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Old 14th September 2018, 10:13 AM   #81
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Might have been said already, but might the ability to sue foreign gov'ts just be a generic provision being played up to satisfy part of the base? As in even Graham doesn't really believe it but is talking the talk, knowing no meritorious suit will ever come of it?
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Old 14th September 2018, 10:26 AM   #82
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Might have been said already, but might the ability to sue foreign gov'ts just be a generic provision being played up to satisfy part of the base? As in even Graham doesn't really believe it but is talking the talk, knowing no meritorious suit will ever come of it?
This. I'd say Congress isn't doing trutherism, they're doing politics. Which often looks very similar to CT, but is done by the establishment, rather than those resiling against the establishment.
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Old 14th September 2018, 10:48 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Ahem.



You even replied to this post.
Sorry, I'm losing track of which thread is which...
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Old 14th September 2018, 03:32 PM   #84
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I think Atta had a driver's license that said he was Oscar Diaz?
No, he had a DL with his own name on it--the pissed-off looking photo of him that has been used since Day 1 is from his Florida Driver's License.
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Old 14th September 2018, 03:56 PM   #85
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Well, the Saudi embassy, lead by Prince Bandar, is implied in several lines of evidence. Prince Bandar is not one of the 15,000 also-theres, he is the long-time ambassador to the USA, and later head of the Saudi intelligence system. He was surely top-50 among the Princes and government officials. Plus, he is often portrayed as a good personal friend of GW Bush - who surely wasn't good friend with 15,000+ members of the royal family.
The Saudis have a ton of money, and so they use it to buy influence. I am sure that one of the many ways Bandar buys influence is that he funds a lot of Saudi-in-America charities. This ensures that the royal family will have friends in the US Saudi communities.

The guy who got al-Mihdhar his apartment was a Saudi named Omar al-Bayoumi. He was trying to start a mosque in San Diego, and hence had been funded by the Saudis to the tune of about $400K. He got them a unit at the complex he was living at and paid their first month's rent, but he was promptly reimbursed, according to this article which goes into excellent detail on the San Diego connection.

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The 28 pages also mention that Bayoumi received $400,000 to start a new mosque in San Diego. According to U-T archives, Bayoumi was the building maintenace manager for Kurdish mosque in El Cajon that was created through a gift from a Saudi citizen, not the Saudi government.

The community told the U-T at the time that it was common for wealthy Saudis to offer such help to other Muslims because of the emphasis on charity in the religion, so the donation was not considered suspicious.

Bayoumi moved to the U.K. before 9/11. He was detained there and interviewed.

Bill Gore, who was the special agent-in-charge for the San Diego FBI field office at the time, said he sent agents to the U.K. to talk with Bayoumi, and he concluded that Bayoumi did not know the true intentions of the hijackers for being in the country.
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Old 15th September 2018, 01:40 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
Sorry, I'm losing track of which thread is which...
No worries- it happens.
Anyway, we're in agreement about Al Qaeda and the House of Saud, which is the main thing.
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