse to offer ANY health coverage at all.
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Old 6th October 2017, 12:53 PM   #1204
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Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat View Post
The president “will pick the winning winning design” as well. Is there no end to the mans brilliance?
Does he even have the authority to do that?
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Old 6th October 2017, 12:59 PM   #1205
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
Does he even have the authority to do that?
Who will stand up and stop him if he doesn't?
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Old 6th October 2017, 12:59 PM   #1206
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
Has The Donald's hair gone white, or did he stop showering in Cheetos dust?
In late December he briefly tried on another look. It was blondish-silver (ash blond?) and the style was different. It made him better-looking, IMO, but he might have thought it made him look old.
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Old 6th October 2017, 01:13 PM   #1207
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
The interesting part is how the emails to Milo show central anti-feminism and misogyny are to the alt-right's appeal. It's like their gateway drug to racism.
That's because his part started in Gamergate, the "ethics in games journalism" crowd that actually spent an amazing amount of time harassing women online. I'd bet some of those Charlottesville white supremacists came out of that movement, too.

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Old 6th October 2017, 01:15 PM   #1208
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
Does he even have the authority to do that?
Depends on what the bill authorizing the wall says.
With all the crap Trump has one, making a fuss over this is pretty silly.
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Old 6th October 2017, 01:16 PM   #1209
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Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
That's because his part started in Gamergate, the "ethics in games journalism" crowd that actually spent an amazing amount of time harassing women online. I'd bet some of those Charlottesville white supremacists came out of that movement, too.
The right does not have a monopoly on harassing women. I give you Harvey Weinstein as an example.......
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Old 6th October 2017, 01:25 PM   #1210
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
The right does not have a monopoly on harassing women. I give you Harvey Weinstein as an example.......
Never said they did - and I didn't say all of Gamergate was on the right, either. Frankly, I suspect a lot of them didn't care much about politics. But they started as a group of angry gamers that harassed women like Zoe Quinn and Anita Saarkesian, likely for encroaching on "their" games.

Actually, Milo thought gaming was idiotic right up until this group started up, at which point he suddenly loved video games.
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Old 6th October 2017, 01:38 PM   #1211
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Depends on what the bill authorizing the wall says.
With all the crap Trump has one, making a fuss over this is pretty silly.
I'm not making a fuss over that, per se. Governments have purchasing laws they have to at least pretend to follow. It's Trump's normalization of his "emperor" status that bothers me. A lot of people wouldn't even question the idea that it's Trump's decision to make. Some big infrastructure project like that? It's the Deep State that executes those plans, not the CEO, because the projects take longer than any one president's tenure. There is supposed to be a fail-safe against having one person essentially dictate policy. The wall is not an executive order; it's a contract.

Right now they're just on prototypes and if the real wall as as butt-ugly as the one the BBC ran a picture of, the wall may lose some support. It's hideous, and it's not a solution at all, or even part of a solution. It's as if the designers made it as ugly as possible in order to drain support. Building a wall means a lot of other infrastructure projects aren't going to happen.

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Old 6th October 2017, 02:09 PM   #1212
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
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Right now they're just on prototypes and if the real wall as as butt-ugly as the one the BBC ran a picture of, the wall may lose some support. It's hideous, and it's not a solution at all, or even part of a solution. It's as if the designers made it as ugly as possible in order to drain support. Building a wall means a lot of other infrastructure projects aren't going to happen.

What tickled me when I saw that photo is that it is nothing but bog-standard precast panels. I could have taken that same photo at any of thousands of cheap, spec-built warehouse space put up by opportunistic developers everywhere.

There's a lot more that goes into preparing for those than just standing them up in a parking lot.
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Old 6th October 2017, 02:10 PM   #1213
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Sarah Huckabee Sanders just said that Donald Trump is " the one keeping the world from chaos".

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/1...43545?lo=ap_b1



Change the word "From" to "In" and she would be right....
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Old 6th October 2017, 02:14 PM   #1214
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Originally Posted by chrispy View Post
My family keeps asking if I ever plan to move back to the states. ''I'm cool here, thanks'' is my usual response.
To be fair, that avatar photo suggests some interesting issues. Maybe your family wants to get you help. Just a thought, no offense intended.
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Old 6th October 2017, 02:15 PM   #1215
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
To be fair, that avatar photo suggests some interesting issues. Maybe your family wants to get you help. Just a thought, no offense intended.
Hahahahaha. That is my favorite random internet photo ever. Plus, as a cat person, I find it disgustingly hilarious.
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Old 6th October 2017, 02:27 PM   #1216
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Sarah Huckabee Sanders just said that Donald Trump is " the one keeping the world from chaos".

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/1...43545?lo=ap_b1



Change the word "From" to "In" and she would be right....
That woman is incredible. She's so method she makes Daniel Day Lewis look like he's phoning it in.
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That woman is incredible. She's so method she makes Daniel Day Lewis look like he's phoning it in.
She's had lots of practice pretending that her dad's jokes are funny and her brother is a well adjusted person.
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Old 6th October 2017, 03:20 PM   #1218
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What an idiot. This costs him nothing. He might get more Democrats behind him if he supported it.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...en-did-nothing
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And another Hurricane is going to hit the US...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.679df5823fbf

Maybe Donnie can get a fight started with the Mayor of New Orleans....
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And another Hurricane is going to hit the US...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.679df5823fbf

Maybe Donnie can get a fight started with the Mayor of New Orleans....
He's a white male, so probably not. Even though he's a Democrat.
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And another Hurricane is going to hit the US...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.679df5823fbf

Maybe Donnie can get a fight started with the Mayor of New Orleans....
He's publicly criticized Trump on immigration in recent memory and there are rumors he might want to have a go at running for president next election so this could turn ugly very easily.
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Old 6th October 2017, 04:17 PM   #1222
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Sarah Huckabee Sanders just said that Donald Trump is " the one keeping the world from chaos".

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/1...43545?lo=ap_b1



Change the word "From" to "In" and she would be right....
Comical Ali would be proud.
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Old 6th October 2017, 04:29 PM   #1223
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Already posted in the health care reform thread, but it's yet another example of Trump pandering to his base:

Trump rolls back access to free birth control

This is a pathetic display even by Trump standards and a reminder he is doing real damage every day he remains in office.
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It's all about controlling women.
Yes, isn't it? These monkeys with shoes (h/t to Tim Minchin) barley conceal what they share with other primates. But the image below, because the primate has no hair, makes it a lot easier to imagine our deep connections to other primates.
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Yes, isn't it? These monkeys with shoes (h/t to Tim Minchin) barley conceal what they share with other primates. But the image below, because the primate has no hair, makes it a lot easier to imagine our deep connections to other primates.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Sarah Huckabee Sanders just said that Donald Trump is " the one keeping the world from chaos".

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/1...43545?lo=ap_b1



Change the word "From" to "In" and she would be right....
She also promised to "get back to you" on Trump's ridiculously false claim the US taxes are the highest in the world. Just today, mind you.
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She also promised to "get back to you" on Trump's ridiculously false claim the US taxes are the highest in the world. Just today, mind you.
If the news agencies were smarter they would start sending their most junior reporters to the White House press briefings. As the lying continues they should then send teenage interns. With no change they should then pool reporters with several agencies sharing one at the briefing, leaving lots of vacant chairs. I wonder if any of that would get noticed? Would Trump start claiming that his press briefings were attended by more reporters than any president's in history?
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Sarah Huckabee Sanders just said that Donald Trump is " the one keeping the world from chaos".

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/1...43545?lo=ap_b1



Change the word "From" to "In" and she would be right....
As to the first line above, idiots will be idiots (not to mention broken tools!!!!).
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CNN is reporting that Kelly might me nearing the breaking point;According to CNN, Wendesday Kelly told Trump, after Trumps temper tantrum over Tillerson calling him a moron,that if Tillerson left it would be very hard for him to function as chief of staff.
Since the universal opinion is that Tillerson as SOS is a dead man walking, You could have a double exit...............
Then as far as Chaos goes, we ain't seen nothing yet...
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This resolution was not for against the death penalty. It was for or against the execution of LGBT. Specifically, it was about the discriminatory use of the death penalty against LGBT.
I'm a bit late but I want to make it clear that the resolution was about more than LGBT rights:

Quote:
The Human Rights Council resolution condemned the “imposition of the death penalty as a sanction for specific forms of conduct, such as apostasy, blasphemy, adultery and consensual same-sex relations”.

It attacked the use of execution against persons with “mental or intellectual disabilities, persons below 18 years of age at the time of the commission of the crime, and pregnant women”.

It also expressed “serious concern that the application of the death penalty for adultery is disproportionately imposed on women”.
Linky-poo.

As a sexist aside, the spokeswoman in the video on that page is a real looker.
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Wonder if Donnie will tweet on the Tim Murphy scandal:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/1...istress-243456

In a year that sets new records in hypocrisy, Murphy manages to really stand out....
Look at his left hand in that picture. See the hole where he was nailed to a cross as penance for his sin.
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Trump is going to scrap the Treaty with Iran.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-pla...191726673.html

Now we need a sort of gallows humor betting pool going:Which will Trump get us into a war with first:North Korea or Iran?

And we will not have an ally left in the world the way Trump is going.
This decision was a real downer for me. Worse than almost all others, except maybe his nomination of Pruitt. If he follows through, he's putting a match to the whole Middle East, if not the world. I'm to the point where even Pence would be an acceptable alternative.
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A couple of prototype wall sections in this short BBC report.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-u...er-wall-appear

Instead of being see-through and innovative, they look like big slabs of concrete to me - just like the Berlin wall.
To me they look exactly like walls of industrial/commercial buildings under construction here. If that stuff was "designed" for Trump's wall, I'll eat the concrete.
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Well, that's not very reassuring. Althought being Trump it might just be bluster again.
More than "might be" as stated here and here.
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CNN is reporting that Kelly might me nearing the breaking point;According to CNN, Wendesday Kelly told Trump, after Trumps temper tantrum over Tillerson calling him a moron,that if Tillerson left it would be very hard for him to function as chief of staff.
Since the universal opinion is that Tillerson as SOS is a dead man walking, You could have a double exit...............
Then as far as Chaos goes, we ain't seen nothing yet...
A Kelly-less WH, uff da.
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To me they look exactly like walls of industrial/commercial buildings under construction here. If that stuff was "designed" for Trump's wall, I'll eat the concrete.

Exactly.
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What an idiot.
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A Kelly-less WH, uff da.
One man keeping America from going full loon.
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Old 7th October 2017, 04:38 AM   #1239
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
CNN is reporting that Kelly might me nearing the breaking point;According to CNN, Wendesday Kelly told Trump, after Trumps temper tantrum over Tillerson calling him a moron,that if Tillerson left it would be very hard for him to function as chief of staff.
Since the universal opinion is that Tillerson as SOS is a dead man walking, You could have a double exit...............
Then as far as Chaos goes, we ain't seen nothing yet...
IMO he/they will not quit. They have shown time and again that they are lickspittle lackeys willing to put up with all kinds of abuse to stay close to power - and further the far right agenda.

It's too late for any of them to grow a spine now....


Eta.....

They're touted as the voices of reason curbing his baser urges - I have yet to see evidence for that.

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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Jobs numbers down this month for the 1st time in 7 years. More winning!
I'm sure the Mercers actually find this good news. It's only the part-time and casual workers who work on the clock, after all. No brokers, bond dealers, developers, hedge fund managers - you know... the RIGHT people ... are out of work.
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