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Old 27th February 2019, 03:59 PM   #281
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Oh dear, the relevance is that the leftists' newest and bestest buddy Michael cohen is congenital liar of Hillarian Proportions.
The shame for you TBD is that he has been such a liar for one DJT for years! He obviously learned from the Master. And as has been pointed out here numerous times after 2 years of investigation by Mueller and his team do you honestly think anything he has said today will not be supported by good, hard physical evidence. I know the Maroon in Chief you support will scream fake news and the rest of his base alongside you will pretend to believe it. To the rest of the world your man is pretty much done up like a kipper.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:01 PM   #282
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Originally Posted by wasapi View Post
You can not second guess a narcissist. I believe Trump is more then capable of violence.
He is 72 years old. His body of work is close to having that final line drawn under it. It seems absurd to think he is about to go full brutal mob boss now. His scrutinised life so far shows only a man born into privilege who abused his social and wealth position to bully others.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:02 PM   #283
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
You understand that i have already expertly and with actual legal citations nuked that false comment from orbit, right?
You are making zero sense. Reread my post and try again.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:03 PM   #284
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Sure. You see there is something called an Information. let me know when you have read the entire Information I linked earlier.

/so to confirm, you did claim you are an attorney, right?
Thanks for setting aside the time to walk me through it so thoroughly. I really appreciate the effort and hope that you enjoyed the process as much as I did.

And based on that thorough process I think we can stick with: The lie Cohen pleaded guilty to telling was that Trump did nothing wrong.

Unless you have some objection that wasn't covered when you walked me through it.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:04 PM   #285
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Just read Cohen's belief that if he loses in 2020 Trump will not go quietly.
I have no doubt, if he loses, Trump might well go into Cody Jarrett in "White Heat" mode and try to go out in a blaze of glory:

"Top of the World, Ma!".
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:08 PM   #286
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
You think Congress ought to give a medal to someone who admitted lying* to Congress and is going down the river for it in a couple of months. Fascinating.

*and by lying I am taking into account the length and breathe of human existence where humans are infinite bits of grey on a sliding scale from being to nothingness.... namaste.
He’s telling the truth now. America loves recovering crooks, alcoholics and addicts! Produgal son, redemptuon and all that crap!
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:09 PM   #287
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Originally Posted by timhau View Post
You got to work with what you got. And when you don't get much...
It's molehills all the way down.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:10 PM   #288
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Urgh. Michael Cohen is the worst kind of sleazeball slimy unreliable witness. Disgruntled convicted-of-lying ex-attorney. What a snake in the grass.
That's why Trump picked him as his lawyer and had him on his team for so many years.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:22 PM   #289
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I had sort of hoped, when Trump was elected, that the mainstream GOP would sort of act as a control and keep him within bounds.
The opposite had happened. The GOP..with a few honorable exceptions have sold their souls to Donald Trump.
For me, the turning point was Charolltesville. When the GOP Congresscritters defending Trump on that, I knew they had lost all sense of decency.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
'k



READ: Michael Cohen's plea agreement



Not kidding you folks are really entertaining TBD this afternoon.
If you roll over I will give you a tickle on the tummy.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:32 PM   #291
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Here, I'll throw the bone:



Yes, Cohen is a liar.



Happy now?



Now let's have a fun test, and determine who has not
Trump? Manafort? Stone? Don Jr? Flynn?
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
That CongressGrifter Michael Cohen himself set up that fake account filled with lies.
He also did illegal acts for Trump.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:38 PM   #293
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Cohen lied to Congress about the details of an otherwise totally legal project.

the lies were the crimes, not anything Trump did.
Trump ordered the lies.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:41 PM   #294
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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
I think you misunderstand me.

It is very rare for narcissists to use physical violence to control people. Clayton Weatherston is an extreme example of a "vindictive narcissist"; a type that is far more likely to commit violence, but when they do, it is extremely violent and is very often the end game. After having emotionally manipulated and controlled the person they are in a relationship with for an extended period of time, there will be some perceived slight that will be the trigger, and they will explode in a fit of blind rage that would have given almost no indication that it was coming. Weatherston was brooding, quiet, almost shy in his outward persona. His murder of Sophie Elliot was the exacting of revenge in an enormous overreaction to the slight he felt for her leaving him.

Trump is a different kettle of fish; he is almost certainly a "grandiose narcissist". This type is almost never physically violent - as I said, too cunning to risk leaving marks. Hitting Melania in an elevator would be totally out of character both for Trump and someone of his pathology.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...-how-deal-them
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:53 PM   #295
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
determine who has not... lied to Congress?
Admitted to lying to Congress?
Pled guilty of lying to Congress?
Got convicted of lying to Congress?
Is going to jail for lying to Congress?

I know, I know!

Michael Cohen!
It must really hurt you inside that he was your dear leader's number one guy.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
That CongressGrifter Michael Cohen himself set up that fake account filled with lies.
Have you ever lied, TBD? To anyone? Ever?
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Kinda like me and this thread, Watching some of the Leftists' heads exploding in fits of red-faced, spittle-filled real outrage has been truly, truly entertaining, indeed.
I had no idea you were a leftist.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:55 PM   #298
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Just read Cohen's belief that if he loses in 2020 Trump will not go quietly.
I have no doubt, if he loses, Trump might well go into Cody Jarrett in "White Heat" mode and try to go out in a blaze of glory:

"Top of the World, Ma!".
Oh yes

If he loses, I fully expect Trump to to scream "rigged election" from the rooftops.
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Old 27th February 2019, 04:57 PM   #299
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Congressman who did the racist thing, Trump's black friend proves he's not a racist, gets called on it by a black Congresswoman. Goes into a pearl clutching outrage, settled by Cummings clarifying the accusation was general, not personal. Nice one. Prevents the testimony from being stricken from the record, takes the teeth out of the Congressman's outrage while leaving the blatant (and valid) accusation intact. Whether he's a racist or not, the tactic was racist.
All while Meadows sits there red faced, looking about to either bawl, or faint. Gotta admit, it's nice to have someone in the House to call that sort of foolishnessness out.

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I think you misunderstand me.

It is very rare for narcissists to use physical violence to control people. Clayton Weatherston is an extreme example of a "vindictive narcissist"; a type that is far more likely to commit violence, but when they do, it is extremely violent and is very often the end game. After having emotionally manipulated and controlled the person they are in a relationship with for an extended period of time, there will be some perceived slight that will be the trigger, and they will explode in a fit of blind rage that would have given almost no indication that it was coming. Weatherston was brooding, quiet, almost shy in his outward persona. His murder of Sophie Elliot was the exacting of revenge in an enormous overreaction to the slight he felt for her leaving him.

Trump is a different kettle of fish; he is almost certainly a "grandiose narcissist". This type is almost never physically violent - as I said, too cunning to risk leaving marks. Hitting Melania in an elevator would be totally out of character both for Trump and someone of his pathology.
Hmm...Consider the divorce records from his first wife - got hair plugs that hurt, and proceeded to beat the mess out of her and raped her.
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
I think you misunderstand me.

It is very rare for narcissists to use physical violence to control people. Clayton Weatherston is an extreme example of a "vindictive narcissist"; a type that is far more likely to commit violence, but when they do, it is extremely violent and is very often the end game. After having emotionally manipulated and controlled the person they are in a relationship with for an extended period of time, there will be some perceived slight that will be the trigger, and they will explode in a fit of blind rage that would have given almost no indication that it was coming. Weatherston was brooding, quiet, almost shy in his outward persona. His murder of Sophie Elliot was the exacting of revenge in an enormous overreaction to the slight he felt for her leaving him.

Trump is a different kettle of fish; he is almost certainly a "grandiose narcissist". This type is almost never physically violent - as I said, too cunning to risk leaving marks. Hitting Melania in an elevator would be totally out of character both for Trump and someone of his pathology.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...-how-deal-them
I think it's a mistake to suggest that Trump is never physically violent because he's a narcissist. I'm not saying he ever hit Melanie. I have no opinion either way, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Kinda like me and this thread, Watching some of the Leftists' heads exploding in fits of red-faced, spittle-filled real outrage has been truly, truly entertaining, indeed.
You haven't been "watching" that. You've been imagining it, spurred by your hopeful interpretation of their habitually Trump-condemning comments. Wave your hand in front of your eyes to snap yourself out of it. That's it. Watch the hand. The hand is real. The exploding heads are hallucinatory.

That's just the way "Leftists" talk. It's like when you Christians are bad-mouthing atheists. Your heads aren't exploding. You're just badmouthing atheists. Right?

Jeez, dude. Maybe you better find somebody else to take verbal bullets for. Yeah, I see you spraying wild automatic bursts back in the other direction, but there's just no future in this Trump-defending. You spray a magazine at one leftist, then Trump misdirects an arty strike on you again and then five more leftists pop up behind you. And now even his former loyalists are turning. Think about that. Cohen used to be Trump's avowed bullet-taker. Could you even distinguish him from a "leftist" today?

Yeah, I know you don't know what I'm talking about. It's analogy, see. I'm likening your efforts here to being in a war against "leftists" with Trump as your commanding officer.

Yeah. Think about that. Think about Trump being your C.O. in a war. Maybe you'll see the light.
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Urgh. Michael Cohen is the worst kind of sleazeball slimy unreliable witness. Disgruntled convicted-of-lying ex-attorney. What a snake in the grass.
I can think of a couple more witnesses just as slimy and unreliable.

Cohen plead guilty instead of pleading innocent. He took responsibility for his wrong doing. That says something.
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It must really hurt you inside that he was your dear leader's number one guy.

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Trump ordered the lies.
TBD would have preferred it if Cohen had told the truth to Congress at his first testimony. That Trump is a shameless grifter, conman and liar.
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Does one need the secret decoder ring in order to determine Trump's instructions to Cohen? If so, where can one purchase the correct decoder ring? I'd really like to know what these secret codes contain and exactly how we can prosecute President Trump based on these damning coded instructions to Cohen.

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Does one need the secret decoder ring in order to determine Trump's instructions to Cohen? If so, where can one purchase the correct decoder ring? I'd really like to know what these secret codes contain and exactly how we can prosecute President Trump based on these damning coded instructions to Cohen.

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TBD would have preferred it if Cohen had told the truth to Congress at his first testimony. That Trump is a shameless grifter, conman and liar.
You see, TBD thinks that Cohen told the truth the first time he testified before Congress, and then, for some reason, even though he was telling the truth, he said that he actually lied, and got charged for lies he didn't actually tell because they were not lies, they were truths. Now, he's actually telling the truth and TBD thinks he's lying because both can't be the truth, and he prefers to believe whatever true lies fit his personal truths. Got that?.

And he thinks leftists jump through hoops?
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Democrats hate America so much they would schedule this rat liar to testify while president Trump meets with Chairman of N. Korea.
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Does one need the secret decoder ring in order to determine Trump's instructions to Cohen? If so, where can one purchase the correct decoder ring? I'd really like to know what these secret codes contain and exactly how we can prosecute President Trump based on these damning coded instructions to Cohen.

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Does one need the secret decoder ring in order to determine Trump's instructions to Cohen? If so, where can one purchase the correct decoder ring? I'd really like to know what these secret codes contain and exactly how we can prosecute President Trump based on these damning coded instructions to Cohen.

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Democrats hate America so much they would schedule this rat liar to testify while president Trump meets with Chairman of N. Korea.
Where he'll manage to make as much progress with his "great friend" as he did last time.
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Democrats hate love America so much they would schedule this rat liar to testify while president Trump meets with Chairman of N. Korea.
FTFY

Yes, I know, you're cain.... but, but, but, I just couldn't help myself.
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You see, TBD thinks that Cohen told the truth the first time he testified before Congress, and then, for some reason, even though he was telling the truth, he said that he actually lied, and got charged for lies he didn't actually tell because they were not lies, they were truths. Now, he's actually telling the truth and TBD thinks he's lying because both can't be the truth, and he prefers to believe whatever true lies fit his personal truths. Got that?.

And he thinks leftists jump through hoops?
That's what Trump does to some people. I don't know how he does it. Somebody must have sold him the tech. Probably Russia.

But it doesn't work on everybody.
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Old 27th February 2019, 06:08 PM   #314
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Democrats hate America so much they would schedule this rat liar to testify while president Trump meets with Chairman of N. Korea.
The conman’s lawyer rats on the conmn. Meanwhile the conman is so taken with a dicttor, he lets Kim con him.
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?????
During the hearing Cohen was pressed about saying that Trump never directed him to lie to congress. Cohen agreed to his previous statement, then suggested Trump gave him instructions in "code" and gave an example of this "code".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFf7Za9lV-4

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Originally Posted by ChrisBFRPKY View Post
During the hearing Cohen was pressed about saying that Trump never directed him to lie to congress. Cohen agreed to his previous statement, then suggested Trump gave him instructions in "code" and gave an example of this "code".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFf7Za9lV-4

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Old 27th February 2019, 06:20 PM   #317
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Isn't TBD the one who, several months ago, claimed that lying to congress (or maybe investigators) was not a crime?
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Pro Tip: Google "Plausible Deniability"
I got it, but more importantly, this clearly lets Trump off the hook for any suggestion of telling Cohen to lie to Congress. Impeachment dreams are shattered.

How is he helping the Democrats again?

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Paul Gosar, the GOP congressman who did the Liar lair pants on fire routine, also thinks that Charolttesville is the result of a left wing conspiracy.
Man ,that heat in Arizona does weird things to people....
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Democrats hate America so much they would schedule this rat liar to testify while president Trump meets with Chairman of N. Korea.
It would appear it is the other way round.

Trump loves himself and his own image so much that he scheduled a meeting with the Chairman of N. Korea in an effort to distract from a "rat liar" testifying against him to Congress.
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