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Old 11th December 2018, 03:41 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
The French just like to protest - even though much like Occupy Wall Street, they don't really have any fixable grievances.
It's an old French custom.
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Old 11th December 2018, 08:45 PM   #82
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So Macron held a speech to La Nation yesterday evening, saying mea culpa and promising social benefit goodies worth ten billion euros, the source of which yet undeclared. This is remarkable and a sign for everybody who thought taking it to the streets is futile. If you got the French's stamina...
Not really, turns out those social benefits are 1) not actually as advertised and 2) already part of his reforms. He basically took a small part of his already-existing reforms and presented it in a highly misleading fashion to make it appear he was making concessions. I guess I don't have to tell you how this went over after people figured it out. Acte V, on lache rien!
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Old 11th December 2018, 08:48 PM   #83
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The Atlantic Council? I had no idea their propaganda could be so crude, transparent, and primitive.
I suppose it's layered, covering all bases. The Atlantic Council itself for the more serious claims, Bellingcat for the conspirational stuff which is still somewhat vaguely plausible and then PropOrNot for the nutjob stuff.
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Old 14th December 2018, 06:55 AM   #84
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CJ Hopkins' (as usually) hilarious take on the movement and its coverage in "Western" mainstream press: The Indiscreet Charm of the Gilets Jaunes

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[...] By Sunday, the corporate media were insinuating that diabolical Russian Facebook bots had brainwashed the French into running amok, because who else could possibly be responsible? Certainly not the French people themselves! The French, as every American knows, are by nature a cowardly, cheese-eating people, who have never overthrown their rightful rulers, or publicly beheaded the aristocracy. No, the French were just sitting there, smoking like chimneys, and otherwise enjoying their debt-enslavement and the privatization of their social democracy, until they unsuspectingly logged onto Facebook … and BLAMMO, the Russian hackers got them!

Bloomberg is reporting that French authorities have opened a probe into Russian interference (in the middle of which report, for no apparent reason, a gigantic photo of Le Pen is featured, presumably just to give it that “Nazi” flavor). According to “analysis seen by The Times,” Russia-linked social media accounts have been “amplifying” the “chaos” and “violence” by tweeting photos of gilets jaunes who the French police have savagely beaten or gratuitiously shot with “less-than-lethal projectiles.” “Are nationalists infiltrating the yellow vests?” the BBC Newsnight producers are wondering. According to Buzzfeed’s Ryan Broderick, “a beast born almost entirely from Facebook” is slouching toward … well, I’m not quite sure, the UK or even, God help us, America! And then there’s Max Boot, who is convinced he is being personally persecuted by Russian agents like Katie Hopkins, James Woods, Glenn Greenwald, and other high-ranking members of a worldwide conspiracy Boot refers to as the “Illiberal International” (but which regular readers of my column will recognize as the “Putin-Nazis“). [...]
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[...] Nothing scares the Identity Politics Left quite like an actual working class uprising. Witnessing the furious unwashed masses operating out there on their own, with no decent human restraint whatsoever, Identity Politics Leftists feel a sudden overwhelming urge to analyze, categorize, organize, sanitize, and otherwise correct and control them. They can’t accept the fact that the actual, living, breathing working classes are messy, multiplicitous, inconsistent, and irreducible to any one ideology. Some of them are racists. Some are fascists. Others are communists, socialists, anarchists. Many have no idea what they are, and don’t particularly care for any of these labels. This is what the actual working classes are, a big, contradictory collection of people who, in spite of all their differences, share one thing in common … they are being screwed over by the ruling classes. I don’t know about you, but I consider myself one of them. [...]
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Old 15th December 2018, 01:07 AM   #85
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Acte V - RT is already streaming:

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"Childlike", indeed...
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Old 20th December 2018, 04:19 AM   #87
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France 'ready to use last-resort chemical weapon against rioting Yellow Vests'
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Old 23rd December 2018, 04:05 AM   #88
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Yesterday at Acte VI the cops got into a bit of a problem with one of their hit&run attacks when one of their motorcycles broke down, even threatening to start shooting the protesters at one point. The hit&run attacks are a tactic whereby they drive close to the protests with motorcycles, launch grenades into the crowd and then immediately drive off again. ETA: how courageous they are indeed...
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Old 23rd December 2018, 04:17 AM   #89
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launch grenades into the crowd
As a tally on this, by my count over 10000 tear gas grenades and 1000 explosive grenades have been launched into the crowds so far. Leaving 10 people dead and about an equal number heavily injured (mostly hands or legs torn off).
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Old 23rd December 2018, 06:13 AM   #90
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As a tally on this, by my count over 10000 tear gas grenades and 1000 explosive grenades have been launched into the crowds so far. Leaving 10 people dead and about an equal number heavily injured (mostly hands or legs torn off).

The scenes where they just randomly throw this stuff from the rooftops of Champs-Élysées into packed crowds of peacefully protesting people are really bizarre.
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Old 12th January 2019, 04:54 AM   #91
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Acte Neuf - Back in Paris
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Old 19th January 2019, 06:55 AM   #92
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Old 21st January 2019, 02:05 AM   #93
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Did anyone catch that the YV's are trying to engineer a bank-run?

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe...a1b108c78f25eb

The idea is to bring down the banking system (always a good idea) by having thousands of poor people pull all of their savings from banks.

Some have called for bringing down the 'Rothschild banks' this way. This probably means some segments of the YV movement buy into an anti-semitic conspiracy theory, as I presume that very few of them actually have their money in the exclusive Rothschild bank.

Another aspect of this; Even if hundreds of thousands of economically deprived people pull their funds from the banking system, it won't even put a dent in the bank's ability to function.
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Old 21st January 2019, 02:11 AM   #94
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Yeah, the days are gone in which anyone but institutional investors and major hedge funds can threaten the stability of banking sector.

But by all means, let the people take their money out of the banks - if it was a lot, they probably wouldn't be protesting.
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Yesterday in Acte XI, Micron's thugs managed to create a martyr:

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A prominent French anti-government "yellow vest" activist, badly injured in the eye at a protest, was struck with one of the controversial rubber bullets used by police, his lawyer said Sunday.

Jerome Rodrigues' lawyer fears he will be "handicapped for life" after he was injured in clashes with police in Paris on Saturday during an 11th straight weekend of protests against President Emmanuel Macron.

Rodrigues, a 40-year-old construction worker, was placed in an artificial coma overnight after the incident at the Bastille monument in central Paris.

"He is in shock. He will be handicapped for life. It is a tragedy for him and his family," lawyer Philippe de Veulle told BFM television, adding that he was lodging a complaint against police.

The bearded Rodrigues, who has become a well-known figure in the "yellow vest" movement with 50,000 followers on Facebook, was live-streaming the protest on the website when he was hit.

De Veulle said Rodrigues was struck with a "flashball", referring to the 40-mm (1.6-inch) rubber projectiles used by French riot police.

The devices -- which are not used in most European countries -- have become deeply controversial in France since the protests began in November, blamed for dozens of serious injuries. [...]

And the disgusting little puppet Micron has the nerve to call for Maduro to step down...
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An "assembly of assemblies", apparently with some authority, calls for "massive and unlimited strike" starting next Tuesday.

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Acte XIV - no sign of dying down. Au contraire!
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no sign of dying down. Au contraire!
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on lache rien!
Rien!
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I spent the afternoon listening to the works of this band HK & Les Saltimbanks. Not only is this an excellent protest hymn for the yellow vests, their first album (Citoyen Du Monde, 2011) where this is coming from is the finest new patchanka I've heard in a long time, maybe since the debut of La Troba Kung-Fu. The two follow-ups so far are also nice but as so often with these bands, they burn bright and quickly. Thanks so much for posting this, caveman1917. It's exactly what I needed for the upcoming (hot) spring.
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Not that they would need a "prostest hymn", they have their national anthem after all which is sung prominently. For those who don't know, here's the quasi-official translation of "La Marsellaise":

Arise children of the fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consorts

CHORUS
To arms citizens
Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows


What do they want this horde of slaves
Of traitors and conspiratorial kings?
For whom these vile chains
These long-prepared irons?
Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage
What methods must be taken?
It is us they dare plan
To return to the old slavery!

What! These foreign cohorts!
They would make laws in our courts!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would cut down our warrior sons
Good Lord! By chained hands
Our brow would yield under the yoke
The vile despots would have themselves be
The masters of destiny

Tremble, tyrants and traitors
The shame of all good men
Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
Will receive their just reward
Against you we are all soldiers
If they fall, our young heros
France will bear new ones
Ready to join the fight against you

Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors
Bear or hold back your blows
Spare these sad victims
That they regret taking up arms against us
But not these bloody despots
These accomplices of Bouillé
All these tigers who pitilessly
Ripped out their mothers' wombs

We too shall enlist
When our elders' time has come
To add to the list of deeds
Inscribed upon their tombs
We are much less jealous of surviving them
Than of sharing their coffins
We shall have the sublime pride
Of avenging or joining them

Drive on sacred patriotism
Support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished liberty
Join the struggle with your defenders
Under our flags, let victory
Hurry to your manly tone
So that in death your enemies
See your triumph and our glory!
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Thanks so much for posting this, caveman1917. It's exactly what I needed for the upcoming (hot) spring.
I just stumbled on it accidentally really, I quickly googled "on lache rien" to check whether it would provide our English speakers here with a decent translation of the expression so they'd know what we're talking about here in French, and I stumbled upon the song and it did indeed seem like a perfect protest song for the Gilets Jaunes. Turns out there are already plenty of videos where the song is used for Gilet Jaunes, such as
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Found this gem
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Before today's Acte XVII, police violence has caused (numbers from German paramedics helping at "the front"):

12 deaths
5000 injured, among them 1500 severely and 180 life-threatening
15 hands amputated, 4 feet amputated, 12 eyes lost
2800 arrested
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Acte XVIII, selected scenes:

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Today for Acte XIX, Micron is sending in the army.
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