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Old 18th October 2017, 03:47 PM   #41
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This seems relevant.

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Mississippi GOP Sen. Thad Cochran insists that he is not retiring from Congress, despite widespread speculation about the veteran lawmaker’s health and political future.

The 79-year-old Cochran appeared frail and at times disoriented during a brief hallway interview on Wednesday. He was unable to answer whether he would remain chairman of the Appropriations Committee, and at one point, needed a staffer to remind him where the Senate chamber is located.

“Don’t believe everything you hear,” Cochran said in a low voice when asked whether he planned to retire after 44 years in office.

However, when queried over whether he would stay on as Appropriations chairman, Cochran seemed confused and just repeated the question. “As chairman of the Appropriations Committee?” Cochran asked.

Cochran had to be guided around a security checkpoint inside the Capitol by staffers. He began to walk into a first-floor room — the Senate chamber is on the second floor — and was retrieved by an aide. He was then taken up to the Senate.
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Old 18th October 2017, 03:53 PM   #42
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You think perhaps his constituents didn't know how old he was, when they considered returning him to office recently? I mean, what relevant disclosure would you have him make, here? "Hey guys, I'm really old! And kind of out of it! Like old people get! So now you know! Vote wisely!"

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Old 18th October 2017, 04:01 PM   #43
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Voters are not employers. Representatives are not employees or contractors. Voters are voters and representatives are representatives.
Oh yes they are. They vote dependent on the information available. I think that at a person who is able to apply law (Congressman, Senator, Judge, etc) should have their ability to make decisions in a healthy and rational manner be open to scrutiny.
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Old 18th October 2017, 04:02 PM   #44
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Oh yes they are. They vote dependent on the information available. I think that at a person who is able to apply law (Congressman, Senator, Judge, etc) should have their ability to make decisions in a healthy and rational manner be open to scrutiny.
Which is an idea independent of being an employee or not.
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Old 18th October 2017, 05:03 PM   #45
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No, not entitled.

The voters have severe concern as to the mental health of their elected officials. This isn't like employment. Their mental health is exactly, and properly, something to consider when voting for them.

I hear something along that nature happened recently.
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Old 18th October 2017, 05:20 PM   #46
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The voters have severe concern as to the mental health of their elected officials. This isn't like employment. Their mental health is exactly, and properly, something to consider when voting for them.

I hear something along that nature happened recently.
I absolutely agree it should be considered.
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Old 20th October 2017, 02:46 AM   #47
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Is that something voters are entitled to know about?
Not directly. There could simply be some qualification exam that politicians must pass every year, and before listing as candidates in elections. Whatever is considered to be necessary minimum mental performance for a politician. If I say that they should pass the Mensa test with minimum IQ score 100, some people would say that this discriminates against the lower 50% of population.
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Old 20th October 2017, 09:13 AM   #48
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I'm pretty sure HIPAA prevents insurance companies and health providers, including pharmacies, from disclosing health information to employers without authorization. The congresscritters are employees of the federal government, even though many of them profess to hate it. So no, that's not allowed.

Elected officials are the government, and not employees of it, in that sense (even though they get paid.) I have to keep punching this point as a bit of political reality.

It would require a law to require them to give it up. That's unlikely, unless this Alzheimer's medicine thing explodes. They can be dragged to do an unfavorable, to them, law if the public demands it loudly enough. This was done when they voted to reveal the large list of members abusing the Congressional Post Office for big loans they never paid back, in that scandal.
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