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Old 2nd October 2017, 03:11 AM   #41
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Or maybe not - who knows at this point?
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Old 2nd October 2017, 03:11 AM   #42
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Long bursts. Maybe something belt fed?
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Old 2nd October 2017, 03:18 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by fagin View Post
Perhaps he'll dedicate a golf trophy to the victims?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-dedi...231533084.html

"As millions of Puerto Ricans struggle to recover from Hurricane Maria, President Donald Trump attended a golfing event Sunday. And just in case anyone was going to go after him for not paying attention to the disaster, he attempted to pre-empt the criticism: He dedicated the trophy to the victims of the storm."
It is the first mass shooting of his presidency, so how will he react to gun control calls?

I would not put it past him to pretty much ignore the situation and for him to make only a flippant gesture.
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Originally Posted by Travis View Post
Steven Paddock? Just heard the name on the news. Might be getting it wrong.

Unfortunately for the conservatives of the forum it is not a Muslim name.
That's the name listed at the woman's address. There were 2 other names the amateur sleuths were posting as possible suspects. All were over 60 and white - so it is very likely to be an older white male.
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Or a drum. The length of the bursts and the pauses would be consistent with a drum.
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Old 2nd October 2017, 03:21 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by Travis View Post
Steven Paddock? Just heard the name on the news. Might be getting it wrong.

Unfortunately for the conservatives of the forum it is not a Muslim name.
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/914796580796092416
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Old 2nd October 2017, 03:23 AM   #47
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SWAT audio said
"Suspect down, multiple firearms.This is definitely the guy firing into the crowd."
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Old 2nd October 2017, 03:23 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Matthew Best View Post
Apparently, the shooter is "a fan of the The Rachel Maddow Show and liked several pages on Facebook including Thank You Obama, Anti-Trump Army, Progressive Day, Organizing for Action, Not My President, Proud to Be A Democrat, Fight Trump, Boycott All Things Trump, and Impeach Trump. He is a Democrat and is registered to vote in Washoe County, Nevada."
Or someone spoofed a social media page.
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Old 2nd October 2017, 03:26 AM   #49
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Old 2nd October 2017, 03:36 AM   #50
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50+ dead now.
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What? 50???
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Sheriff Joseph Lombardo confirmed the suspect is Stephen Paddock and said more than 50 dead and over 200 wounded.
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Originally Posted by Travis View Post
50+ dead now.
Source?

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Police reporting at least 50 dead
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Marilou has been found
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Source?

Sorry. I don't doubt you. Just wondering
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/914801333189869568
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They found Marilou.

@LVMPD twitter:

"We have located the vehicles in question, and we are confident we have located the female person of interest."
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Do we yet know *why* she was of interest?
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I believe she was identified as being the partner of the suspect.
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According to fox "64-year-old Stephen Paddock" is the killer.
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Do we yet know *why* she was of interest?
She lives at the same address. Her casino players card was in the shooter's room.
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That makes it the worst mass shooting in US history.
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A little background on the shooter:
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Police there [in Mesquite] told CBS News the suspect was white, in his 60s, had been living in a retirement community and hadn’t had any run-ins with law enforcement. He wasn’t a veteran, Mesquite police added.
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I wonder if Trump will say there was fault on both sides?
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CNN is saying "at least" 50 dead.
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That makes it the worst mass shooting in US history.
CNN says you're right, with the previous record holder being the 49 deaths in the Orlando gay nightclub shooting of last year.
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That makes it the worst mass shooting in US history.
Don't worry we will top it next year.
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Don't worry we will top it next year.
Weirdly, that is not helping me to not worry.
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The only other full auto incident I can remember is that North Hollywood bank robbery in that late 1990's.
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It is the first mass shooting of his presidency, so how will he react to gun control calls?

I would not put it past him to pretty much ignore the situation and for him to make only a flippant gesture.
No it is not the first mass shooting. There was a church shooting near Nashville, Tennessee a couple of weeks ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/29/u...e.html?mcubz=0
The media has decided it was revenge for that Dylan Roof ******* so it's alright. Plus nearly 30 in Chicago this year, but that's all right too for some reason.
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Don't worry we will top it next year.
I tried not to laugh.

I really really did

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I tried not to laugh.

I really really did

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An unbelievable death toll. I just looked up the Nevada gun laws and discovered it's legal to carry an assault rifle. Why on earth would your average citizen need one of those!

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As a mild country music fan myself (Gram Parsons, Flying Burrito Brothers, Byrds, Eagles, Rockingbirds) who visited the Country Music Hall of Fame in Nashville and had a fantastic time, I am mortified that a country music festival should be targeted. I get that many people hate this genre, but what have the concert attendees ever done to deserve this...?

It's just incomprehensible.
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An unbelievable death toll. I just looked up the Nevada gun laws and discovered it's legal to carry an assault rifle. Why on earth would your average citizen need one of those!

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Nevada follows federal law actually, which heavily regulates machine guns.

Since it's very hard to get a machine gun, I'm going to guess that we have an illegal conversion.
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I wonder if Trump will say there was fault on both sides?
I thought the same thing but decided not to post, lest someone take issue with it. Good to see you tested the waters for me.
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The distance from the hotel to the concert site was not a simple matter of shooting straight down. He must have had this set up and aimed with some planning.
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NRS 202.350  Manufacture, importation, possession or use of dangerous weapon or silencer; carrying concealed weapon without permit; penalties; issuance of permit to carry concealed weapon; exceptions.

1.  Except as otherwise provided in this section and NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive, a person within this State shall not:

(a) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend or possess any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sand-club, sandbag or metal knuckles;

(b) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend, possess or use a machine gun or a silencer, unless authorized by federal law;

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