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View Poll Results: Where will Trump be two years from now?
Dead 6 5.36%
In prison 12 10.71%
Impeached 11 9.82%
Voted out 52 46.43%
Reelected 22 19.64%
Planet X 9 8.04%
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Old 1st January 2019, 02:08 PM   #41
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I suppose the Ecuadorian embassy is out now that they expect their guests to clean up after themselves.
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Old 1st January 2019, 06:17 PM   #42
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I do so hope Mueller is just waiting for the new Congress to settle in before he releases that report.
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Old 1st January 2019, 06:46 PM   #43
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I suppose the Ecuadorian embassy is out now that they expect their guests to clean up after themselves.
Especially since his fixer, Cohen, isn't there to clean up after him anymore.
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Old 1st January 2019, 08:49 PM   #44
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I picked voted out, but it's probably about 50/50 between that and reelected.

He should be impeached and/or in prison, but of course that isn't going to happen.

Dead is too unpredictable. Trump is old, and doesn't look in good health. The stress of the Presidency can finish a man off, but honestly I doubt Trump finds being President particularly stressful most of the time. Or at least, no more than his life before it.
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Old 1st January 2019, 09:00 PM   #45
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I picked voted out, but it's probably about 50/50 between that and reelected.

He should be impeached and/or in prison, but of course that isn't going to happen.

Dead is too unpredictable. Trump is old, and doesn't look in good health. The stress of the Presidency can finish a man off, but honestly I doubt Trump finds being President particularly stressful most of the time. Or at least, no more than his life before it.
He is probably far more stressed about having his tax returns made public which would expose he is not a billionaire at all. He is also probably stressed at the prospect of his base finally realising he is a lazy, lying con-artist and grifter. Because they will TURN so hard! And then who will he have to sell his shonky steaks and real estate academies to!
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Old 1st January 2019, 09:54 PM   #46
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I cannot believe that this man will not die of a stroke before the end of his term.
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There's no sense in playing the denial game with wishful thinking....

The world will be stuck with Conald Twittler for another six years.

The only glimmer of hope is that Mueller will mop the floor with him. But let's face it, the odds are stacked against Mueller from accomplishing any criminal charges against a sitting president. And I have zero faith in the American people to pull their collective heads out of their asses.

Thus, Trump will be reelected in 2020.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 08:54 AM   #48
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I really don't see a point on betting on impeachment. If it looks like Mueller is about to drop a huge bombshell, Stupid will fire him and declare the whole thing "Super duper classified" (yes, he will invent that specific version). Even if the really damning stuff leaks out and has Stupid on tape agreeing to work with a foreign state, adjusting policy, and then firing investigators to cover it up, and the HoR votes to impeach, the Republicans in the senate will not remove him from office. They are either compromised themselves, too scared of the domestic terrorists in the base, or both. No matter how tough they might talk about rule of law, they will get in line

A failed impeachment attempt will only play out in the media as typical partisan squabbling. It may actually help his re-election bid.
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In a supermax prison for life. Bubba's bitch. Bankrupt. Ruined. Melania writes the biggest tell-all book of all time.
I sure do hope that things actually do work out that way.
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I cannot believe that this man will not die of a stroke before the end of his term.
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Old 2nd January 2019, 10:35 AM   #52
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As of today: 75/25 re-elected/voted out.

His RCP average approval held in the low 40s over 2018 which is about average for presidents and currently bodes well for his re-election.
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I'm guessing resigned just before his term is up, having secured a promise of pardon from President-to-be Pence.
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His disapproval rating is also well over 50%.
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I'm guessing resigned just before his term is up, having secured a promise of pardon from President-to-be Pence.
It would be funny if Mueller actually nails Pence first and the Senate Republicans are too ashamed to confirm Jared as VP. Can a sitting VP be indicted?
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I don't really see "Planet X" as a joke response as fleeing to exile to evade jail seems like a remote possibility. Hiding Trump in Russia, safe from extradition, could be one last poke in the eye to America from Putin.
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See, if he had any sort of self-awareness whatsoever, he would blanket pardon all of his children including Jared and then immediately resign.

But that would require him to be able to understand basic human decency and that's just never going to happen.
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As of today: 75/25 re-elected/voted out.

His RCP average approval held in the low 40s over 2018 which is about average for presidents and currently bodes well for his re-election.
You will need to provide evidence for this, tovarich.
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Old 3rd January 2019, 12:01 AM   #59
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It would be funny if Mueller actually nails Pence first and the Senate Republicans are too ashamed to confirm Jared as VP. Can a sitting VP be indicted?
It isn't even clear that a sitting president can't be indicted. Nothing in the Constitution states anything about this. I see no reason why a VP couldn't be.

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Legal experts are divided on that question. The Supreme Court has never ruled on whether the president can be indicted or whether the president can be subpoenaed for testimony.

The Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, which provides legal advice and guidance to executive branch agencies, has maintained that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Two Justice Department reports, one in 1973 and one in 2000, came to the same conclusion.
https://www.boston.com/news/politics...hile-in-office

I predict that if the Mueller Report exposes truly egregious criminal wrongdoing, there will be a challenge to the DOJ's opinion. I also think this is exactly why Trump nominated Kavanaugh who made known his opposition to indicting a sitting president.
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Old 3rd January 2019, 12:39 AM   #60
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He'll be re-elected.
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He'll be re-elected.
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Only if this country has completely lost its mind.
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Only if this country has completely lost its mind.
Ahem. Donald Trump is the President.
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Ahem. Donald Trump is the President.
Hey, most American voters didn’t vote for him.
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Dammit! That was expensive champagne you just made me spit out my nose.
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12:00 am, drinking champagne on New Years, and you're checking in here?

This forum is definitely a sick addiction because I know I wouldn't still be here if it weren't. I hate this place!
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Guessing seems kind of ridiculous to me since it seems as if the one thing we can count on with Trump is the unexpected.
Yep, predictions regarding Trump seem even more futile than most predictions.

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Still, I'm inclined to believe that enough evidence will be found to persuade Republicans that they have had enough of Trump and that continued support of Mr. Looney Tunes is not in their best interest.

But unless there is proof of criminality that points directly at Trump beyond obstruction, I think he will simply be voted out of office.
I give it 60% chance he does not win re-election some of that 60% because there's a chance he won't run again and some of it because he may just not win if he does. I highly doubt he will be impeach and its even less probably that he will be convicted if impeached.

That being said, if Mueller finds solid evidence that Trump committed a crime during the campaign, my above prediction is totally wrong.


I think that most of the republican leadership knows that trump is poison in the long run but to mix metaphors, they have a tiger by the tale and if they let go, all his supporters are going to eat them for lunch.

Side note, I'd probably be more willing to vote for him now than prior to his election. He hasn't been nearly as bad as I expected. We aren't in recession yet and we aren't in any new wars. The new wars thing is a vast improvement over his last two predecessors.

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Impeachment is removal from office. It is not a legal matter, a state matter to decide if the president is unfit. He has been unfit from Day 1.
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Impeachment is removal from office. It is not a legal matter, a state matter to decide if the president is unfit. He has been unfit from Day 1.
This is oddly wrong. Impeachment is the process by which a legislature indicts or levels charges against a public official. If impeached, the official may be removed from office but impeachment is not actually removal from office. As shown by the fact that Bill Clinton was impeached however, he remained in office afterward.
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No Lee Harvey Oswald option? Planet X, where wishful thinkers go for recovery.

Or quite possibly reelected. The Democrats are likely to soon alienate those who've tentatively come over, being the loose thinkers they are. No counter-punching skills, sloppy optics, bad teamwork, rarely on point, wishful and impractical thinking... everything you might expect in genuine democracy... just not good enough to beat a Goebbels 2.0 operation.
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This is oddly wrong. Impeachment is the process by which a legislature indicts or levels charges against a public official. If impeached, the official may be removed from office but impeachment is not actually removal from office. As shown by the fact that Bill Clinton was impeached however, he remained in office afterward.
Its whatever the body doing the impeachment decides.

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job (as president) in this constitutional republic if this body determines your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” Graham says of Clinton in the nearly 20-year-old clip.

https://www.thestate.com/news/politi...217126395.html

I wonder if he'll hold to those words.
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12:00 am, drinking champagne on New Years, and you're checking in here?

This forum is definitely a sick addiction because I know I wouldn't still be here if it weren't. I hate this place!
I gave up partying on NY's Eve years ago. Too many damn drunks on the road and yes, this place is addictive.
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Its whatever the body doing the impeachment decides.

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job (as president) in this constitutional republic if this body determines your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” Graham says of Clinton in the nearly 20-year-old clip.

https://www.thestate.com/news/politi...217126395.html

I wonder if he'll hold to those words.
Put the bong down and step away.
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12:00 am, drinking champagne on New Years, and you're checking in here?

This forum is definitely a sick addiction because I know I wouldn't still be here if it weren't. I hate this place!
Thanks for narrowing down your own location for us. I'll pass that along to the Deep State.

Do you know that Stacyhs is in your time zone? Do you know that the software reports posts in "your" time and not the local time of the poster? Do you know that I'm posting from tomorrow?
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Put the bong down and step away.
"Takes a hit"... I think he might but *cough* not because he's good or moral, but because he wants to run for prez.
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"Takes a hit"... I think he might but *cough* not because he's good or moral, but because he wants to run for prez.
Graham changes position than often than the Kama Sutra.
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Its whatever the body doing the impeachment decides.

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job (as president) in this constitutional republic if this body determines your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” Graham says of Clinton in the nearly 20-year-old clip.

https://www.thestate.com/news/politi...217126395.html

I wonder if he'll hold to those words.
Someone on the internet disagrees with me so....

Also wrong. A president or any other official of the federal government can be impeached for any reason the house deems, true. Then the Senate gets to decide whether that official is removed from office. In the US federal government this can be done for any reason as you suggest, rules are probably more clear in other jurisdiction but the congress could clarify what sort of behavior warrants or does not warrant impeachment via law by defining "high crimes and misdemeanors". The impeachment is still just the leveling of charges not removal from office as was suggested in the post I was responding too earlier.

Its a pedantic point, I admit. Impeachment is to removal from office as indictment is to conviction.

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Impeachment is removal from office. It is not a legal matter, a state matter to decide if the president is unfit. He has been unfit from Day 1.

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Hey, most American voters didn’t vote for him.
Yes, but you could also say that about every American president in history (probably - I haven't checked).
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And if his term gets shortened it will be because he steps down, Nixon style. And he won't be in prison in two years, not with the lawyers his money will buy. 5 years maybe.
It's not about his money (well...) but his judgement. He'll pick a lawyer who doesn't have the spine to tell him the most important piece of advice "Just shut the F up..." I mean look at his current history with the lawyers, I'd hardly dexcribe them as winners
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It's not about his money (well...) but his judgement. He'll pick a lawyer who doesn't have the spine to tell him the most important piece of advice "Just shut the F up..." I mean look at his current history with the lawyers, I'd hardly dexcribe them as winners
Are you actually suggesting that Giuliani isn't a winner?
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