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catsmate · 3rd June 2023, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

"Jedi" as a religion is absolute nonsense. The Sith have a much more practical philosophy. Peace is a lie, there is only passion! Tell me that isn't both a kickass theological tenet and the tagline for a sultry primetime soap opera!

Well you have four and a half years to recruit....

arthwollipot · Yesterday, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate

No.
Not in Ireland anyway, and not in the UK either I believe, they are counted as a separate religion just like any other group with thirty or more adherents. State agencies have no role in determining what is a "real" religion.

Have you checked the actual processing guidelines? I worked on the Australian Census in 2016 and that was the rule - anything that wasn't on a specific list was to be recorded as "none".

Orphia Nay · Yesterday, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Have you checked the actual processing guidelines? I worked on the Australian Census in 2016 and that was the rule - anything that wasn't on a specific list was to be recorded as "none".

Ireland
In a May 2012 review of the 2011 census, the Dáil Public Accounts Committee asked the Central Statistics Office about the reliability of self-reported answers, instancing people listing Jedi as their religion. The response was "We could probably tell you the number of people who have declared themselves as such, but we don't publish it". The 2016 census results list all religions receiving more than 30 responses, including 2,050 (0.085%) under "Jedi Knight". As of the 2022 census, there are 1,800 Jedi knights, a decrease of 250 since the 2016 census results.[28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_census_phenomenon

catsmate · Today, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Have you checked the actual processing guidelines? I worked on the Australian Census in 2016 and that was the rule - anything that wasn't on a specific list was to be recorded as "none".

Yes. Australia is not Ireland.

arthwollipot · Today, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate

Yes. Australia is not Ireland.

I never said it was.

3rd June 2023, 04:05 AM	#161
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 28,613	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey "Jedi" as a religion is absolute nonsense. The Sith have a much more practical philosophy. Peace is a lie, there is only passion! Tell me that isn't both a kickass theological tenet and the tagline for a sultry primetime soap opera! Well you have four and a half years to recruit....
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Yesterday, 10:55 PM	#162
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 82,098	Originally Posted by catsmate No. Not in Ireland anyway, and not in the UK either I believe, they are counted as a separate religion just like any other group with thirty or more adherents. State agencies have no role in determining what is a "real" religion. Have you checked the actual processing guidelines? I worked on the Australian Census in 2016 and that was the rule - anything that wasn't on a specific list was to be recorded as "none".
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Yesterday, 11:55 PM	#163
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Photo Contest Winner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 41,966	Originally Posted by arthwollipot Have you checked the actual processing guidelines? I worked on the Australian Census in 2016 and that was the rule - anything that wasn't on a specific list was to be recorded as "none". Ireland In a May 2012 review of the 2011 census, the Dáil Public Accounts Committee asked the Central Statistics Office about the reliability of self-reported answers, instancing people listing Jedi as their religion. The response was "We could probably tell you the number of people who have declared themselves as such, but we don't publish it". The 2016 census results list all religions receiving more than 30 responses, including 2,050 (0.085%) under "Jedi Knight". As of the 2022 census, there are 1,800 Jedi knights, a decrease of 250 since the 2016 census results.[28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_census_phenomenon
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Today, 03:47 AM	#164
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 28,613	Originally Posted by arthwollipot Have you checked the actual processing guidelines? I worked on the Australian Census in 2016 and that was the rule - anything that wasn't on a specific list was to be recorded as "none". Yes. Australia is not Ireland.
	__________________ As human right is always something given, it always in reality reduces to the right which men give, "concede," to each other. If the right to existence is conceded to new-born children, then they have the right; if it is not conceded to them, as was the case among the Spartans and ancient Romans, then they do not have it. For only society can give or concede it to them; they themselves cannot take it, or give it to themselves.

Today, 09:24 PM	#165
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 82,098	Originally Posted by catsmate Yes. Australia is not Ireland. I never said it was.
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