|
Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today. |
9th August 2012, 01:06 AM | #1 |
Thinker
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 241
|
Melvin Morse arrested for waterboarding daughter
Woo-woo purveyor Melvin Morse has been arrested for accusations that he abused his eleven-year-old daughter.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/09/justic...html?hpt=hp_t1 http://www.spiritualscientific.com/ |
9th August 2012, 01:47 AM | #2 |
Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,814
|
Let him go. It's not abuse.
|
__________________
"Great innovations should not be forced [by way of] slender majorities." - Thomas Jefferson The government should nationalize it! Socialized, single-payer video game development and sales now! More, cheaper, better games, right? Right? |
|
9th August 2012, 03:15 AM | #3 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 47,042
|
Waterboarding isn't torture (apparently) but it could be abuse.
|
9th August 2012, 03:34 AM | #4 |
Motor Mouth
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,796
|
I am appalled by the alleged crimes, even more so by the apparent humour that people seem to get from it.
I'm referring to the comments below the article linked. Not sure about those above. I assume it's reference to Guantanomo, but it's not very nice. |
9th August 2012, 07:47 AM | #5 |
Philosopher
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,778
|
|
9th August 2012, 07:52 AM | #6 |
Skepticifimisticalationist
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Gulf Coast
Posts: 28,589
|
Being locked in a room or cell is not torture either; yet parents who do this to their children are routinely arrested.
|
__________________
"¿WHAT KIND OF BIRD? ¿A PARANORMAL BIRD?" --- Carlos S., 2002 |
|
9th August 2012, 09:29 AM | #7 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 22,331
|
I'm not sure why water-boarding wouldn't count as torture, given that it's a horrible experience that most adults can't take for any amount of time and causes people to even sign their own death sentence just to end the ordeal. Especially when I read something in the article like, I kid you not:
The girl said her father said "she could go five minutes without brain damage," the newspaper reported, citing court documents.FIVE MINUTES? Jesus Haploid Christ, even terrorists aren't put through five minutes of that. What kind of monster puts a 11 year old through that? And the reference to brain damage is just making it worse, because basically he knows what he's doing to that child. Waterboarding IS basically drowning in slow motion, as water does accumulate into the lungs. It's what makes it a horrible experience, as, for all the senses can tell, the brain thinks you ARE drowning. Getting anywhere near the point where that can cause enough oxygen deprivation to even think about the possibility of brain damage is... an atrocity in any case, but doubly so when we're talking about a pre-teen child. |
9th August 2012, 11:45 AM | #8 |
Great Dalmuti
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 8,266
|
|
__________________
"If it's real, then it gets more interesting the closer you examine it. If it's not real, just the opposite is true." - aggle-rithm |
|
10th August 2012, 07:35 AM | #9 |
Goddess of the Glowing Sunsets
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 466
|
I'm having doubts with this story. All evidence seems to come from one 11 year old girl. It is not uncommon for an 11 year old to fabricate gruesome stories, where they are the centre of interest. Imagine how important it makes you feel if the police comes to save you, and everybody believes you, and makes you tell it over and over again. And Dad is taken away for being strict with you, yay.
One comment said: the father has a history of abuse, while all I got out of the story was that he was once accused of abuse, which is not the same. If it is true I am appalled by both parents, and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But I am not convinced just yet. |
__________________
Epiphanette (a very small epiphany): that kind of tingly, excited feeling of realizing that you were wrong, and that you have to adjust your world view accordingly. - With thanks to Weak Kitten and Blue Sock Monkey. I am 100% confident all professional psychics and mediums are frauds. The rest might be sincere but are still deluded. |
|
10th August 2012, 09:01 AM | #10 |
No longer the 1
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 30,147
|
Is this purely abuse, or somehow related to his NDE "research"?
|
10th August 2012, 09:14 AM | #11 |
Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,432
|
I agree with you. All accusations need to be investigated when it comes to children, but to assume he is guilty from the article is a bit preemptive.
I wonder if there were any signs of abuse when the girl went to the friend's house and told the dragging story? I would think that being dragged by one foot across a gravel driveway would leave a mark. That is an obvious question the reporter should have asked before reporting. |
10th August 2012, 10:47 AM | #12 |
Philosopher
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Seattle
Posts: 7,375
|
Indeed. The article I read said the girl had previously lied about being abused.
Quote:
It doesn't nullify the need for a thorough investigation, of course. |
Thread Tools | |
|
|