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Old 12th October 2017, 08:11 AM   #1481
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Well the one thing we can be sure of is that it isn't because of all the brown people in Puerto Rico, because President Trump has assured us that he is the least racist person in the world
This is true, when he looks at Puerto Rico he doesn't see brown Americans, he sees Americans with zero electoral votes.
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Old 12th October 2017, 08:11 AM   #1482
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Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd View Post
The way he keeps bringing it up, I'd guess it's their debt that has him so annoyed for some reason. It seems like that's the difference he sees, anyway.
Well thank goodness that neither of those states have any debt
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Old 12th October 2017, 08:13 AM   #1483
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If America can’t afford to look after it’s own then it cannot afford tax cuts.
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Old 12th October 2017, 08:16 AM   #1484
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Apparently talk of 25th amendment solutions isn't limited to Internet forums. Bannon is reported to have told Trump that the 25th would be the nitwit-in-chief's undoing. To which, unsurprisingly, Trump replied "What's that?"
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Old 12th October 2017, 08:17 AM   #1485
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If America can’t afford to look after it’s own then it cannot afford tax cuts.
You just don't understand. The tax cuts ARE America taking care of its own... its own rich people.
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Old 12th October 2017, 08:20 AM   #1486
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You just don't understand. The tax cuts ARE America taking care of its own... its own rich people.
It’s a fairly limited constituency but large fan base the GOP has.
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Old 12th October 2017, 08:37 AM   #1487
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FEMA and the military are still in Texas and Florida but he isn't threatening them. What makes Puerto Rico different?


Not enough white people.
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Old 12th October 2017, 09:41 AM   #1488
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Originally Posted by halleyscomet View Post
Not enough white people.
I think it's more than that...


Originally Posted by Spindrift View Post
This is true, when he looks at Puerto Rico he doesn't see brown Americans, he sees Americans with zero electoral votes.
More along those lines
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Old 12th October 2017, 09:48 AM   #1489
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Originally Posted by TofuFighter View Post
If any of this is true, I would expect WH staff to organise one or two campaign-style rallies for Trump in the next short period of time. It's the only thing that cheers him up and makes him feel sane.
He was absolutely basking in the (extended) applause today just before signing the Executive Order.

Basking.
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:18 AM   #1490
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Trump threatening to end aid to Puerto Rico:
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President Trump served notice Thursday that he may pull back federal relief workers from Puerto Rico, effectively threatening to abandon the U.S. territory amid a staggering humanitarian crisis in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nders-forever/

I hope the Chinese seize the moment and start sending their own assistance.
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:20 AM   #1491
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Trump threatening to end aid to Puerto Rico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nders-forever/

I hope the Chinese seize the moment and start sending their own assistance.
Is it a threat? It seems like a true statement that we cannot keep fema there forever. Forever is a long time.
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:23 AM   #1492
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Is it a threat? It seems like a true statement that we cannot keep fema there forever. Forever is a long time.
Yes, but that is because you are *painfully* literal.

Trump has not said the same about Texas or Florida, which were more lightly hit, and more resilient and which had been hit earlier.

It's almost as though Puerto Rico has no Senators or Representatives, or electoral college votes to influence Trump.
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:28 AM   #1493
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Is it a threat? It seems like a true statement that we cannot keep fema there forever. Forever is a long time.
You understand -- maybe unlike Trump -- that PR is part of the U.S., right? Is anybody talking about the federal government abandoning Texas, Florida, Louisiana?
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:32 AM   #1494
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You understand -- maybe unlike Trump -- that PR is part of the U.S., right? Is anybody talking about the federal government abandoning Texas, Florida, Louisiana?
I am quite confident fema will not be in those places forever.
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I am quite confident fema will not be in those places forever.
That's good but that's not the point.
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That's good but that's not the point.
What was the point? That no one is talking about it? Whether fema will be in any of these locations forever seems to be the point.
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:51 AM   #1497
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What was the point? That no one is talking about it? Whether fema will be in any of these locations forever seems to be the point.
Nope, not the point whatsoever. No one ever suggested that FEMA should be anywhere forever.
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Nope, not the point whatsoever. No one ever suggested that FEMA should be anywhere forever.
Then there is nothing wrong with Trump pointing that out.
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:58 AM   #1499
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Do you understand an implied threat?
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Do you understand an implied threat?
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Old 12th October 2017, 11:02 AM   #1501
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No.
Well we can't discuss this forever.
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Apparently talk of 25th amendment solutions isn't limited to Internet forums. Bannon is reported to have told Trump that the 25th would be the nitwit-in-chief's undoing. To which, unsurprisingly, Trump replied "What's that?"
The killer in the 25th Admendment is that it does not have be the Cabinent that removes the President.it can also be "of such other body as Congress may by law provide, ".
In other words, the Congress can pass a law, create a group. and remove the POTUS.
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Old 12th October 2017, 11:19 AM   #1503
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The killer in the 25th Admendment is that it does not have be the Cabinent that removes the President.it can also be "of such other body as Congress may by law provide, ".
In other words, the Congress can pass a law, create a group. and remove the POTUS.
If you're going to do that, might as well impeach. They'd have to override a veto to create the body.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
The killer in the 25th Admendment is that it does not have be the Cabinent that removes the President.it can also be "of such other body as Congress may by law provide, ".
In other words, the Congress can pass a law, create a group. and remove the POTUS.
And I can win Powerball on Saturday!
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John Kelly, apologizer in chief, lying his way through a press conference right now pretending Trump is a great POTUS.
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The killer in the 25th Admendment is that it does not have be the Cabinent that removes the President.it can also be "of such other body as Congress may by law provide, ".
In other words, the Congress can pass a law, create a group. and remove the POTUS.
And they won't, for the same reason that they won't impeach.

Trump's there to stay.
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And they won't, for the same reason that they won't impeach.

Trump's there to stay.
People said the same thing about Nixon.........
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With the key difference being that Trump's congress is of the same party as he is, and that politics in the US are a lot more polarized and partisan.
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With the key difference being that Trump's congress is of the same party as he is, and that politics in the US are a lot more polarized and partisan.
Then this country days as a democracy are numbered.
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It's unfortunately a non-zero probability.
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With the key difference being that Trump's congress is of the same party as he is, and that politics in the US are a lot more polarized and partisan.
Yeah, if Watergate happened today, people would be earnestly arguing that office breakins are a perfectly legitimate way to conduct a campaign, and besides something something Obummer.
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Very poor results from the 2018 election, or the conclusion of Mueller's investigation implicating Trump are the only things that might finish Trump.

We're stuck for at least a year
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Very poor results from the 2018 election, or the conclusion of Mueller's investigation implicating Trump are the only things that might finish Trump.

We're stuck for at least a year
I would add a serious international crisis being massively mishandled by Trump, risking or even costing US lives by blundering.
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Yeah, if Watergate happened today, people would be earnestly arguing that office breakins are a perfectly legitimate way to conduct a campaign, and besides something something Obummer e-mails.
Fixed.
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Old 12th October 2017, 11:54 AM   #1515
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Very poor results from the 2018 election, or the conclusion of Mueller's investigation implicating Trump are the only things that might finish Trump.

We're stuck for at least a year
It would be kind of messed up if Mueller exonerated Trump but a democratic majority went for impeachment. I think they are going to stick to a "high crimes" rather than terrible at the job.
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It would be kind of messed up if Mueller exonerated Trump but a democratic majority went for impeachment. I think they are going to stick to a "high crimes" rather than terrible at the job.
There is no Democratic majority and despite Trump's best effort, I don't think there will be one in 2018.
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It would be kind of messed up if Mueller exonerated Trump but a democratic majority went for impeachment. I think they are going to stick to a "high crimes" rather than terrible at the job.
It would be ironic, but not messed up.

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There is plenty to impeach Trump with - especially compared to Bill Clinton.
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John Kelly, apologizer in chief, lying his way through a press conference right now pretending Trump is a great POTUS.
Rumors about he is going to resign as chief of staff now that his underling (can't recall her name) was just appointed as Sec. of Homeland Security. He didn't want her to get caught in the crossfire of his resignation.
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It would be ironic, but not messed up.




There is plenty to impeach Trump with - especially compared to Bill Clinton.
But Clinton is an example with the independent investigator with an open mandate brought a charge. I propose a scenario where Mueller does not do that on anything.
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And yet Israel remains a member of UNESCO. It's a good thing they have us to tell them who is against them. I'm sure they'll be withdrawing any minute...

You are right, they just did that:
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Hours later, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel would quit too, calling the U.S. decision “brave and moral”. (Source)
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