[Continuation] Rioters storm and occupy the US Capitol - part 2 - Page 35

JoeMorgue · 25th May 2023, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by TurkeysGhost

How do you figure? There's no parole for federal prison.

Because the next Republican President is going to pardon everyone involved with Jan 6 as sure as the sun is going to rise tomorrow and we're not going to spend decades without another Republican President.

TurkeysGhost · 25th May 2023, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Because the next Republican President is going to pardon everyone involved with Jan 6 as sure as the sun is going to rise tomorrow and we're not going to spend decades without another Republican President.

That's probably what Rhodes is counting on. At least, he was pretty openly defiant in his sentencing statement. He was pretty much screwed either way so trying to appeal to a 2nd term Trump is probably his best bet to get out of prison.

Probably doesn't feel great to hang all your hopes of freedom on a guy that has already passed an opportunity to totally pardon you, but I suppose hope springs eternal.

JoeMorgue · 25th May 2023, 11:17 AM

He should spend another 10 years minimum in prison for being an ex-military terrorist who staged an assault on the Capital, wears an eye patch, married a stripper and yet still manages to be 100% completely suburban dad level lame.

chrispy · 25th May 2023, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Because the next Republican President is going to pardon everyone involved with Jan 6 as sure as the sun is going to rise tomorrow and we're not going to spend decades without another Republican President.

I took it as a funny joke about his eye-patch. Maybe I'm just too simple.

The Great Zaganza · 25th May 2023, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by chrispy

I took it as a funny joke about his eye-patch. Maybe I'm just too simple.

nope, you got it

The Great Zaganza · 25th May 2023, 11:24 AM

but the sad truth is that they will all get pardoned by the next Republican President.

alfaniner · 25th May 2023, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

but the sad truth is that they will all get pardoned by the next Republican President.

I honestly think only one guy would do that.

Ranb · 25th May 2023, 12:12 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oat...acy-conviction

Quote:

"And what was the motive? You didn’t like the new guy," Mehta said, noting that "just because someone supported the former president doesn’t mean they’re a White nationalist."

"Your only regret was you thought you should have brought the weapons, and if you had, you would have hung Nancy Pelosi from a lamppost," Mehta said.

The judge said it’s clear Rhodes "wants democracy in this country to devolve into violence."

"The moment you are released, whenever that may be, you will be ready to take up arms against your government," Mehta said.

In the past Rhodes has claimed that the violence at the riot was “all done by other people.”

When I was reading the book by Mark Owen "No Easy Day", he commented on how the "higher up the food chain the targeted individual was, the bigger a pussy he was”. He was referring to Osama bin Laden who made no attempt at all to defend himself and left it to his family and courier to do so.

Ranb

The Great Zaganza · 25th May 2023, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

I honestly think only one guy would do that.

Nope, I'm sure they all will do that.
Otherwise, they admit that Jan 6th was so bad that they should have impeached Trump.

dudalb · 25th May 2023, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by TurkeysGhost

How do you figure? There's no parole for federal prison.

There is a form of it in reduced time for good behavior, but it is much less generous then most state parole programs. He will spend at least 75% of his sentence unless pardoned.

dudalb · 25th May 2023, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

I honestly think only one guy would do that.

Agreed. I know De Santis floated a pardon today, but in reality he would want to get reelected, and knows pardoning the likes of Rhodes would hurt him.

dudalb · 25th May 2023, 03:21 PM

Rhodes ' lawyer complained that the prosecution "used Rhodes's words against him".

Uh, that is what prosecutors do, pal. I wonder how some people who practice law ever pass the bar exam.

angrysoba · 25th May 2023, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by TurkeysGhost

How do you figure? There's no parole for federal prison.

Originally Posted by chrispy

That was a good one. Thx for the laugh.

angrysoba · 25th May 2023, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Nope, I'm sure they all will do that.
Otherwise, they admit that Jan 6th was so bad that they should have impeached Trump.

They will never “admit”. The idea that they will crunch through the logical implications of their positions and realize and admit that they made an inferential error is….. adorable.

They will let them out or keep them in depending on whether a) they even think of them at all, which in Trump’s case may not happen. Pretty sure loyalty is a one-way street for him. b) how much there is a clamour for their release. Some of the other GOP candidates may crack in order to pander to the MAGA base, but then they may also worry that it might alientate the non-lunatic fringe of the party who could still swing elections.

dudalb · 25th May 2023, 05:48 PM

In Club Fed, you can get 54 days off for a year's good behavior, which means One year for every Six years (roughly) so baring a pardon or commutation, Stewie is in for at least 14 yeats.

25th May 2023, 10:48 AM	#1361
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,114	Originally Posted by TurkeysGhost How do you figure? There's no parole for federal prison. Because the next Republican President is going to pardon everyone involved with Jan 6 as sure as the sun is going to rise tomorrow and we're not going to spend decades without another Republican President.
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25th May 2023, 10:55 AM	#1362
TurkeysGhost Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 31,634	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Because the next Republican President is going to pardon everyone involved with Jan 6 as sure as the sun is going to rise tomorrow and we're not going to spend decades without another Republican President. That's probably what Rhodes is counting on. At least, he was pretty openly defiant in his sentencing statement. He was pretty much screwed either way so trying to appeal to a 2nd term Trump is probably his best bet to get out of prison. Probably doesn't feel great to hang all your hopes of freedom on a guy that has already passed an opportunity to totally pardon you, but I suppose hope springs eternal.
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25th May 2023, 11:17 AM	#1363
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,114	He should spend another 10 years minimum in prison for being an ex-military terrorist who staged an assault on the Capital, wears an eye patch, married a stripper and yet still manages to be 100% completely suburban dad level lame.
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25th May 2023, 11:19 AM	#1364
chrispy Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Solola, Guatemala Posts: 1,179	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Because the next Republican President is going to pardon everyone involved with Jan 6 as sure as the sun is going to rise tomorrow and we're not going to spend decades without another Republican President. I took it as a funny joke about his eye-patch. Maybe I'm just too simple.
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25th May 2023, 11:23 AM	#1365
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 19,893	Originally Posted by chrispy I took it as a funny joke about his eye-patch. Maybe I'm just too simple. nope, you got it
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25th May 2023, 11:24 AM	#1366
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 19,893	but the sad truth is that they will all get pardoned by the next Republican President.
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25th May 2023, 12:09 PM	#1367
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 27,901	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza but the sad truth is that they will all get pardoned by the next Republican President. I honestly think only one guy would do that.
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25th May 2023, 12:12 PM	#1368
Ranb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA USA Posts: 10,722	https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oat...acy-conviction Quote: "And what was the motive? You didn’t like the new guy," Mehta said, noting that "just because someone supported the former president doesn’t mean they’re a White nationalist." "Your only regret was you thought you should have brought the weapons, and if you had, you would have hung Nancy Pelosi from a lamppost," Mehta said. The judge said it’s clear Rhodes "wants democracy in this country to devolve into violence." "The moment you are released, whenever that may be, you will be ready to take up arms against your government," Mehta said. In the past Rhodes has claimed that the violence at the riot was “all done by other people.” When I was reading the book by Mark Owen "No Easy Day", he commented on how the "higher up the food chain the targeted individual was, the bigger a pussy he was”. He was referring to Osama bin Laden who made no attempt at all to defend himself and left it to his family and courier to do so. Ranb

25th May 2023, 12:23 PM	#1369
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 19,893	Originally Posted by alfaniner I honestly think only one guy would do that. Nope, I'm sure they all will do that. Otherwise, they admit that Jan 6th was so bad that they should have impeached Trump.
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25th May 2023, 03:17 PM	#1370
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by TurkeysGhost How do you figure? There's no parole for federal prison. There is a form of it in reduced time for good behavior, but it is much less generous then most state parole programs. He will spend at least 75% of his sentence unless pardoned.

25th May 2023, 03:19 PM	#1371
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Originally Posted by alfaniner I honestly think only one guy would do that. Agreed. I know De Santis floated a pardon today, but in reality he would want to get reelected, and knows pardoning the likes of Rhodes would hurt him.

25th May 2023, 03:21 PM	#1372
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	Rhodes ' lawyer complained that the prosecution "used Rhodes's words against him". Uh, that is what prosecutors do, pal. I wonder how some people who practice law ever pass the bar exam.

25th May 2023, 03:35 PM	#1373
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 34,399	Originally Posted by TurkeysGhost How do you figure? There's no parole for federal prison. Originally Posted by chrispy That was a good one. Thx for the laugh.
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25th May 2023, 03:42 PM	#1374
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 34,399	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Nope, I'm sure they all will do that. Otherwise, they admit that Jan 6th was so bad that they should have impeached Trump. They will never “admit”. The idea that they will crunch through the logical implications of their positions and realize and admit that they made an inferential error is….. adorable. They will let them out or keep them in depending on whether a) they even think of them at all, which in Trump’s case may not happen. Pretty sure loyalty is a one-way street for him. b) how much there is a clamour for their release. Some of the other GOP candidates may crack in order to pander to the MAGA base, but then they may also worry that it might alientate the non-lunatic fringe of the party who could still swing elections.
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25th May 2023, 05:48 PM	#1375
dudalb Suspended Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,604	In Club Fed, you can get 54 days off for a year's good behavior, which means One year for every Six years (roughly) so baring a pardon or commutation, Stewie is in for at least 14 yeats.