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14th June 2017, 06:16 AM | #241 |
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Nonsense and poppycock. You are making up a distinction not supported by the text.
Then provide a better Hebrew resource that justifies your attempt to make a distinction between "prophesy" and "prediction." Do you have ANYTHING other than your own wishful thinking to support your claim? |
14th June 2017, 06:18 AM | #242 |
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You are making up your own definitions in your delusional mind.
There is functional no difference between "prophecy" and "prediction". You are lying again. You copy/paste walls of text all the time, but you can NOT show from anywhere that there is a distiction between the two words. It is more of your made up crap from your warped, delusional "thinking". Oh, this is hysterical. Why do you even make such stupid, insane statements? You have NO IDEA if Strongs is reliable or not. NO IDEA. Stop making such idiotic statements. |
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14th June 2017, 08:04 AM | #245 |
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No. You desperately need there to be a difference so that you can continue to claim your failed predictions do not disqualify you as a prophet. Your personal need doesn't create a factual difference.
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The original language has but one relevant word. English translators have rendered it "prophecy" in some cases and "prediction" in other cases. This illustrates their understanding that the English words have substantially identical meanings; either can appropriately translate the Hebrew. More importantly, you once considered the concepts identical. You set out to prove you were a prophet. And how did you do that? By attempting to predict future events. Only after your predictions failed did you try to disconnect the concept of prophecy from prediction. And subsequently you have used the various forms of the English words "prophet" AND "prophecy" to mean a whole slew of unrelated and wrong things. For example, you invent a "prophetic meaning" to scripture, which is -- we glean from context -- simply whatever you personally choose to believe about what you read. You're simply making up new meanings for words. |
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14th June 2017, 08:38 AM | #247 |
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The END of the END
So at this stage I will leave the discussion as it is only going to be a repeat of all that I have stated.
I thank all my valued critics for their input—it certainly causes me to re-evaluate my stance. I will also put an END to my end time predictions until the END is in sight. So let me end with this. Thank you all. |
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14th June 2017, 08:59 AM | #251 |
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Yes, it probably will be. You can't demonstrate a working understanding of the difference between stating a claim and proving a claim. You seem to proceed from the premise that you are self-evidently infallible. Hence the entirety of the debate with you has been listening to you simply assert this or that nonsense over and over again.
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14th June 2017, 09:04 AM | #252 |
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This is not the first time that Paul Bethke has promised not to post here again until the signs he's confidently awaiting finally start to appear. I predict that before long he'll once again get bored waiting for something that is never going to happen and return to post as wrongly and as arrogantly as ever.
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14th June 2017, 10:10 AM | #253 |
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There is no difference between your fantasy predictions, prophecy, or whatever term of art you'd choose to apply to your religious delusions.
It's not enough for you to simply worship at a church, you've got to be the one that "knows" what the imaginary guy in the sky has in store for the world - your delusions of grandeur are clearly evident. Your are the self appointed mouthpiece for an imaginary entity. All your quoting of this-or-that from the book that established the existence of this imaginary entity doesn't establish anything other than your gullibility and your overwhelming need to be in control. You're failing badly. |
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14th June 2017, 12:51 PM | #259 |
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Took him long enough to get the hint.
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15th June 2017, 03:24 AM | #263 |
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Signs of the End Times - Part the Third
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Like the cat.
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5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus
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This looks like it fits the characteristics of the pandemic pathogen I have been predicting may hit us soon. Transmittable fungus with high death rate and hard to eliminate
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I think we need to agree criteria upfront for what will constitute a hit for the prediction "A serious global health problem will be apparent by the end of 2017".
I suggest "A story about an emerging global health problem is the lead item on the front page of three [specified] major news sites in the same week". I nominate the BBC News website for one, PartSkeptic can pick one, suggestions invited for the third. |
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8th August 2017, 04:04 AM | #272 |
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Describing an inevitability is hardly a prediction. Claiming there will eventually be a pandemic is about as risky a prediction as saying there will be another full moon in the next month or so. Of COURSE there will be another pandemic sooner or later. That's how evolution works. Predicting one emerging before the end of a particular year is a prediction that carries a bit of risk, but as long as whatever eventually becomes the pandemic is detected somewhere before the end of the year it would be counted as a "hit" by anyone making the prediction. There are millions of pathogens that already qualify as a "hit" for your "Captain Obvious" prediction. Anthrax and Smallpox being released from thawing Russian permafrost. Ebola. The particularly nasty fungus in the article you lined to. You haven't made a prediction of any value. You've given us the public health equivalent of "the sun will rise, the sun will set and sooner or later everyone you know will be dead." You might as well be writing newspaper horoscopes. |
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8th August 2017, 06:17 AM | #274 |
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What's your point?
Are you seriously trying to claim that a potential pandemic is some sort of prophesy or proof of divine knowledge? Well, I suppose if every delusional "prophet" predicts a pandemic eventually one of them will get to claim they were "right," but it'll be sheer dumb luck, not divine intervention. |
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Only if you specify what 'it' is.
Deliberately making predictions so vague that something is very likely to happen which the prediction can then be interpreted to fit is exactly what makes most prophesising so utterly worthless. Giving a specific end date seemed to be indicating that you wanted to be better than that, but apparently not. |
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8th August 2017, 08:03 AM | #276 |
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The chances are high. To pretend otherwise would be to ignore all of human history. This, of course, means that your prediction is meaningless, since it is almost certain to occur at some point as it has in the past over and over again. 74 kya humanity almost went extinct, being reduced to around 10k individuals or so. Yet here we are 7 billion strong and growing.
To be blunt, it is likely that you have this very fungus happily growing on your own skin without any particular harm. And that is normal. It only becomes a problem in immunocompromised individuals. So let us imagine that said fungus mutates into some lethal version. That mutation will not last long. If it kills it's hosts, it has no more hosts in short order. Such things have happened in the past, so we have evidence that this is the case. We also have evidence that a certain segment of tabloid media likes nothing better than scaremongering tactics. It sells. Remember when AIDS was going to wipe us out? Or Ebola? Or whatever. None of it actually happened even though tabloids were screaming "Doom!!!! Eleventy!!". Here we all are decades later. The first case of AIDS that was confirmed was 1959. Earlier cases are suspected. The first confirmed case of Ebola was 1976. Total deaths 11,000. Pretty harsh way to go, but in the context of a global population of 7 billion, hardly call for talk of extinction. |
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