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Old 20th March 2019, 12:57 PM   #3001
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and the best of the best can only suggest collapsing cliffs as the cause... some brilliant minds at work here, bit like Reality Checks.
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Sane people read Collapsing cliff reveals comet’s interior and see that an explanation for one (1) outburst of dust and gas is the observed collapse of a cliff on 67P. There have been other outbursts and they may have similar causes. This explanation does not need "brilliant minds", just being sane enough to learn about basic physics and comets. A comet surface is made of ices and dust. If there is a landslide or other change in terrain, it is possible for fresh ices to be exposed to the Sun. That will cause a burst of sublimation and thus an outburst.
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Sol88 insanely cites and quotes again a paper saying asteroids are asteroids and comets are comets! Some "active asteroids" have transient comet-like activity due to impacts, spin-up and possibly pockets of ices.
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Old 20th March 2019, 01:03 PM   #3003
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How many years have the mainstream been working on a plausible explanation for cometary jets now?
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A totally insane question from Sol88 as usual.

We have had a plausible explanation (sublimating ices) for cometary jets for 70 years !
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Old 20th March 2019, 01:05 PM   #3004
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We still have zip, nada , nix, sweet fanny Adams
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An insane lie from Sol88 - we have 70 years of scientific literature explaining cometary jets with science
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That's the best you can do. 'ol mate?


Let me focus your goldfish like attention span RC.




Impact??? No

Spin Up??? Maybe but into plumes?? No

Landslide/Cliff Collapse??? No

Sublimation??? Then its a comet.

What else have I forgotten Reality Check?

Comet 67P has little to no ice but we also see plumes of particles erupting of the subsurface sometime explosively!

and the best of the best can only suggest collapsing cliffs as the cause... some brilliant minds at work here, bit like Reality Checks.

or

Asteroid–comet continuum objects in the solar system

as i believe, Reality Checks' deluded belief that Comets and Asteroids are separate well defined objects.

Seems like many here, he was wrong...again.
Seems like you don't know what you are talking about again. What is the density of Bennu? What does the surface look like compared to 67P? Not at all similar.
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Old 20th March 2019, 01:07 PM   #3006
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How many years have the mainstream been working on a plausible explanation for cometary jets now?

We still have zip, nada , nix, sweet fanny Adams

hint

Is the dust charged?

Is there an ambipolar electric field at comet 67P?

Mmmmmm....how-particle-accelerators-work
How would neutral gas be affected by that nonsense? Stop with the nonsense, already.
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Sol88 repeats his insane, irrelevant and lying questions.

We have detected charged dust and ice particles inside the coma of 67P.
Basic plasma plasma says there will be a ambipolar electric field inside the coma of 67P. There are measurements that say that that the the coma of 67P has a ambipolar electric field
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Bennu:



67P:

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Mmmmmm....how insanity works with a delusion that there are particle accelerators on the surface of comets and they explain cometary jets !

What makes this insane is that his "hints" are observations of the coma of 67P, not the surface.

We know that interacting plasmas such as the solar wind and a comet coma produce changing electric fields in the coma. Changing electric fields accelerate the charged particles (electrons, protons, ions, ice grains, dust grains)) in the coma. Well Duh .
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Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
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Mmmmmm....how insanity works with a delusion that there are particle accelerators on the surface of comets and they explain cometary jets !

What makes this insane is that his "hints" are observations of the coma of 67P, not the surface.

We know that interacting plasmas such as the solar wind and a comet coma produce changing electric fields in the coma. Changing electric fields accelerate the charged particles (electrons, protons, ions, ice grains, dust grains)) in the coma. Well Duh .
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How would neutral gas be affected by that nonsense? Stop with the nonsense, already.

The dust is charged.
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comet 67P or an asteroid?



[img width={800} height={600}]https://scitechdaily.com/images/Astronomers-Examine-the-Many-Faces-of-Rosetta%E2%80%99s-Comet-67P.jpg[/img]
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My post was textbook science that is nothing to do with Sol88's 10 years of insane delusions about comets.
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The dust is charged.
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comet 67P or and asteroid?
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The images in jonesdave116's post show that comet 67P and asteroid Bennu are visually different.

Sol88 insanely posts 2 enormous images of probably comet 67P that are obviously different from images of asteroid Bennu.
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The rocks on Bennu look suspiciously like the ice on 67P.

But remember the cardinal rule?

No looking at bunny pictures!
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Who cares anyway, all I’m interested in is

Jd116 said no can happen.
Can you please explain how this has any relevance to your failed 'model'? Otherwise, it is off-topic.
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The only real variable is the electric field strength/s.

Soon as I find a paper or article relating to the first ever close observation of these particle plumes we can discuss but can find nothing at the moment.


Otherwise ALL you have is the mechanism outlined by me and confirmed by Reality Check.

If from “outgassing”....trouble for mainstream.

What’s the electric field strength measured by OSIRIS-REX T Bennu?

Have we measured it?
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Also can the mods resize my pics, please.

The resize code I was trying to use did not work. What is the correct code to resize img with [img]…[\img]?
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The only real variable is the electric field strength/s.

Soon as I find a paper or article relating to the first ever close observation of these particle plumes we can discuss but can find nothing at the moment.


Otherwise ALL you have is the mechanism outlined by me and confirmed by Reality Check.

If from “outgassing”....trouble for mainstream.

What’s the electric field strength measured by OSIRIS-REX T Bennu?

Have we measured it?
What has the electric field got to do with anything?
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The rocks on Bennu look suspiciously like the ice on 67P. ...
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The images show that the asteroid Bennu happens to be covered in rocks that we know to be made of actual rock from the density of the asteroid, etc.
67P has a lot fewer ice and dust boulders.
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Jd116 said no can happen.
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This is a forum. Past posts can be read
20th March 2019 - Sol88 goes utterly insane with a post about the surprises from asteroid Bennu in a comet thread.
jonesdave116: Seems like you don't know what you are talking about again. What is the density of Bennu? What does the surface look like compared to 67P? Not at all similar.
More Sol88 insanity.
jonesdave116: Bennu and 67P surface images.
An utterly insane lie that jonesdave116 said that the observed dust plumes cannot happen !
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The only real variable is the electric field strength/s.
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Sol88's insanity and lie that he is capable of doing physics. 10 years of ignorance, delusions and lies with no actual physics work from him says otherwise.
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Otherwise ALL you have is the mechanism outlined by me and confirmed by Reality Check.
Sol88's insane electric comet playbook of ignorance, delusions, idiocy (god of the gaps/false dichotomy/irrelevant mainstream citations), insults (an insane one of Michael O'Hearn), lies

I have confirmed Sol88's insanity and lies, not any "mechanism outlined by me".
I have stated what a rational person would conclude from the observation of dust plumes on asteroid Bennu. A physically credible mechanism for the dust plumes is dust being ejected from spin and being channeled by the rough surface.
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If from “outgassing”....trouble for mainstream.
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Dust plumes caused by outgassing from sublimating ices is not a problem for the mainstream. The physical fact is that conditions in space can cause ices to sublimate. Thus any body with ices may cause dust plumes by outgassing from sublimating ices. Ices are not expected on asteroid Bennu so this is an unlikely but credible mechanism. On the other hand, Bennu is the first asteroid we have visited with hydrated minerals.

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What’s the electric field strength measured by OSIRIS-REX T Bennu?

Have we measured it?
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This is OSIRIS-REx with cameras and spectrometers as Sol88 could have easily looked up.
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Can you please explain how this has any relevance to your failed 'model'? Otherwise, it is off-topic.
Prediction.

Water and carbon dioxide ions will be detected within the “particle plume” eruptions from the surface of asteroid Bennu.

On topic because it is the same process that is in play at comets.

Electric fields are the link, they just vary in size and power between asteroids and comets. Based largely on just their orbits, as discussed.
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No plasma, electric and magnetic field instruments?
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What has the electric field got to do with anything?

Sol88’s eyes glaze over as it slowly dawns on him that concepts are actually a difficult thing to grasp.


I’m sorry jd116, reality check and co, but I’m still struggling to grasp the whole concept of cometary currents, electric fields and plasma phenomena and the detection of charged ions, electrons and DUST and the complete divorce from each other!

Which bit am I NOT getting? Especially in relation to said CHARGED particles and their interaction with said ELECTRIC FIELDS powered by ELECTRIC CURRENTS.

I’m missing something in this equation but after ALL these years just can’t grasp it.
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