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Old 14th October 2018, 06:59 PM   #1641
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A few interesting things emerging from the Judgement. Firstly, Miller (the IHC practitioner) had explained to the Court at trial that traces of unknown DNA may have come into contact with the shirt from someone sneezing. Later the Court refers to the 'vast' [para 343] distance between where the shirts spots were in order to indicate that there was no accidental contamination of either spot by Christine. The Court dismisses evidence of intruders in the house because of its belief that CNS is proven to be on the shirt, of course no one can now say that CNS is human and it's link to Christine by way of her DNA being found on the shirt has many scientific papers in support of 'spousal' DNA exchange. However suspect male DNA under both deceased persons nails the Court felt was of no moment, nor the lights being on at the house around 11pm shortly after the computer was turned off and at a time a neighbour noticed a sliding door open. The Court also attributed the 'savagery' of the attack to ML despite there is not a single instance of him having ever been violent, being prosecuted for violence, or police called to the address as the result of domestic disturbances.
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Old 15th October 2018, 01:14 AM   #1642
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From the judgement

The post-mortem evidence indicated
that there was food in both Mrs Lundy’s and Amber’s stomachs of a type that is not
available at McDonald’s, and therefore likely to have been consumed at a time
considerably later than around 6 pm.

I think this is a false statement, the evidence was solely from Christine's stomach, non MacDonald fries in a state where they had just been eaten. Photo graph here

http://www.injusticeanywhereforum.co...194602#p194602
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Old 20th October 2018, 12:12 AM   #1643
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interesting aspect of the first trial
Page 1170, Van der Kolk cross examines Mark.

Well Mr Lundy Amber seemed to be a creature of routine according to all your family members, that's right isn't it?

Yes

And well behaved in that regard?

Very.

And well-disciplined, self-disciplined, in fact?

Yes.

.................................
So the crown estab lished in 2002 she was very well behaved, but in 2015 had to be eating at midnight so stomach contents lined up with a 3am death.

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Old 20th October 2018, 12:17 AM   #1644
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When two strange events concurr we can consider statistical clustering, and allow the possibility.

Here we have the cluster

1. Amber ate at midnight which she never did before on ananmestic evidence.
2. Amber got murdered at 3 am ditto.

The appeal court have used false information to sustain this clustering, and this will be demonstrated in future proceedings.
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Old 18th November 2018, 12:54 PM   #1645
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People ask what happened in the Lundy murders, and this testimony from the 2002 trial illuminates

Prosecutor Butler cross examines the business partner who has name suppression to this day.

“Come to the 29th of August 2000 – did u hv a visitor that day in relation to the root stock?
Yes 1 did,

And can u tell us something abt that mtg?
The supplier came to our property and was 5 little agitated that he hednt bn paid for hi root stock, at which stage I informed him that paymt
for the root stock was not due until the 20th of Sept as per the S & P agreement.

I believe he was under some financial pressure himself and he proceeded to take product out of our chiller unit that was not his.

Did u do anythg when he started to do that?
Yes I did, the man was considerably taller and heavier than myself and I felt intimidated so I made a call to the local Police stn
and they sent out two constables.

Did u let Mark Lundy know this had happd, or try to?
In the afternoon I rang the Lundy residence, and was talking to Christine, and mentioned to her what had happd, because I wanted to find out
how Mr Bland’s enquiries had bn going.

Did Christine say anythg to u abt the whereabouts of Mark Lundy?
Yes she did, she mentioned to me that Mark was in Wgtn on business and would not be home until the next day.”

From this exchange we learn two things.

1. There was financial stress all around.

2, If this guy didn’t know Mark was out of town then essentially no one but his wife knew.

Later that evening Christine and Amber were tragically killed by someone looking for Mark, in an endeavour to persuade him to pay up the invoice to this business partner, who kept allaying his many creditors with this golden 550k invoice, just the right figure to supply rootstock for a 120 acre vineyard planting, but not yet due

This looks like a narrative that makes sense. The idea that you kill your family in the hope you commit the perfect crime, and collect a woefully insufficient 250k insurance to salvage the enterprise makes, well, no sense at all.

Remember this latest appeal has been dismissed on one ground only, the testimony from the 2015 trial that PURE CNS tissue (not brain or Christine’s) is on the shirt. This is a false scientific finding that is being shredded
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