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Old 5th March 2019, 04:41 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I think capitalism would work quite well if the lowest on the ladder were still able to live decent lives and afford the necessities. I don't mind if some people are eating off gold plates aboard their emerald-studded yachts floating in the pools inside their hover-mansions provided everybody else can afford at least normal plates and food and not die of preventable diseases because they don't have healthcare. There's nothing wrong with excess at the top so long as there's adequacy at the bottom, but that's not what we have now.

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Old 5th March 2019, 04:55 AM   #82
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I think Mr Overton's done all this, hasn't he?
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Old 5th March 2019, 09:09 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal View Post
So.... no actual dispute of the numbers then? Just lying for a pathetic racist agenda that has NOTHING to do with the topic at all?
You didn't make an argument so there's nothing to dispute.

It's related to the topic because Americans already give illegal aliens free heathcare https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...ed-immigrants/

So there's no point comparing the political spectrum of a diverse country like the US to a white supremacist one like Norway.

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Old 5th March 2019, 09:11 AM   #84
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Norway's white supremacist?

I thought Scandinavian countries were multicultural hellholes. Make up your minds!
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Old 5th March 2019, 11:20 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
Norway's white supremacist?

I thought Scandinavian countries were multicultural socialist hellholes. Make up your minds!
FTFY.
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Old 5th March 2019, 12:35 PM   #86
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Here's one guy's account of his horrendous experience with socialized medicine:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...=.e2548c1ece2e
In the US, if you have health insurance and received the care at an "in network" hospital or clinic, the bill would have been ~ $800, with maybe $650 paid by insurance and the rest out of pocket. If you were insured but the facility was out of network, your insurance would have paid $650, but the bill would have been ~$8000, with you responsible for the remaining $7350. If you were uninsured, you would be on the hook for the whole $8000, and likely end up filing for bankruptcy.
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Old 5th March 2019, 12:41 PM   #87
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It's the outlier among developed nations. Our land is the only place this happens in all of the developed world.
I think the truth is that the US is slipping out of the developed world. We are rapidly approaching the third world model of a small, very wealthy elite and a whole lot of poor people who are barely scraping by, and yes, this is largely due to right-wing policies.
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I think the truth is that the US is slipping out of the developed world. We are rapidly approaching the third world model of a small, very wealthy elite and a whole lot of poor people who are barely scraping by, and yes, this is largely due to right-wing policies.

Well I'm totally convinced.
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