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Old 27th June 2015, 12:45 PM   #281
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Meanwhile, Rodney Hide, the dear wee irrelevant man that he is these days, still denying climate change.

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...Rodney Hide, said the results showed that New Zealand was "saner than most of the world".

"[The results] suggests to me that New Zealanders are more resistant to propaganda than I would have otherwise believed."
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Old 27th June 2015, 02:59 PM   #282
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He has a fair point about the cost.

Obviously climate change is real, but even if humans are making it 100% worse than natural cycles, taxing everyone in NZ for our 0.01% contribution is extremely stupid.
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Tax is irrelevant (and zero right now) - Hide is pushing an anti-science, pro-stupidity position.
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Tax is irrelevant (and zero right now) - Hide is pushing an anti-science, pro-stupidity position.
That is because he is an idiot.

Tax isn't irrelevant and it is one of the reasons labour will keep failing being dependant on the greens and their stupid ideas
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Tax isn't irrelevant...
It is when discussing Hide.

Whether taxes are proposed or not is still moot, but one thing is for sure, you could not take less action that National is, having slashed the budget from $1B to $0-00.

National might not be climate deniers, but they may as well be.
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Old 27th June 2015, 07:12 PM   #286
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Seriously. What would you prefer?

1 billion paid for absolutely zero effect on climate change, but a major affect on poor people?
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Uh, the money was never spent, so saying what it hasn't done is a bit odd.

It doesn't need to be a tax on the poor, but I doubt it will ever happen anyway - as the article shows, Kiwis just don't care and suggesting a tax would be political suicide.
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Is it okay to post non-political New Zealand-related stuff in this thread? Or is it strictly a politics thread?
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Is it okay to post non-political New Zealand-related stuff in this thread? Or is it strictly a politics thread?
This is a bizarre question since you quoted the OP only a couple of days ago and I explained that politics is included in the subject, but it's thread about NZ in general.

Post away. Even pics are cool.
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I recently discovered Devilskin. I like them.
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I recently discovered Devilskin. I like them.
I've had a look.

Alright. A bit tame. The singer doesn't suit the band.

Kind of wannabe Skunk Anansie
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Old 2nd July 2015, 02:44 PM   #293
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We have some good bands occasionally.

NZ music isn't just Lorde and Dave Dobbyn*.





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Old 3rd July 2015, 01:52 AM   #294
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In that case I'd like to pimp the wonderfulness of the Karearea - the New Zealand Falcon. Recently paid a visit to the Wingspan Birds of Prey Trust which is a non-government agency which rehabilitates and breeds New Zealand birds of prey (particularly the Karearea) for release into the wild. Although I was familiar with this bird, and knew it was rare, I learned quite a lot, and it's now firmly my favourite bird.

There's a couple of reasons I love them. Firstly, they're very attractive birds, and secondly they're uniquely ours. In fact they're New Zealand's only surviving endemic bird of prey - both the Kahu and Ruru are found elsewhere in the world.

I also didn't know how rare they were. I was aware that they're seldom seen, and that most "sightings" are in fact sightings of the much more common and much larger Kahu (Australasian Harrier). But I didn't know that the Karearea is actually considerably rarer than the kiwi. 75% of chicks don't survive their first year, and 1 in 5 adults dies on our power lines. Most depressing, although they're protected, and harming them is very illegal, they're regularly shot by farmers.

Despite being as endangered as the widely-loved kiwi, they're not a widely known bird - in fact many New Zealanders don't even know they exist, which is a bit sad considering they appear on the $20 bill.

But the REAL reason I love them is they're such amazing animals. Unlike the Harrier, which scavanges and can be found regularly on roadsides, the Falcon only hunts on the wing, and its prey is other birds. They're lethal hunters, incredibly fast and agile, and incredibly intelligent. In fact they're considered amongst the most intelligent raptors in the world. It's thought they evolved such remarkable intelligence because they hunted native New Zealand parrots like the kea, kaka and kakariki, themselves all highly intelligent animals.

One of the coolest things about these birds is in fact one of their biggest vulnerabilities. Like the kiwi, they're incredibly brave and incredibly territorial, and more than willing to take on things bigger and badder than themselves. If a much larger Harrier wanders into a Falcon's territory, the Falcon will normally attack the Harrier on sight, and usually succeeds in driving them away. But they don't stop there - they'll also attack humans if they get too close to their nest. If that's not enough, they're more than happy to try chase away diggers, bulldozers and trucks that trespass. In one known case a female Karearea left her nest and pursued a light aircraft in excess of 1km.

This is Wingspan's website.

Here's some amazing photos of these birds.
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We have some good bands occasionally.

NZ music isn't just Lorde and Dave Dobbyn*.





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Went to the rugby tonight. Pretty cool. Good atmosphere.

My wife supports the hurricanes. Me Crusaders, so it was the first time I have been to a game as massive as a total neutral.

Weird feeling
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Went to the rugby tonight. Pretty cool. Good atmosphere.

My wife supports the hurricanes. Me Crusaders, so it was the first time I have been to a game as massive as a total neutral.

Weird feeling
Must be - I've never been to a game as a neutral.

The Highlanders, eh? I haven't seen a single pass, but the general opinion seems to be they deserved it, so well done, I guess.

Big party in Dunedin tonight!
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Can anyone suggest a good website to see pictures of N.Z.
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Google will help you - no shortage of nice pics, but to look at some pro work, go here:

http://www.thepicturelounge.co.nz/gallery-list
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I have a lot of respect for Helen Clark. One of the best leaders to come out of the country.

But watching an interview with her today she has just turned into a UN robot who basically has no opinion that might cost her the top job.

It is actually quite sad to watch
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Hey Atheist.

Need your opinion on whether I am turning into a conspiracy theorist.

Prince Charles coming over at the exact same time as the first flag referendum.

Prince Williams kid wearing retro kit of the exact same thing he wore here on his first visit as a toddler.

I am either an idiot or sensing some desperation from the royals and the flag
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I have a lot of respect for Helen Clark. One of the best leaders to come out of the country.

But watching an interview with her today she has just turned into a UN robot who basically has no opinion that might cost her the top job.

It is actually quite sad to watch
That's the price you pay when the prize is that big. I can't blame her for that - wouldn't you, if one of the world's most visible jobs was about to be up for grabs and you had a fair crack thanks to being a female in the right place at the right time?

She loathes Key with a passion, but she's not going to take anything even related to a political stand right now.

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Hey Atheist.

Need your opinion on whether I am turning into a conspiracy theorist.

Prince Charles coming over at the exact same time as the first flag referendum.

Prince Williams kid wearing retro kit of the exact same thing he wore here on his first visit as a toddler.

I am either an idiot or sensing some desperation from the royals and the flag
My theory is you spend far too much time reading what the royal family's doing!

How the hell do you know:

A: What William's kid was wearing?
B: What William wore 30 years ago?

Mate, I'm disturbed by these revelations.
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Hey Atheist.

Need your opinion on whether I am turning into a conspiracy theorist.

Prince Charles coming over at the exact same time as the first flag referendum.

Prince Williams kid wearing retro kit of the exact same thing he wore here on his first visit as a toddler.

I am either an idiot or sensing some desperation from the royals and the flag
I doubt the Royals really care about our flag. Prince William and Prince Harry would probably like nothing more than the Monarchy to be abolished, so they can get on with having normal lives.
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That's the price you pay when the prize is that big. I can't blame her for that - wouldn't you, if one of the world's most visible jobs was about to be up for grabs and you had a fair crack thanks to being a female in the right place at the right time?

She loathes Key with a passion, but she's not going to take anything even related to a political stand right now.

The UN, by it's nature, needs to be politically neutral and to do any good it has to be able to get disparate groups of people to cooperate. If Helen Clark couldn't work with the National Government, why on earth would anyone think she was capable of getting entire nations that despise each other to work together? She's demonstrating her full scope and capability as a leader.
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I doubt the Royals really care about our flag. Prince William and Prince Harry would probably like nothing more than the Monarchy to be abolished, so they can get on with having normal lives.
Probably right
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Can anyone suggest a good website to see pictures of N.Z.
This is my landscape photography gallery. All but two were taken in New Zealand.
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Yep! The Samoan kids won't care that it's a Giblert ball.
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I've been meaning to mention the death of Craig Norgate.

Unquestionably the highest-profile and most-successful corporate businessman of the past 50 years.

From bringing Fonterra into being to making changes to the CA world, Craig Norgate was a giant among NZ corporate executives.

Taking into account his body shape, the news didn't surprise me, but still saddened me - everything I know about him was positive - a really driven executive of enormous energy.
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I notice that it seems to have gone un-noticed that Key has been caught telling fibs again.

He told parliament that he had been advised by the IRD that dropping the $1,000 kick-start would have no significant impact on enrolments.

The reality? The IRD in their budget advice papers started that they believed it would have a significant impact, especially on young people and the Self Employed.

Result of his fib? Kiwisaver enrolments have dropped by up to 50%.

Yay Team Key!
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I notice that it seems to have gone un-noticed that Key has been caught telling fibs again.

He told parliament that he had been advised by the IRD that dropping the $1,000 kick-start would have no significant impact on enrolments.

The reality? The IRD in their budget advice papers started that they believed it would have a significant impact, especially on young people and the Self Employed.

Result of his fib? Kiwisaver enrolments have dropped by up to 50%.

Yay Team Key!
I wouldn't say it's gone unnoticed - there has been some good coverage of it.

I think the problem is more that he's lied so many times that it isn't even news any more.
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I wouldn't say it's gone unnoticed - there has been some good coverage of it.

I think the problem is more that he's lied so many times that it isn't even news any more.

Rinse... repeat...

I almost wonder if it's some sort of secret ploy - deliberately tell constant lies and half-truths so that when a seriously critical porker comes to light the electorate are so numb to it they don't even notice.
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Rinse... repeat...

I almost wonder if it's some sort of secret ploy - deliberately tell constant lies and half-truths so that when a seriously critical porker comes to light the electorate are so numb to it they don't even notice.
As Little would say

Check out his last name. Sounds asian
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Rinse... repeat...

I almost wonder if it's some sort of secret ploy - deliberately tell constant lies and half-truths so that when a seriously critical porker comes to light the electorate are so numb to it they don't even notice.
That is entirely possible.

It certainly works.
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Consistently telling lies is a bit of load of kodswallip
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Mate, I can give you a long list going back over the entire period of his Prime Ministership.

As a starter, here's just a small selection. I get sick of keeping track.
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Mate, I can give you a long list going back over the entire period of his Prime Ministership.

As a starter, here's just a small selection. I get sick of keeping track.
None of those are lies

In fact a fair bit is assumption
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Keep that National delusion going, mate.
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Well it is. I didn't vote National

You need something more concrete and scientifically valid.....like a list of surnames that sound funny
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Do you disagree that the names indicate a 95% likelihood of ethnic origin?

In terms of Johnny Combover's lies, they speak for themselves. Many of them are 100% provable by records, and his claims of "forgetting" are not believable.
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