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Old 10th November 2010, 02:56 AM   #1241
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Originally Posted by Blue Bubble View Post
Folks, it's

Charles's Book ...

not

Charles' Book


Oh, it's on, now.
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Old 10th November 2010, 04:25 AM   #1242
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Originally Posted by Blue Bubble View Post
Folks, it's

Charles's Book ...

not

Charles' Book


Actually, either is correct.
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Old 10th November 2010, 04:39 AM   #1243
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Actually, either is correct.
I would contend that it's not.
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Old 10th November 2010, 05:10 AM   #1244
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Actually, either is correct.
No.
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Old 10th November 2010, 05:26 AM   #1245
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Originally Posted by Blue Bubble View Post
I would contend that it's not.
Under what circumstances would you contend that?

In case it isn't clear, I am attempting to be slightly humorous and am taking no stance regarding the relative correctness or incorrectness of the two punctuations/spellings. In fact, since we have brought up relativity I think it fair to say that for me in my quantized state, the Uncertainty Principle comes strongly into play.
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Old 10th November 2010, 05:31 AM   #1246
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Under what circumstances would you contend that?
Under all circumstances.

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In case it isn't clear, I am attempting to be slightly humorous and am taking no stance regarding the relative correctness or incorrectness of the two punctuations/spellings. In fact, since we have brought up relativity I think it fair to say that for me in my quantized state, the Uncertainty Principle comes strongly into play.
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Old 10th November 2010, 05:38 AM   #1247
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add 's to the singular form of the word (even if it ends in -s):
the owner's car
James's hat (James' hat is also acceptable. For plural, proper nouns that are possessive, use an apostrophe after the 's': "The Eggles' presentation was good." The Eggles are a husband and wife consultant team.)
add 's to the plural forms that do not end in -s:
the children's game
the geese's honking
add ' to the end of plural nouns that end in -s:
two cats' toys
three friends' letters
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/621/01/
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Old 10th November 2010, 05:44 AM   #1248
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I feel obliged to point out that your link is not to the original Webster's or even Oxford English, and there is strong evidence that the bit you reference was not actually written by Josephus but added hundreds of years later by a Gaelic scribe.
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Old 10th November 2010, 07:31 AM   #1249
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Hellooooo! See the OWL in the link? That means it is wise. Sheesh.
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Old 10th November 2010, 08:06 AM   #1250
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How about:

Boden's ______________*

*Choose from the below:

book

Synonyms: album, atlas, bestseller, bible, booklet, brochure, codex, compendium, copy, dictionary, dissertation, edition, encyclopedia, essay, fiction, folio, handbook, hardcover, leaflet, lexicon, magazine, manual, monograph, nonfiction, novel, octavo, offprint, omnibus, opus, opuscule, pamphlet, paperback, periodical, portfolio, preprint, primer, publication, quarto, reader, reprint, roll, scroll, softcover, speller, text, textbook, thesaurus, tome, tract, treatise, vade mecum, volume, work, writing
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Old 10th November 2010, 08:09 AM   #1251
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How about:

Boden's ______________*

*Choose from the below:

book

Synonyms: album, atlas, bestseller, bible, booklet, brochure, codex, compendium, copy, dictionary, dissertation, edition, encyclopedia, essay, fiction, folio, handbook, hardcover, leaflet, lexicon, magazine, manual, monograph, nonfiction, novel, octavo, offprint, omnibus, opus, opuscule, pamphlet, paperback, periodical, portfolio, preprint, primer, publication, quarto, reader, reprint, roll, scroll, softcover, speller, text, textbook, thesaurus, tome, tract, treatise, vade mecum, volume, work, writing
Leave out the possessive altogether. Just call it "The Stewart Code."
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Old 10th November 2010, 08:09 AM   #1252
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Originally Posted by Emet View Post
How about:

Boden's ______________*

*Choose from the below:

book

Synonyms: album, atlas, bestseller, bible, booklet, brochure, codex, compendium, copy, dictionary, dissertation, edition, encyclopedia, essay, fiction, folio, handbook, hardcover, leaflet, lexicon, magazine, manual, monograph, nonfiction, novel, octavo, offprint, omnibus, opus, opuscule, pamphlet, paperback, periodical, portfolio, preprint, primer, publication, quarto, reader, reprint, roll, scroll, softcover, speller, text, textbook, thesaurus, tome, tract, treatise, vade mecum, volume, work, writing
Done!
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Old 10th November 2010, 08:16 AM   #1253
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How about:

Boden's ______________*

*Choose from the below:

book

Synonyms: album, atlas, bestseller, bible, booklet, brochure, codex, compendium, copy, dictionary, dissertation, edition, encyclopedia, essay, fiction, folio, handbook, hardcover, leaflet, lexicon, magazine, manual, monograph, nonfiction, novel, octavo, offprint, omnibus, opus, opuscule, pamphlet, paperback, periodical, portfolio, preprint, primer, publication, quarto, reader, reprint, roll, scroll, softcover, speller, text, textbook, thesaurus, tome, tract, treatise, vade mecum, volume, work, writing
Got me...
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Old 10th November 2010, 08:18 AM   #1254
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Hellooooo! See the OWL in the link? That means it is wise. Sheesh.
Does it not mean "oridnary wirzardry level" ?

A witch ! Hang him ! (or burn him if he is from EU).
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Old 10th November 2010, 08:27 AM   #1255
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I use Punctuation, Capitalization, and Spelling from the Schaum's Outline Series, and they state "If addition of an s after an apostrophe is undesirable bcecause of sound or appearance, add only an apostrohe." This is supported in other writing guides as well.

Since I've been doing it that way for decades, I'll continue. If I ever change, you'll know the pods finally got me.
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Old 10th November 2010, 08:57 AM   #1256
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I use Punctuation, Capitalization, and Spelling from the Schaum's Outline Series, and they state "If addition of an s after an apostrophe is undesirable bcecause of sound or appearance, add only an apostrohe." This is supported in other writing guides as well.

Since I've been doing it that way for decades, I'll continue. If I ever change, you'll know the pods finally got me.
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Old 10th November 2010, 09:30 AM   #1257
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A moss's rock rolls less far from truth than Charles' tome.

Shouldn't that be "A moss' rock rolls ..." ?
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Old 10th November 2010, 09:35 AM   #1258
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Shouldn't that be "A moss' rock rolls ..." ?
If thou wouldst but trouble to check both posessesivessesss in that sentence, thouse wouldst noticest's that I give equal time to both claim's.
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Old 10th November 2010, 10:11 AM   #1259
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OH, page 32 of this thread, I love you even more than page 7 of this thread... I didn't think it was possible, but it is true.

Isn't Garrette, I don't know, King or something? If so, doesn't he get to decide what to do with an apostrophes's use?

And I will henceforth call it THE BODEN CODEX, because that sounds even more mysterious and important and also requires no difficult apostrophe decision.
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Old 10th November 2010, 10:16 AM   #1260
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Skimming through the link, it seems the author must have, in a previous life, been molested by strawmen. In this life, he takes great pleasure in knocking them down.
(BTW: Page 7, thank you for this, but you needed much more to defeat page 32.)
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A moss's rock rolls less far from truth than Charles' tome.

Shouldn't that be "A moss' rock rolls ..." ?
To be serious for a moment, I recall that, when deciding whether it is preferable to add an apostrophe plus "s" to a one syllable word ending in "s," you should consider whether the final "s" is voiced (Charles or James) or voiceless (moss or Keats). In other words, you generally add 's to a voiceless "s." Moss' definitely doesn't sound right. On the other hand, people do say Keats'.
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To be serious for a moment, I recall that, when deciding whether it is preferable to add an apostrophe plus "s" to a one syllable word ending in "s," you should consider whether the final "s" is voiced (Charles or James) or voiceless (moss or Keats). In other words, you generally add 's to a voiceless "s." Moss' definitely doesn't sound right. On the other hand, people do say Keats'.
To remain serious, I used to think I was very good at grammar and syntax. Then I took German and learned I didn't know much. I got better at it and considered myself good again. Then I took Russian and learned I didn't know much. I got better and considered myself good again.

Then I came here and find I need to take English again because apparently being a native speaker isn't sufficient.


Sigh.... If only I were a native Mandarin speaker.
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Old 10th November 2010, 10:55 AM   #1263
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After spending a few weeks in China, I found Mandarin speakers to all sound like they're using Kermit the Frog's voice, especially with emphasis on the "r" with a lot of "z"s woven in. The accent became much easier for me after that.

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Old 10th November 2010, 11:24 AM   #1264
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Well, since Big Les is the purchaser, from here on I will call it Big Leses's Book.
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Old 10th November 2010, 11:50 AM   #1265
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Actually, many of us helped purchase it, so it should maybe be the Forums'es Book

(the extra 'e' gives it Extra flava...)
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Old 10th November 2010, 11:54 AM   #1266
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I shall call it:

BODEN'S FOLLY
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Old 10th November 2010, 11:58 AM   #1267
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I shall call it:

BODEN'S FOLLY
That would be a good alternate name for the book, maybe the title for the European Second Edition. Now, all we have to do is convince Charles to change the name of his book and get someone from Europe to order one so there will be a European Second Edition.
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Old 10th November 2010, 01:03 PM   #1268
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If thou wouldst but trouble to check both posessesivessesss in that sentence, thouse wouldst noticest's that I give equal time to both claim's.
Ah, the greengrocerererereres's' apostrophe...
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Old 10th November 2010, 01:12 PM   #1269
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Almost as bad as "unnecessary" quotation marks, such as:

"Boden's" Folly
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COOL! A European second edition will double the royalties my future me will rake in!
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COOL! A European second edition will double the royalties my future me will rake in!


You'll have pocketses full of cash.
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You've convinced me.

Will there be a Cantonese translation of the European Second Edition of Les of the Many Boden's of Folly "Books."?
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Brace yourselves!

Oh, to hell with this grammar Nazism! (Although I'd just like to say that in the UK the use of the apostrophe in Charles' book is perfectly acceptable.)

Ladies, gentlemen, persons of (genuine) royal descent, I do believe it's time for a spot of schadenfreude.

Earlier today I had a quick look at the history of the "Lady of Lawers" Wikipedia article and noticed something very interesting: when it first appeared on 28th March 2006 it began with the words:

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Around 1650, John Campbell of Lawers took for his wife a Stewart from the Appin district of Argyll. No one knows her Christian name as she was always referred to as Baintighearn Labhuir or the Lady of Lawers.
This is essentially the version of the tale that can still be found elsewhere on the net. Not until 24th December 2009 was it altered to read:

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Around 1630, John Stewart, second son of Laird Duncan Stewart 6th of of Appin, took for his wife a daughter of Sir James Campbell, Sherriff of Perthshire. Her Christian name was Mary Campbell, but she was always referred to as Baintighearn Labhuir or the Lady of Lawers.
I must admit that when I first read the link so kindly provided by Charles I felt a bit...suspicious. Where did this information come from? As we already know, the only person who believes that John Stewart married and had children is Charles Boden.

The edit was made by someone with the IP number 189.25.133.246 who has made no other edits to Wikipedia articles. Look what I discovered through www.ipaddresser.com:

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Reverse IP Lookup - 189.25.133.246
City/Region/Company: Rio de Janeiro
Country:Brazil


Charles, is this merely a coincidence? Is Rio de Janeiro crawling with expats obsessed with the Stewarts of Appin? Or have you been caught out in the act of manufacturing evidence?

Enquiring sceptical minds want to know!
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Oh, to hell with this grammar Nazism! (Although I'd just like to say that in the UK the use of the apostrophe in Charles' book is perfectly acceptable.

Ladies, gentlemen, persons of (genuine) royal descent, I do believe it's time for a spot of schadenfreude.

<snip>

Charles, is this merely a coincidence? Is Rio de Janeiro crawling with expats obsessed with the Stewarts of Appin? Or have you been caught out in the act of manufacturing evidence?

Enquiring sceptical minds want to know!

Wow, Alice! Just wow.
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I must admit that when I first read the link so kindly provided by Charles I felt a bit...suspicious. Where did this information come from? As we already know, the only person who believes that John Stewart married and had children is Charles Boden.

The edit was made by someone with the IP number 189.25.133.246 who has made no other edits to Wikipedia articles. Look what I discovered through www.ipaddresser.com:



Charles, is this merely a coincidence? Is Rio de Janeiro crawling with expats obsessed with the Stewarts of Appin? Or have you been caught out in the act of manufacturing evidence?

Enquiring sceptical minds want to know!
I bow down to your superlative investigative skills.
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I must admit that when I first read the link so kindly provided by Charles I felt a bit...suspicious. Where did this information come from? As we already know, the only person who believes that John Stewart married and had children is Charles Boden.

The edit was made by someone with the IP number 189.25.133.246 who has made no other edits to Wikipedia articles. Look what I discovered through www.ipaddresser.com:



Charles, is this merely a coincidence? Is Rio de Janeiro crawling with expats obsessed with the Stewarts of Appin? Or have you been caught out in the act of manufacturing evidence?

Enquiring sceptical minds want to know!
Let me test my predictive powers: Go ahead and slam a good amount of "citation needed" tags in there, and i predict that soon enough his book will be added as a citation source. By someone with an IP-Number in Brazil, that is.

In any case, great find, and far too strange to be just a coincidence.

Quite funny how things in this puzzle fall together. He copypasted quotes from his book, and a forumite found that book then. Then he gives some strange ancestry story and references WP and soon enough a forumite will find that strange coincidence in the articles edit history.

Somehow i'm sure that if someone would go to that strange "spiritualist center" over there, that person would surely find out that Charles was talking about his supposed royal ancestry all the time, and thus made it easy for the medium to get and use that piece of information.

I'll bet a six-pack of tasty german beer on all that.

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Oh, to hell with this grammar Nazism! (Although I'd just like to say that in the UK the use of the apostrophe in Charles' book is perfectly acceptable.

Ladies, gentlemen, persons of (genuine) royal descent, I do believe it's time for a spot of schadenfreude.

Earlier today I had a quick look at the history of the "Lady of Lawers" Wikipedia article and noticed something very interesting: when it first appeared on 28th March 2006 it began with the words:



This is essentially the version of the tale that can still be found elsewhere on the net. Not until 24th December 2009 was it altered to read:



I must admit that when I first read the link so kindly provided by Charles I felt a bit...suspicious. Where did this information come from? As we already know, the only person who believes that John Stewart married and had children is Charles Boden.

The edit was made by someone with the IP number 189.25.133.246 who has made no other edits to Wikipedia articles. Look what I discovered through www.ipaddresser.com:



Charles, is this merely a coincidence? Is Rio de Janeiro crawling with expats obsessed with the Stewarts of Appin? Or have you been caught out in the act of manufacturing evidence?

Enquiring sceptical minds want to know!
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