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Old 15th March 2019, 12:54 AM   #1
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Did Trump just threaten us?

How crazy is Trump, exactly? Does he really believe the military, the police, and the bikers would rise up against the collective will of the American people in support of HIM, DONOLF TRUMPLER?

Lawrence doesn't think so. He thinks Trump was just running off at the mouth again. Crazy, unhinged, but just another squirt of verbal diarrhea from Trump's incontinent mouth, Lawrence thinks.

Interestingly, Trump didn't include the nazis in his threat, no doubt because he and his are currently accusing Democrats of being Jew-haters. So threatening to unleash his obsequious nazis on us would have been inconvenient at this time.

Lawrence makes a good case for feckless verbal diarrheah. But even if that's all it is, I wonder if we can afford to allow such threats to go unanswered. We don't want politikers to get into the habit of threatening us, do we?

https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/...-1458517571680
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Added to my list of things If Obama Had Said... that would make Republican heads explode.
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Old 15th March 2019, 01:35 AM   #3
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I don't think it was intended as a threat. I think it was another case of his mouth being directly connected to what's left of his brain, without a filter to block his violent retribution fantasies of his cult rising up against the injustices the Dear Leader suffers. That said, I think we can expect more incidents of unstable people reacting to that rhetoric as if it were a call to action, like the MAGA bomber.
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Was this before or after it became public that the NZ mosque shooter said he was an admirer of Trump's?
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Old 15th March 2019, 02:21 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by WilliamSeger View Post
I don't think it was intended as a threat. I think it was another case of his mouth being directly connected to what's left of his brain, without a filter to block his violent retribution fantasies of his cult rising up against the injustices the Dear Leader suffers. That said, I think we can expect more incidents of unstable people reacting to that rhetoric as if it were a call to action, like the MAGA bomber.
Ah. He was only publicly fantasizing about threatening us. Verbalized wishful thinking.

Which raises the question in my mind as to whether he gains or loses votes by indulging in such violent fantasies - i.e., how many other crazies are also fantasizing in that manner?
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Old 15th March 2019, 02:44 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Was this before or after it became public that the NZ mosque shooter said he was an admirer of Trump's?
Trump's comment was a day earlier.
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It was a threat. About the only leaders who may get away with this are military dictators, Putin and...............Trump.

I'm beyond laughing. I now just shake my head about the state of a once great nation.
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Why does Lawrence think dentists are pussies?
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Old 15th March 2019, 03:27 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
Trump's comment was a day earlier.
Thanks.
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Us?


Lol.

Is this the new designated safe space?
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Old 15th March 2019, 03:31 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Was this before or after it became public that the NZ mosque shooter said he was an admirer of Trump's?
Trump's already been compared to Hitler you're going to have to do better than this
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Old 15th March 2019, 03:36 AM   #12
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We've been repeatedly reminded by his supporters, not to take things that President Trump says literally, but to take them seriously instead.

My personal view is not that President Trump has any intention of doing anything coup-like. Instead I think he is pre-stirring some righteous indignation in his supporters just in case he has some significant reverses and reassuring his supporters by saying that the people that they look up to, also support the President.
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Old 15th March 2019, 04:23 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Trump's already been compared to Hitler you're going to have to do better than this
I was asking a question because I wanted to be better informed on the subject before offering an opinion. Anything else you're inferring comes entirely from your own imagination.
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Did Trump just threaten us?
Yes.
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Old 15th March 2019, 04:27 AM   #15
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Obviously Trump is planning to change the Constitution and be President for life.
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Old 15th March 2019, 04:38 AM   #16
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We've been repeatedly reminded by his supporters, not to take things that President Trump says literally, but to take them seriously instead.
I've always thought this was a snappy catchphrase for Trump, but also total BS.

The same supporters loudly extol his virtue if saying what he means. The same supporters constantly excuse him because he "wasn't serious".

I think Trump is to be taken biblically literally. From moment to moment, whatever level of literal interpretation most benefits their wants and goals is the correct one. The thing about shrimp or rich people not getting into heaven we don't take literally. But the thing about gays we do.

Mexico wouldn't literally pay for the wall. But we will literally build a wall. Unless we can't in which case we meant slightly expanded border fencing all along. Unless that doesn't solve all our problem, in which case we meant a big physical wall and you need to give it to us now.
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Old 15th March 2019, 04:43 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by ChrisBFRPKY View Post
Obviously Trump is planning to change the Constitution and be President for life.
Much more likely, Trump is fantasizing that his cult will insist on it.
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What did Trump said? Can't watch the video in the OP due to being at work.
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What did Trump said? Can't watch the video in the OP due to being at work.
"You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher."

So he didn't make a blatant threat, but his fantasy about it is clear enough.
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Old 15th March 2019, 05:21 AM   #20
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Trump has a long history of threatening to hurt and kill his various enemies.

For example, does anyone else recall Trump saying:

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. Trump said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

Trump said this in August, 2016 when he was discussing what would happen if Clinton became president and got to appoint judges to the Supreme Court.
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Half threat, half wishful thinking.

I can easily see some suicidal member of Trump's radical base willing to throw their life away in an act of mass violence, but I'm not overly concerned that large institutions like the military or police are going to rise up in some form of coup to protect him from a lost election or criminal proceedings. I'm more worried about lone wolves and loosely organized alt-righters committing acts of terrorism than I am about the US Army marching on DC.

The fact that a US president would even suggest such a thing is, of course, unconscionable. If this country manages to emerge from this crisis of a presidency intact, much work needs to be done to shore up the rule of law. We are fully experiencing the shortcomings of expecting norms to protect this country from slipping into tyranny.
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I consider it a threat, probably as close to a threat as Donnie thinks he can get and still preserve some deniability. At best, it's the kind of statement no responsible American political leader would ever make, has ever made.

Some people are concerned this is all part of a long range strategy for Trump to invalidate the 2020 election results if he is defeated. To claim it was due to massive voter fraud and his supporters the American people (his supporters being the 'real' Americans) will not tolerate it. Now he's prepping his troops, getting them riled up. Scary times.
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Betteridge says no.
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Old 15th March 2019, 05:59 AM   #24
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I would be looking elsewhere, apparently trump is quite good at distracting the media and the public from other shenanigans.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ctions-delight

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“One of the things that I have found absolutely thrilling in working for this administration,” said Balash,“is the president has a knack for keeping the attention of the media and the public focused somewhere else while we do all the work that needs to be done on behalf of the American people.”

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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
"You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher."
My god, the man simply cannot speak well. Even aside from the content anyone who speaks so clumsily has no business leading anything. I know five year olds who are more articulate. With bigger vocabularies as well.
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Us?


Lol.

Is this the new designated safe space?
President threatens violence against political opponents? Phfft. Questionable pronoun usage? Hrumph!

Glad to see you have your priorities in order! When in Rome: lol

All hail the Banana Republican in Chief.
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My god, the man simply cannot speak well. Even aside from the content anyone who speaks so clumsily has no business leading anything. I know five year olds who are more articulate. With bigger vocabularies as well.
He may of course be tailoring his language to his audience....
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Us?


Lol.

Is this the new designated safe space?
Yeah. Us, as in we who support the Constitution, the rule of law, and the peaceful transfer of power.

You know, the stuff the military and the cops used to support before they were apparently minionized like a bunch of mindless yellow weenies, if Trump is to be taken "seriously".
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Added to my list of things If Obama Had Said... that would make Republican heads explode.
He tries to re-ignite a volunteer public service movement and they said he was recruiting Brown Shirts.
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Trump's already been compared to Hitler you're going to have to do better than this
Touchy about those Hitler comparisons, are you?

Guess you'll just have to suffer. I ain't takin it back. That fat orange turd would be just like Hitler if he had the brains and the vocabulary, and lost 60 lb, which he could easily do without getting into what little muscle he has.
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The threat level here reminds me of when I was five years old and threatened my parents that my plushies and dolls would come for them.
Run you mean people! Raggedy Ann's gonna make you hurt!
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The threat level here reminds me of when I was five years old and threatened my parents that my plushies and dolls would come for them.
Run you mean people! Raggedy Ann's gonna make you hurt!
Yeah, except for the fact that his rhetoric is known to launch the occasional loon into murderous attack mode.
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The threat level here reminds me of when I was five years old and threatened my parents that my plushies and dolls would come for them.
Run you mean people! Raggedy Ann's gonna make you hurt!
I wish it was that benign.

However, when a sitting president incites violence, then violence often does ensue in some way, shape or form.
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My god, the man simply cannot speak well. Even aside from the content anyone who speaks so clumsily has no business leading anything. I know five year olds who are more articulate. With bigger vocabularies as well.
It's really troubling. Not just the poor speaking, but the poorly thought out content. This OP is a classic example. I'm sure he thought it was playground bluster. A reasonable person broomhandle would be sensitive enough not to say such a thing.
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The threat level here reminds me of when I was five years old and threatened my parents that my plushies and dolls would come for them.
Run you mean people! Raggedy Ann's gonna make you hurt!
I hope they took your candy away for a week for that.

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The threat level here reminds me of when I was five years old and threatened my parents that my plushies and dolls would come for them.
Run you mean people! Raggedy Ann's gonna make you hurt!
Then Raggedy Anne walks into a newspaper office and shoots 5 people dead.

The moron may not mean/understand what he's saying, but there is a well documented affect.
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"You know, the left plays a tougher game...
I notice increasingly Trump refers to Democrats as the left. As a lifelong registered Democrat I really resent that. By most standards, today's Democratic Party is very conservative compared to actual left-oriented parties in other nations. What does he want?

I get that it's probably just a rhetorical device he uses to divide society into 'us versus them' but that's a terrible way for the president White House guy to govern. This is going to be another USFL, I just know it.

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The threat level here reminds me of when I was five years old and threatened my parents that my plushies and dolls would come for them.
Run you mean people! Raggedy Ann's gonna make you hurt!
Tell that to the politicians and news organizations that received pipe bombs in the mail from a Trump cultist.

Tell that to the protesters who were behaving lawfully and were roughed up at Trump rallies, at Trump's urging.

Tell that to the politicians and news organization who received threats from a Trump cultist in Oregon, who was found with a cache of pipe bombs and guns.

Tell that to the interracial couple attacked by a knife-wielding Trump cultist.

Tell that to the homeless man of Mexican descent who was beaten by Trump cultists.

Tell that to the reporters who cover Trump rallies as the cultists are being egged on by Trump -- "enemies of the people".

Tell that to the black teenager who was beaten while handcuffed by a Trump cultist police chief -- "Donald Trump is the last hope for white America".

Tell that to the 49 people in NZ killed by a Trump cultist.

I could go on at great length. Raggedy Ann my ass.
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"You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher."

So he didn't make a blatant threat, but his fantasy about it is clear enough.
Why does this remind me of a mafia thug trying to extort protection money from a businessman?

"Nice store you have here. Its a rough neighborhood. Shame if something bad happened to it. "

And by the way.... does anyone question why he'd throw both the police and bikers in the same category? After all, its not like those 2 groups are natural allies.
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Old 15th March 2019, 08:16 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by Toontown View Post
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Trump's already been compared to Hitler you're going to have to do better than this
Touchy about those Hitler comparisons, are you?
You would figure Trump and his supporters would like the Hitler comparisons. After all, as we found out, neo-nazis are fine people.
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