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Old 31st December 2014, 08:10 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by foophil View Post
I have another question for you - how hot is too hot for water and the point at which it becomes 'death water'? Is it only once it reaches the point of boiling? 60 Celsius is pretty hot. It would certainly damage a human if they were in it too long. That is how hot water is in many people's hot water heater around the world. Yet the world doesn't seem to be dying off because of it.
Early death by heart attack and stroke are common in first world where a hot water tank is common.
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
Because the hot water kills many useful ingredients of every food and the raw water do not kills them.
Define what you mean by "kills".

How hot does the water have to be?

What are some "useful ingredients of every food"?

Define "raw water". Where do you get it?
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It's true that boiling vegetables can remove some of the water soluble nutrients they contain, which is why steaming is often recommended as a healthier way of cooking them. The water itself is not unhealthy, though, in fact it now contains those nutrients. That's why I always use the water from boiled vegetables to make the gravy.
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Old 31st December 2014, 08:42 AM   #164
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Does it have to be Saturday?
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Old 31st December 2014, 08:55 AM   #165
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Originally Posted by Pixel42 View Post
It's true that boiling vegetables can remove some of the water soluble nutrients they contain, which is why steaming is often recommended as a healthier way of cooking them. The water itself is not unhealthy, though, in fact it now contains those nutrients. That's why I always use the water from boiled vegetables to make the gravy.
That's what I use the water for as well. I also keep and freeze left over water used to boil potatoes, corn, peas. I use it when I make chicken or beef stock/soup.

I imagine you could also use it to cook rice in thus retaining the veggie nutrients.
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Firstly, please know that even to a poorly educated layman, such as myself, I worry that your diet plan is going to put you in poor health if you persist with it.
You will surprised but I do not absolutely persist with it.
To tell you the truth I am so lazy person that if even a little problem was in this project I was stop it immediately.
But it goes very very easy and it is the only reason why I did not stop my lifestyle to eat only in the 7th Day of every week.
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You are absolutely sure that this diet of yours will catch on even though doctors such as your cousin don't approve of it?
The Diet of New Saturday is God present for my Global Social Project “New Saturday”
Good health that it gives cost more than billions of dollars.
I wish and I really can to share with my good health with the most of people.
My diet and great increasing of my health is the real fact.
Specialists have not to approve or not approve it.
They have to explain scientifically the reasons of this absolutely realistic fact.

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You might want to rethink your 'Becoming a Billionaire' strategy there, friend.
The Diet of New Saturday is God present for my Global Social Project “New Saturday”
Good health that it gives cost more than billions of dollars.
I wish and I really can to share with my good health with the most of people.

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There's no way this can be good for your digestive system. You also might want to rethink your Nobel strategy.
The peristaltic catharsis of the 7th Day gives the brilliant improvement to digestive system.
It is the great discovery and I am sure that it cast Nobel.
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How, exactly, do you know these things? It's my understanding that if one consumes more calories than one burns, then weight gain will result. And if one burns more than they consume, weight loss will result. What could your unadvisable diet plan do to help addictions?
If the man do not eat all day he loses ¼ - 1/3 lb of fat.
It means 1.5 – 2 lb. of fat in 6 days. 1 lb of human being fat has 3170 – 4077 kcal. It means that a man needs to eat in a week time maximum 8154 kcal of food to balance his weight in a stable state. I eat in the 7th Day 7000 – 8000 kcal. It is 2 times less then a man usually eats in a week time.
My organism makes 500 kinds of opiates in 6 days without food. Because those natural drugs have maximally possible quality and needful quantity they will surely displace very bad drugs and even very good drugs that drug addicts buy.
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Three months of malnutrition resulting in weight loss doesn't seem unusual (or wise) to me.

Did PeaceCrusader?
I have lost 95 lb. for 5 first months of my diet and for the last 4 months my weight is stable 161 lb.
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I really don't think your régime, wise as it seems to me, could achieve each day the formidable results of the Great Peristaltic Catharsis, to wit
Even medical fasting and yogis cleaning methods can’t reach 10% of it.
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Nor do I think anyone would wish to produce this "factory" output in consequence of a "brisk walk", unless the walking area was well provided with public conveniences.
This “factory” produces not only those amounts of fat, urine, and feces but also 2 lb of “natural alkaloid whisky” and 500 kinds of opiates that give great health and creative enlistments to me.
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If it does, it will be posthumously.
I hope that "Diet of New Saturday" will give me the ability to be alive till my Nobel and after I will get it.
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20% of people who lose weight keep it off
I'm prepared to bet that not a single one of them used your diet.
OK!
What about 80% of others who have lost huge energy and nervous and have come back to their overweight?
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Your diet is not very very easy, plus it's disgusting. Nobody would even consider it without some very compelling evidence that it is (a) safe and (b) not just effective but significantly more effective than the many other far easier diets
You are right.
The key question is the rank of “easy ability” of different diets.
After 9 months of my own experience I am absolutely sure that my diet will get the 1 place on this parameter and on others positive parameters too. The first group of volunteer will prove everything if my own experience is not enoph.
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I already told you. Reach your hundredth birthday on this diet and people might start to seriously consider that you're on to something. But even then the number of people who you could convince to emulate you would be negligible.
If it will be not enough I will take another woman of the same age that is on my diet and we will make some very healthy children as Abraham and Sarah did.
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
Even medical fasting and yogis cleaning methods can’t reach 10% of it.

This “factory” produces not only those amounts of fat, urine, and feces but also 2 lb of “natural alkaloid whisky” and 500 kinds of opiates that give great health and creative enlistments to me.
In addition to many kilograms of faeces and urine, this catharsis produces 2 pounds weight of "alkaloid whisky"!

Is that why you soak and then consume four pounds of grain as fifteen pounds of mash? Because that sort of ingredient is used here in Scotland in whisky distilleries. However, I have a problem. That 2 lb is almost a litre of whisky. So on top of the huge amount of food, you body is coping with enough whisky to keep a hardened boozer intoxicated all day.

Can that be a healthy diet? I do not think so.
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Old 1st January 2015, 05:45 AM   #171
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We already know that mice will starve to death if left even a couple of days without food. To even attempt such an experiment would be a prosecutable offence in most civilised countries.
Now I am really happy that I did this experiment on myself and did not put any mice in life dangerous risk.
I agree that we need to know the time of “mice week”.
May be it is 1/6 – 1/7 of “man’s week” because a man dies without food after 40 days.
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
OK!
What about 80% of others who have lost huge energy and nervous and have come back to their overweight?
What about them? If they can't keep to the simple diet that enabled them to lose the weight in the first place they're certainly not going to be able to keep to one that requires them to not eat at all for six days of every week.

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The first group of volunteer will prove everything if my own experience is not enoph.
You have yet to find a single volunteer, let alone a group.

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If it will be not enough I will take another woman of the same age that is on my diet and we will make some very healthy children as Abraham and Sarah did.
That would certainly be enough to generate some interest in your diet, your problem will be finding a suitable volunteer. I'm the right age and sex, but I will not be volunteering.
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OK!If it will be not enough I will take another woman of the same age that is on my diet and we will make some very healthy children as Abraham and Sarah did.
Well I hope you don't do this!
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Abram and Sarai tried to make sense of how he would become a progenitor of nations since after 10 years of living in Canaan, no child had been born from Abram's seed. Sarai then offered her Egyptian handmaiden, Hagar, for Abram to consort with so that he may have a child by her, as a wife. After Hagar found she was pregnant, she began to despise her mistress, Sarai. Therefore, Sarai mistreated Hagar, and Hagar fled away
As Genesis 16 tells us:
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5 Then Sarai said to Abram, “You are responsible for the wrong I am suffering. I put my slave in your arms, and now that she knows she is pregnant, she despises me. May the Lord judge between you and me.” 6 “Your slave is in your hands,” Abram said. “Do with her whatever you think best.” Then Sarai mistreated Hagar; so she fled from her. 7 The angel of the Lord found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, “Hagar, slave of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?” “I’m running away from my mistress Sarai,” she answered. 9 Then the angel of the Lord told her, “Go back to your mistress and submit to her.” 10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”
As a secular person you will agree that these are horrible primitive stories, and I hope that following your diet won't make bad things like that happen to people.

I think Pixel42 is quite right to want to stay out of these sort of activities altogether.
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Early death by heart attack and stroke are common in first world where a hot water tank is common.

Ahhh, but aren't we living longer these days than before we invented hot water heaters?
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I hope that "Diet of New Saturday" will give me the ability to be alive till my Nobel and after I will get it.
I know I'm going to regret asking this but, why do you think you'll get the Nobel Prize and in what category?
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Busy this morning, I have not read the whole thread, but it seems to provide a good object lesson in how crazy diets can cause hallucination.

For my own part, if I have to starve in the desert in order to meet God , then to hell with him. Let him show up on my morning toast like a civilized savior.
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post

But for our practical needs we have to take 3 groups of mouses.
To the first group we have to give the normal ration of food every day.
To the second - half of normal ration every day.
To the third - half of week normal ration that was in raw water and to eat it only one day a week .
If the average life of the third group will be more than the average life of others it will prove that "Diet of New Saturday" has the potential of wide using.
When did you perform this experiment?
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My organism makes 500 kinds of opiates in 6 days without food.
Could you list them?
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Ahhh, but aren't we living longer these days than before we invented hot water heaters?
Why do we need to heat hot water? Its already hot?

The advent of hot water tanks/water heaters coincided with increased human longevity. Conversely so did the advent of home refrigerators.
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When did/will you perform this experiment?
FTFY
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Restaurant owners might not be too happy if this takes off, they'll only be able to open one day a week. Be very wary of any clowns that appear to be following you.
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FTFY
Well he said what the outcome will be, so I assume he's already done it himself, right?
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Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
Why do we need to heat hot water? Its already hot?

The advent of hot water tanks/water heaters coincided with increased human longevity. Conversely so did the advent of home refrigerators.
Oh... my... GAWD! You are right!!!

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This “factory” produces not only those amounts of fat, urine, and feces but also 2 lb of “natural alkaloid whisky” and 500 kinds of opiates that give great health and creative enlistments to me.
Being a homebrewer, I understand something of fermentation - 4 pounds of grains soaked in water will indeed give you a mash suitable for fermentation, but you will be lacking several ingredients for fermentation - yeast, the correct temperature and time. It is possible that there are wild yeasts in your food preparation area, but unless the correct temperature exists for that yeast to start consuming the sugars in your foods into alcohol, nothing is going to happen, and even if it does start there will not be a significant amount of time for fermentation to actually occur.

For example, when I brew my heather beer, I use 5 pounds of grains and about 35 litres of water to get 23 litres of wort (beer prior to fermentation). Prior to getting the wort to ferment it needs to be cooled to between 18 and 23 degrees Celcius, then the yeast can be introduced and fermentation will then start in about 4.5 to 12 hours. Now, I'm adding 11g of yeast, which is over 2,000,000 yeast cells, to start the fermentation which will take at least 2 weeks to complete, yielding a 4-5% ABV beer. It is still not a whisky - whiskies undergo a further process after fermentation is complete called distillation.

The human digestive system works too quickly and at too high a temperature for fermentation to take place, and the human body simply cannot carry out the process of distillation.

Your claim that you produce 2 pounds of an "alkaloid whiskey`` per week is false.
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Your claim that you produce 2 pounds of an "alkaloid whiskey`` per week is false.
,, and as yet, unsubstantiated.
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I am on my diet 9 months.
For last 3.5 months my weight is stable.
In the beginning of Saturday it is 161 lb.
In the end of Saturday it is 170 lb.
My cousin gastric doctor with 40 years experience.
She predicted the imminent death of me yet 8 months ago.
Today, she and her friends - doctors do not believe that I can easily keep my diet just because it gives me a very good health and high creative and spirit abilities.
I'm going to need more than your word on it if I;m going to consider you anything but a prankster.

Where's the evidence of your food intake and weigh-ins?

Have you been monitoring your iron, cholesterol and assorted micro-nutrient levels?

How often are you testing your blood sugar? Your "diet" should result in spikes in blood sugar levels. What do you do to counter this?
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Originally Posted by halleyscomet View Post
I'm going to need more than your word on it if I;m going to consider you anything but a prankster.

Where's the evidence of your food intake and weigh-ins?

Have you been monitoring your iron, cholesterol and assorted micro-nutrient levels?

How often are you testing your blood sugar? Your "diet" should result in spikes in blood sugar levels. What do you do to counter this?
In addition to the dubiousness of the diet itself we have yet to see much evidence of "high creative and spirit abilities" in a form recognizable to most.
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I had cancer. Had surgery and was in hospital for 10 days post-op, 2 of which were IV fluids only followed by 3 days liquid diet only. Lost 20 pounds, kept 15 of those off since then (10+ years).

I do not recommend it as a weight reduction plan though.
I wish you a good health.
It is just my hypothesis.
The "Diet of New Saturday" can give ability of increasing the limit doses of chemical therapy and in this way to high up level of positive results.
I think so because I know that in Germany some doctores use medical fasting together with chemical therapy to fight with cancer.
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I wonder if your cat would feel the benefits of only being fed every seventh day. Or would that come under some sort of animal cruelty/abuse?
I think we have to take wild cats and wild dogs from wild nature.
Every time it have to be near them two bowls full one and boiled water and another of of raw water.
So it will be clear what water they preferred.
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
I think we have to take wild cats and wild dogs from wild nature.

Every time it have to be near them two bowls full one and boiled water and another of of raw water.

So it will be clear what water they preferred.

If my dog is indicative whichever one is closest will be consumed first, then the other one will go down.

Wild carnivores are opportunistic feeders - they will eat as often as they can, and drinking depending on the availability of water.
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This diet reminds me of a joke Steven Pinker tells his new writing manual, The Sense of Style, about "a peddler who decided to train his horse to get by without eating. 'First I fed him every other day, and he did just fine. Then I fed him every third day. Then every fourth day. But just as I was getting him down to one meal a week, he died on me!'."

The joke was an allegorical warning against taking the rule in writing, "Omit needless words," to excess. The analogy to human dieting is obvious.
This peddler has made just one mistake.
He had to give to his horse not one meal one day a week but half of weakly norm in the 7th Day.

The same way as Earth (Adoma) according Bible takes it's energy from God every 7th year to give it to the people for others 6 years - a man (Adom) has to eat every 7th Day and to give his energy for his work for other 6 days of week.
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Abuse and six days of constant demanding meows.
If for Earth (Adoma) "the 7 th Day" is "The 7th Year of 7 years' period" for cat "the 7th Day" can be "every 7 hours from every 49 hours".
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
The same way as Earth (Adoma) according Bible takes it's energy from God every 7th year to give it to the people for others 6 years - a man (Adom) has to eat every 7th Day and to give his energy for his work for other 6 days of week.
How can such a absurd statement come from a "secular" person? There is nothing special about these days or weeks. This is an ancient Israelite custom, presumably derived from the observation that leaving land fallow for a year every so often improves fertility.

This was explained by ancient priests as a god magically restoring the fertility of the soil. But we know now why it happens, and it is not at all supernatural.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 03:27 AM   #194
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Originally Posted by Pixel42 View Post
Maybe you can provide a link to a scientific recommendation not to give your cat or your dog previously boiled water to drink? I have never come across any such recommendation, and I would certainly expect to have done so if there was any evidence whatsoever that it was harmful.
Unfortunately I can't find any recommendation to give raw water to drink to home animals.
But the raw foodists drink principally only raw water.
They have problems with proteins but because they eat every day long their food.
They have to eat it once in 2 - 3 days.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 03:42 AM   #195
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I thought you were "secular". Anyway, if God taught you how to produce 2 - 2.5 lb of fat, 4 -4.5 lb of feces and 1.1 gallon of urine in a single day, that proves that God still works miracles.
We have to give more attention to the Bible.
It is written there not sowing the land every 7th year if you want to get a good harvest for the next 6 years.
The same proportion has a man according my discovery.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 04:03 AM   #196
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
Unfortunately I can't find any recommendation to give raw water to drink to home animals.
So there's no reason to think giving them previously boiled water is harmful, and every reason (actual examples of animals being given previously boiled water and coming to no harm whatsoever) to think it isn't. So are you now going to abandon this silly belief?

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But the raw foodists drink principally only raw water.
They have problems with proteins but because they eat every day long their food.
They have to eat it once in 2 - 3 days.
Most of what "raw foodists" say and do is nonsense. Pay no attention to them.

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We have to give more attention to the Bible.
No, we really don't.

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It is written there not sowing the land every 7th year if you want to get a good harvest for the next 6 years.
We don't need the Bible to tell us this.

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The same proportion has a man according my discovery.
If your diet was the same proportion you would be eating for six days and not eating every seventh. Your "discovery" is actually the exact opposite of this Bible recommendation.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 04:18 AM   #197
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Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
You have a colonoscopy/endoscope or barium enema test to show that it clears the entire stomach, small intestine, and colon?
or as usual is this just your guess?
In my life, I was cleaning the stomach by enemas, by Epsom salts and by other ways.
It is absolutely impossible even to compare with Peristaltic Catharsis of the 7th Day.
Just after 4 - 8 hours after you has eaten your food you see it in form of feces.
So it is absolutely clear that I have the great cleansing of the entire stomach, small intestine, and colon 7 times in the 7th Day.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 04:50 AM   #198
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
A large python has no the Great Peristaltic Catharsis of the 7th Day that makes me able to eat 20 lb for 25 sometimes 30 hours of my Saturday.
My organism as a factory produces in Saturday 2 - 2.5 lb of fat, 4 -4.5 lb of feces and 1.1 gallon of urine.
2 - 2.5 lb of fat is absolutely enough me to be full of energy for 6 days without eating.
My weight is stable and in dynamic balance.
I hope that the discovery of Peristaltic Catharsis of the 7th Day will bring me the Nobel Prize.
May I just add that I'd hate to clean the bowl after a "Great Peristaltic Catharsis" event.
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Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
or perhaps its 6 pounds of feces but only 4.5 pounds exits on Saturday.
Yes.
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