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27th August 2017, 09:47 PM | #401 |
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Therefore any god or gods are irrelevant to your morality.
Also, there is no such thing as a "soul". And you can provide NO evidence that such a thing exists. Sure. I get mine from the same place everyone else does. Humanity has evolved as a social species. It's built in without any need for immortal imaginary "souls". Or inherited superstitions. Why? He/she/it/housecat doesn't exist outside poorly written books of fiction. What's there to fear from a figment of someone else's fevered imaginings? |
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Can't help yourself with the childishness, can you?
Nope. I am responding to your claims. Back a way up thread. Although your tall tales change so often I can understand that you lose track. So what? That doesn't prevent you from being a vector. |
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You were the one who asked
I was only asking on what basis you make these conjectures. Proof is not required, just the tiniest smidgen of evidence that would make me even pause to consider them. Thank you for admitting you have none, so I don't need to waste my time. |
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28th August 2017, 06:59 AM | #406 |
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So you HAVEN'T read it cover to cover, yet you claim it to be the word of God.
I never understood that. How could you actually BELIEVE the Bible was written by God as his message to us, and not bother READING it beyond the handful of passages promoted in Sunday School? Ahh, the old "Without God there are no morals" line. One problem with the line of reasoning you just excreted is that in using it you have confessed that without the fear of a cosmic sky-daddy spanking you for all eternity, you yourself would be an immoral sociopath. You only restrain your apparent murderous impulses because you fear a deity. That's not morality. Funny how I can conduct myself morally without God, but you admit that without him you could not. Have you considered attending seminary? The fact that you extrapolate personal tragedy into an inevitable global judgement suggests you may have some of the personality traits needed to be a megachurch pastor. So your respond to the violence God orders in the Bible through denial. I suppose your lack of knowledge about the Bible's contents makes that really easy for you. |
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No. I believe that some of it was possibly inspired by God. That inspiration was a powerful message that resonated in people. Good people took the good parts. Bad people feared the punishments. Here are more signs that the world is going crazy.
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Now the many tribal Kings that we have in South Africa are wanting diplomatic immunity because they also beat, assault and kill subjects. |
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29th August 2017, 06:23 AM | #412 |
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Going?
Kid, crap like that has been going on since we climbed down from the trees and first tried our hands at civilization. You're trying to inject extra meaning into the fact that many humans, especially the ones attracted to political power, are jackasses. So the mortality of the religious is to deliberately lie because you want to believe the other guy is too? Quick tip: If you're going to try and claim religious values give someone superior morality to an atheist, you need to actually DEMONSTRATE superior mortality or be dismissed as a hypocrite. My eldest son is in grade school and he knows the "But he's doing it too!" argument is garbage. I'd expect better of an adult who claims superior morality to mine. |
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29th August 2017, 09:02 AM | #414 |
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I am operating under the assumption that their family life claims are accurate, which would at least make them a chronological adult. However, given the fact they just admitted to deliberately lying because they think the other person might be, I will concede it's an iffy assumption to make.
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29th August 2017, 12:19 PM | #415 |
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Dilbert tackles the question of how one can be moral without belief in a deity:
http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-11-07 |
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So the past is a justification for present violence and "unorthodoxy"? On your reasoning, slavery should made legal again. And why have laws that protect children from pedophiles? Bring back public executions such as drawing and quartering, and let the children watch. I thought morality was an evolving trait of improvement. |
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I shall be charitable and assume that you posted in a hurry, were stressed, or possibly under the influence of chemical stimulants, because I cannot see how your post can be considered to follow on from mine.
Let me help you. You posted 3 stories to support your claim that " the world is going crazy". These involved cannibalism, violence and unorthodox sexual activity. In reply, I asked you if you could name any period in history when this didn't happen. My point was that, if this behaviour has been going on since the dawn of human history, modern instances of such cannot be used as evidence that the world is going crazy. You appear to have completely misread this, and seem to think I am justifying violence. You then go on to assert that I would welcome public executions and a free pass for paedophiles. Nothing in what I said could have led you to this conclusion, hence my assumption of something interfering in your focus. (By the way, I am all for unorthodox sexual activity, so long as it is between consenting adults. I do not share the prudish morality of your god). In summary, if you want to prove your point that morality is declining, you need to show this with actual evidence, rather than a few snippets from the news that are a) not representative of the world as a whole and b) nothing new. |
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Sometimes I could swear I hear the whoosh as the points sail over PartSkeptic's head.
The one accompanying his response to the Dilbert cartoon was particularly loud. |
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30th August 2017, 06:07 AM | #421 |
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You might want to try READING the comic and the few comics that follow it. You look a wee bit foolish when you comment after only reading the first panel. Still, your inability to finish a Dilbert comic before commenting on it does explain how you never managed to actually READ the Bible.
You know full well that's not what his point was. You are, yet again, misrepresenting what others wrote to create a false narrative that's easier to reply to. That may fly with people you know in meat space or on credulous religious forums, but that kind of deliberate deception, and you've admitted you're doing it deliberately, will be called out here. They've already admitted they're doing it on purpose, using the belief that another poster is doing it too as justification. At this point, nothing PartSkeptic says can be taken seriously. She or he has turned this into an overt troll thread. |
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Before, according to PartSkeptic. Trump will nuke North Korea this month, the global health problem will emerge before the end of this year, and will wipe out a large percentage of us (I can't be bothered to look up the number) in the next few years. Meanwhile Trump will do well as President.
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Quick drive-by posting.
Glad to see some have been paying attention. Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life. Until it isn't. |
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You attempted to leave the thread, but failed to achieve escape velocity.
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Without adding anything useful or interesting. Well done.
You're not the only member of this forum, you know. Why is it that the woo-mongers and the zealots all seem to imagine we all sit around and wait to be lectured and enlightened by them? PS, if you 'paid attention' to the numerous replies to your posts, you might learn something. Otherwise, it might be better to see this forum as a meeting-place of equals, not a passive audience awaiting your input. A little humility goes a long way. Wow, that's like, profound and stuff. You mean that people die? Who'd have thought? ffs |
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September is upon us. Wait for it.....
If the US nukes NK, I can reliably predict (without Tarot cards because the skeptics on this site can be so predictable), that I will hear how obvious a solution it was, and that it was a nothing prediction. So, was it so predictable WHEN the cards said it would happen? It is beginning to look more predictable now. A missile over Japan, and now a nuclear test this morning. An indication that Trump is now seriously considering a nuke or two is his measured language. That is, "I warned you once, and you did not listen". |
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