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Old 9th March 2018, 11:29 AM   #81
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Future Nobel Peace Prize winner.....Donald Trump
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Old 9th March 2018, 11:32 AM   #82
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The same year Mills gets awarded in Physics for giving the hydrino to mankind.
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Old 9th March 2018, 11:35 AM   #83
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The last time we were in this position was the Saudi Arabia trip. How did that turn out?
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Old 9th March 2018, 11:36 AM   #84
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Future Nobel Peace Prize winner.....Donald Trump
No, they'll give it to Kim. Remember Le Duc Tho?
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Old 9th March 2018, 11:39 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
Was there another way to interpret it?
Incorrectly.
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I do know the order is switched. It is rather apparent from the three generations of Kim's that have ruled north korea. I have no compunction to be proper or accurate on addressing public leaders. I'm only interested in being comprehended.
You will have to work on that last bit.
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Old 9th March 2018, 11:57 AM   #87
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Jokes are much better when the punchline is explained. I imagine Trebuchet thanks you for improving his quip.
That wasn't an explanation, just playing (apparently unnecessarily) to the straight line we were fed
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Old 9th March 2018, 12:02 PM   #88
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Originally Posted by Drewbot View Post
Trump always promotes a win-win-win Negotiating tactic.

For Example:

North Korea wins because Un is the hero and wins by opening his country to trade and aid. He becomes the hero that re-unified North and South. Trump frames them as the Switzerland of area.

Region wins by denuclearizing the North.

Trump wins by doing that which no president has been able to do.


Cute

Alternate snark:

I had no idea the U.N. was held in such esteem by the North Koreans!

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Old 9th March 2018, 12:25 PM   #89
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I'm curious about where this will happen. North Korean leaders are famed for never flying, always traveling on an armored train. Will Lunch Box go to the South? I doubt the DoD or Secret Service would support a meeting at the DMZ. Vladivostok is an option as are a couple of cities in China. Of course the Russians and Chinese would want something to use their territory.

Kim can't go to the South, give up anything to the US and then return. The loser always goes to the victor.
Does Skype not count as face to face? Seems like a simple solution to me.

Trump cannot go to N Korea because the US will require he brings a huge security entourage with him and that would never be acceptable to Kim.

I'm not sure how safe Kim feels in that demilitarized border meeting room and I'm not sure how both sides bring arms into the room. I doubt either leader would go without armed contingents.

That leaves China for a location. But who knows day to day what China's relationship with Kim is.

I'm voting for Skype.
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Old 9th March 2018, 12:35 PM   #90
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Originally Posted by eeyore1954 View Post
Any possibility that this is the result of President Trumpís planned actions with North Korea and China and that a good outcome may emerge.



Sorry, all I see here is that Trump's imaginary version of himself includes solving the NK problem for the next couple months until the meeting time comes. Then his imaginary world will shift to excuses and blaming others depending on the actual outcome.

Chances are pretty good nothing at all will change.
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Suckabee used different wording in the press conference throwing the whole thing into the Twilight Zone.

North Korea: no testing until the summit.

Suckabee: NK has to go full de-nuke (which she couldn't define when asked by our gal in the pressroom, April) before the meeting will take place.



Stress and failure to maintain her perfect record might be getting to Suckabee.
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Old 9th March 2018, 01:25 PM   #92
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Suckabee used different wording in the press conference throwing the whole thing into the Twilight Zone.

North Korea: no testing until the summit.

Suckabee: NK has to go full de-nuke (which she couldn't define when asked by our gal in the pressroom, April) before the meeting will take place.



Stress and failure to maintain her perfect record might be getting to Suckabee.
It's hard to work for an administration where the president does not set policy.
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Old 9th March 2018, 01:27 PM   #93
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Trump cannot go to N Korea because the US will require he brings a huge security entourage with him and that would never be acceptable to Kim.
It's going to happen. Trump will go to North Korea and meet with Kim. It will be like when Nixon went to meet with the Chinaman.
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Old 9th March 2018, 01:48 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
It's hard to work for an administration where the president does not set policy.
It's hard to work for a president who doesn't let making appointments eat into his golfing time.

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"The last remaining US diplomat with experience of talking to the North Koreans, Joseph Yun, left his post on Friday, and the US currently has no ambassador in Seoul, since the White House withdrew the nomination of another experienced diplomat, Victor Cha. No replacement nominees have been announced."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...administration
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Isn’t this the chap who claimed he hit a couple dozen holes-in-one the first time he played golf?

Remind me again, which of the two was it?
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To much negativity here.

These guys might just hit it of in a great way. The nutter from USA and the nutter from North Korea. Good if they could get the nutter from The Philippines there as well. Just imagine the rapport between these guys.
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No, they'll give it to Kim. Remember Le Duc Tho?
Yeah, he was awarded it with Henry Kissinger, but Le Duc Tho declined it.
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To much negativity here.

These guys might just hit it of in a great way. The nutter from USA and the nutter from North Korea. Good if they could get the nutter from The Philippines there as well. Just imagine the rapport between these guys.

Mixed nuts

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Yeah, he was awarded it with Henry Kissinger, but Le Duc Tho declined it.
I really doubt that either Trump or Kim will get the Peace Prize. Both, I think are going to be sort of persona non grata as far as the Noble Committee is concerned.
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Has someone ever been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for solving a conflict they themselves created?
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the nutter from The Philippines there as well.
He shouldn't be there. He has no nukes. It's like the guy who shows up at poker night with $7. Get the hell out of here.
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Mixed nuts
I would eat everything in that photograph in a couple minutes.
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As noted in a link above, the likelihood of this meeting has been walked back. It will require "concrete and verifiable actions" towards NK's denuclearization.

Ain't gonna happen...
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Look at that. You want her on your team. You want her on your side no matter where you stand. Look at that woman. Unlike Trump who is a phoney, she is a force of nature. If he is really smart he will never piss her off or send her away.
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Isnít this the chap who claimed he hit a couple dozen holes-in-one the first time he played golf?
That was the previous Kim, as I recall, and it was three in his first ever round of golf.
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Of all the presidents we have had since 1950 who could have met with the leader of North Korea, why this one?
Maybe trumpf will choke the fat little slime to death in a fit of pique!!!!!!!Though I really expect 69.
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I'm thinking there has never been an event more likely to trigger a nuclear war than those two malevolent narcissistic toddlers meeting.
Toddlers are generally fun. Those two are not!!!!!
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What are the odds this is just trump misspeaking like when he was for a clean DACA bill?
Nothing clean about trumpf.... It is dirt all the way through!!!!
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You will have to work on that last bit.
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Remember "Fire and Fury"? Which was going to happen any day now if NK didn't abandon its nukes and missiles? Now Trump's going to go and talk, or not, depending on whether it's him or Sarah saying it. He's already given ground. Kim's the winner.
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As noted in a link above, the likelihood of this meeting has been walked back. It will require "concrete and verifiable actions" towards NK's denuclearization.

Ain't gonna happen...
The grown-ups have intervened, but that may not be the end of it. The prospect of an "historic" meeting may be enough to persuade Trump to carry through.

Of course, it would only be a meeting, not a negotiation. There'd be no "walk in the woods" - those are too thoroughly mined in the DMZ, apart from anything else.
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Remember "Fire and Fury"?
Yeah that's the book that is going to bring the impeachment at any minute. Plus the author said that Trump is having an affair right now and the chick is mentioned in the final chapter of the book. The problem with that is that he isn't having any affair right now.

The thing that everyone remembers about that book is that they forgot about that book.
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What I'm worried about is what happens should Trump meet Kim-Jong In and get some kind of agreement. But North Korea will take whatever is offered without complying with its side of the deal (like before).
Trump might feel like George Bush when he realized that Putin had played him.
A bad agreement could make war more likely than no deal at all.
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I think the extent of Trump's "victory" has now been seen and is done. He thinks he won because he got Rocket Man to agree to a meeting. He got Mueller off of page one for a couple of days and can brag to his next rally about what a manly man he is.

Someone pointed out to him that Rocket Man, Rocket Man's Daddy and Rocket Man's Grand Daddy have been pushing for meetings with US presidents since Grover Cleveland. Everyone's always said, in no uncertain terms, "No!"

Now that L'il Kim's got nukes, of a sudden the POTUS is going to meet with him? Who looks stronger and who looks weaker?

There is no scenario of L'il Kim leaving North Korea/China for a meeting. Even China might be a risk. The Kims don't travel on planes but more important is they don't stray from home. The chances of a coup back home are far greater than the chances of him being assassinated in the DMZ or Seoul or Beijing. And if Kim won't leave the country, that leaves the POTUS (a.k.a. "the mountain") who will have to go to Muhammad. Ain't gonna happen.
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Look at that. You want her on your team. You want her on your side no matter where you stand. Look at that woman. Unlike Trump who is a phoney, she is a force of nature. If he is really smart he will never piss her off or send her away.
I don't want her on my team, I want her to go back to whatever zoo she escaped from.
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Some third or fourth of the posters in this thread are blinded by their two-bit chauvinism, talking as if Trump is the man and have won a duel. That is unrealistic and infantile.

Nothing is gonna come out from the negotiation but the certainty for South Korea that the USA is not willing to abandon their position of world gendarme. Achieving South Korea and the USA to grow apart is probably Kim's main goal.
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Good point: if the North is seen as having made a good faith effort, more South Koreans will come to the conclusion that the US doesn't want peace on the peninsula.
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