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16th October 2020, 10:41 AM | #3521 |
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16th October 2020, 10:47 AM | #3522 |
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They can also use it as a Both Sides Are Bad argument if someone in a swing state invalidates a large number of Democratic ballots. The story would be "voter suppression allegations by both sides" and only below the fold will we see it described that the CA GOP was ordered to stop and warned repeatedly while the other guy just decided "screw this blue zip code in particular."
It's an unfortunate situation that what would be a ridiculous CT in other circumstances is worth considering here, because the only thing we know for sure about the intent of these illegal boxes is they're lying about whatever they say it is. |
16th October 2020, 10:51 AM | #3523 |
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You added nothing to that conversation, Barbara. |
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16th October 2020, 10:59 AM | #3524 |
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I went and looked it up. According to the California's Secretary of State's website:
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That section includes the name of the person, their relationship to you, and their signature. So if they drop it off in these collection boxes, how can they fill out the authorization section if they don't know who is going to be turning them in? Granted, there's nothing physically preventing whoever is turning them in from filling out that section. But that'd be straight up fraud. |
16th October 2020, 11:19 AM | #3525 |
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16th October 2020, 11:21 AM | #3526 |
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The GOP or pastor or gun store owner could fill that out. Does it say the voter has to verify the person designated was designated by the voter?
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Let me look for an image. OK I looked at the envelope, (not easy to link to the pdf file). It says: Name of person designated to return the ballot Their signature Their relationship to you (the voter). Since the law says a group or organization may be designated, all the GOP needs to do is properly label the drop boxes. From there a group rep can sign the envelope. |
16th October 2020, 11:23 AM | #3527 |
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Good thing this thread will probably get a new continuation because the past couple of pages are a little off-topic. There’s probably a better place for nuts & bolts of what state parties are doing.
So to return to a more specifically Trumpism topic: He has sowed such confusion about mail-in voting that I don’t quite trust putting my ballot in the post. I want Biden to have a good showing on Election Day itself. Middle ground is to drop it off at an official county collection center. Trump has primed me to believe there will be problems so he has kind of “won” already. Per California, those private boxes COULD be “tossed” then “found” to suggest Trump votes are being tossed. Since the GOP doesn’t need Trump votes there. Down ticket races, I don’t have enough info to evaluate the possibility. But the point IMO is to foster a widespread notion that any offsite voting is tainted. |
16th October 2020, 11:36 AM | #3528 |
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16th October 2020, 11:39 AM | #3529 |
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16th October 2020, 11:41 AM | #3530 |
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Yeah, it should go in the 2020 election thread. Sorry, I was just following the flow.
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