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Old 8th October 2018, 03:21 PM   #1
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Beluga Whale in the Thames

The rare Beluga whale which found itself in the Thames is still frolicking about at Gravesend.

It seems concerning that after all this time, it hasn't made its way back to the sea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-eng...list-equipment

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The rare beluga whale swimming in the River Thames off Gravesend is being monitored with specialist listening equipment in an attempt to find out if it's in distress.

The animal is thousands of miles away from its natural habitat and experts say they need to learn all they can about it.

Any solutions?
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Old 8th October 2018, 03:30 PM   #2
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A shedload of dicey kebabs?
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Old 8th October 2018, 03:36 PM   #3
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Beluga taste like dice?
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Old 8th October 2018, 03:42 PM   #4
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Whale-A-pult?


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Old 8th October 2018, 03:57 PM   #5
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Where's Trebuchet when you need him?
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Old 8th October 2018, 04:11 PM   #6
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They used to have price on their head back in the day ... in 1928, the Government of Quebec offered a reward of 15 dollars for each dead beluga. Their skin makes decent leather too.
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Old 8th October 2018, 04:22 PM   #7
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I've seen LOTS of bad catapult depictions, but that's pretty much the worst ever!
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Old 8th October 2018, 04:47 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
I've seen LOTS of bad catapult depictions, but that's pretty much the worst ever!

From my experience, worst ever bad depiction is sort of the stock-in-trade of that particular comic. Just look at the one for today.
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Old 8th October 2018, 04:50 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by HighRiser View Post
Beluga taste like dice?


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Old 8th October 2018, 05:33 PM   #10
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing, and keep us posted.

We get an occasional whale here in the SF Bay every decade or so.

ETA: on second thought, this case is much more unusual in that the whale is so far from it's natural habitat.
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Old 8th October 2018, 05:53 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
Interesting. Thanks for sharing, and keep us posted.

We get an occasional whale here in the SF Bay every decade or so.

ETA: on second thought, this case is much more unusual in that the whale is so far from it's natural habitat.
Maybe not. Do the herring run up the Thames? Or did they used to?

And yeah with the 'stray' whales. We get the occasional Gray into San Diego bay. It was a calfing ground until the Nantucket whalers found it. Ever read Richard Henry Dana's "Two years before the mast" ? So I bet SF bay is "natural habitat" too.
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Old 8th October 2018, 10:47 PM   #12
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Isn't the Thames brackish rather than sea-salt water at that location? Depending on the tide? Is a lot of "fresh" water in the mix (meaning ionic strength, not pure: this is the Thames you know) okay for Beluga's long term?
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Old 8th October 2018, 10:49 PM   #13
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IF it dies, and I hope anything but, tell them to not try o blow up the corpse with a lot of dynamite. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/thar-she-blows/
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Old 8th October 2018, 11:48 PM   #14
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The rare Beluga whale.........
They're not rare at all. They're common. Their conservation status is rated by the IUCN as "of least concern". They are the most common whale species in captivity, too.

They are of course rare in our waters as they are an arctic whale, but the Thames is more than "brackish" at Gravesend where this animal is most commonly seen, it is very much a saline estuary. At that point, the river is almost a kilometre wide, so anyone thinking this whale is swimming about in a stream has got the wrong mental picture. The Thames is tidal and brackish up past the Pool of London and the Houses of Parliament as far as Teddinton Lock (it used to be tidal as far upstream as Staines, before the lock was installed). Other cetaceans have been seen as far upstream as the Pool of London (HMS Belfast). Teddington Lock is in West London between Richmond/ Twickenham and Kingston upon Thames.

This is what the Thames looks like from Gravesend. The whale has plenty of room to turn around and head in the other direction if that's what it decides to do.
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Old 8th October 2018, 11:54 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
Isn't the Thames brackish rather than sea-salt water at that location? Depending on the tide? Is a lot of "fresh" water in the mix (meaning ionic strength, not pure: this is the Thames you know) okay for Beluga's long term?
All populations of belugas use estuaries during the summer months they can vary the concentration of salt evacuation in their urine when they move from salt water, to freshwater.
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Old 9th October 2018, 12:08 AM   #16
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..... Do the herring run up the Thames?......
Yes, but it's a very small scale thing. Thames kippers (smoked herring) used to be renowned and sought after.
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Saw a couple of dolphins/porpoises/similar at Greenwich a few years ago. I think this sort of thing captures the public imagination, but there's a element of concern after the last (seems like the last, maybe not strictly true) well-publicised whale visitation didn't end so well.
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Old 9th October 2018, 04:50 AM   #18
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they can vary the concentration of salt evacuation in their urine when they move from salt water, to freshwater.
Everybody can do that, except for you. I'm doing it right now, in fact.
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Old 9th October 2018, 09:49 AM   #19
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Where's that wooden-legged man with the harpoon, now that London needs him!
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Old 9th October 2018, 10:27 AM   #20
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Maybe it's really a merman.
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Typical double standard: illegal immigration is fine if they're white.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_the_Whale

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This time, he was successfully guided back to the Pacific Ocean using a combination of "oikomi" simultaneously with the broadcast of attractive sounds of humpback whales preparing to feed from a boat headed towards the open ocean. Researchers Louis Herman and Bernie Krause led a team of scientists who used sound recordings of natural whale feeding vocalizations to guide Humphrey back to safety. These sounds were produced for a swimming trajectory of 50 miles (80 km) until Humphrey reached the Pacific Ocean, sometimes attaining speeds of 30 miles per hour (48 km/h).[12]
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
They're not rare at all. They're common. Their conservation status is rated by the IUCN as "of least concern". They are the most common whale species in captivity, too.

They are of course rare in our waters as they are an arctic whale, but the Thames is more than "brackish" at Gravesend where this animal is most commonly seen, it is very much a saline estuary. At that point, the river is almost a kilometre wide, so anyone thinking this whale is swimming about in a stream has got the wrong mental picture. The Thames is tidal and brackish up past the Pool of London and the Houses of Parliament as far as Teddinton Lock (it used to be tidal as far upstream as Staines, before the lock was installed). Other cetaceans have been seen as far upstream as the Pool of London (HMS Belfast). Teddington Lock is in West London between Richmond/ Twickenham and Kingston upon Thames.

This is what the Thames looks like from Gravesend. The whale has plenty of room to turn around and head in the other direction if that's what it decides to do.
This.

I hear the whale turned around and headed for Kent when it heard the price of a pint of beer in central London.
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Nooooooo...! Please don't call a whale 'Humphrey'. Or 'Benny'. Arrrrrgh!
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Maybe it's really a merman.
Could be. It's got shoulders.
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Could be. It's got shoulders.
But no arms. Eighteen feet long, and with a big hole in the back of it's head. Yeah, easy mistake to make.
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If they had a naming contest for the whale in England, the results would be:

1. Whitey McWhiteyface
2. Whalesie McWhalesieface
3. Beluga leucasi
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If they had a naming contest for the whale in England, the results would be:

1. Whitey McWhiteyface
2. Whalesie McWhalesieface
3. Beluga leucasi
I favor Whale Spice.
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I've seen LOTS of bad catapult depictions, but that's pretty much the worst ever!
So you've seen lots of whale-a-pults have you?
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