The all-new "US Politics and coronavirus" thread - Page 80

Stacyhs · 25th June 2020, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Trump can lie all he wants that more tests are simply picking up the milder cases, wearing masks infringes on your freedom, it's the Democrats that are really lying, time to get the economy going. But he can't stop or hide the hospitals overflowing with COVID patients. And that affects everyone else, not just people at higher risk.

Elective surgeries, cancelled.
Take your kid to the ED for a broken bone, call in from the car, a nurse will see you eventually and take your kid in, but you have other kids in the car, you can't go in with the kid.
Chemo for the teen with leukemia becomes dangerous to go in for the next dose.
Chest pain, do you or don't you go in?
Minor or routine medical care, the doctor will talk to you over the phone.
All visits to nursing homes banned.
Visits to hospital patients banned.
Daycares and schools closed.

And so on.

You can't lie and wish that away. And all those willfully ignorant persons won't be able to call it a liberal attempt to make Trump look bad.

You underestimate the stupidity of a lot of people.

Captain_Swoop · 25th June 2020, 01:04 PM

Texas to pause reopening as hospitals are inundated with new coronavirus cases, Gov. Abbott says.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...covid-n1232118

bruto · 25th June 2020, 01:37 PM

Yes, I heard that Texas is going to pause the reopening, but not undo anything either. The resurgence of the virus might be due to the partial reopening already in progress, but there will be no reversal. Restaurants at 75 percent capacity with tables up to 10...still OK, etc.

xjx388 · 25th June 2020, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by zorro99

Treasury sent more than 1 million coronavirus stimulus payments to dead people, congressional watchdog finds

The checks sent to dead people as of April 30 totaled nearly $1.4 billion, according to the Government Accountability Office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-po...ad-people-gao/

Not surprising since they used 2018 and 2019 tax return information to send the checks.

slyjoe · 25th June 2020, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by xjx388

Not surprising since they used 2018 and 2019 tax return information to send the checks.

One would think. My mother died in 2018, and she/I did not get a check. However, we did get the "Trump Letter" taking credit that supposedly went to everyone who got a check.

Stacyhs · 25th June 2020, 02:34 PM

It would be interesting to know if family of the deceased received the checks and they cashed them.

portlandatheist · 25th June 2020, 02:38 PM

It is hard to know whether this belongs in the politics section or the conspiracy theory section:
Bulwark: Florida’s Idiocracy Come and witness the wisdom of The People.
Palm Beach County held a public hearing and this is what was said. This is coo coo for cocoa puffs.

Quote:

We the people are waking up. And we know what citizen’s arrest is. Because citizen’s arrests are already happening, okay? And every single one of you who is obeying the devil’s law are going to be arrested. And you, doctor [here she is addressing the county’s health commissioner], are going to be arrested for crimes against humanity.
very single one of you are going to get punished . . . by God.

You cannot—you cannot escape God. You cannot escape God. I’m a say that again: You cannot escape God. Not even with the mask or six feet.
What happened to Bill Gates? Why is he not in jail? Why is Hillary Clinton not in jail? Why are all of these pedophiles that are demanding you all to listen to their rules, why are they not in jail? Is it because you are part of them? Are you part of the deep state? The deep state is going down, and if any of you are in the deep state, you are going down with them.

Mader Levap · 25th June 2020, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by portlandatheist

It is hard to know whether this belongs in the politics section or the conspiracy theory section

In post-fact reality, these are one and the same.

Thread closed due to size. Continues here.

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25th June 2020, 01:37 PM	#3163
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 27,641	Yes, I heard that Texas is going to pause the reopening, but not undo anything either. The resurgence of the virus might be due to the partial reopening already in progress, but there will be no reversal. Restaurants at 75 percent capacity with tables up to 10...still OK, etc.
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25th June 2020, 01:38 PM	#3164
xjx388 Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,124	Originally Posted by zorro99 Treasury sent more than 1 million coronavirus stimulus payments to dead people, congressional watchdog finds The checks sent to dead people as of April 30 totaled nearly $1.4 billion, according to the Government Accountability Office. https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-po...ad-people-gao/ Not surprising since they used 2018 and 2019 tax return information to send the checks.
xjx388 Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,124	__________________ Hello.

25th June 2020, 02:29 PM	#3165
slyjoe Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Near Harmonica Virgins, AZ Posts: 2,554	Originally Posted by xjx388 Not surprising since they used 2018 and 2019 tax return information to send the checks. One would think. My mother died in 2018, and she/I did not get a check. However, we did get the "Trump Letter" taking credit that supposedly went to everyone who got a check.
	__________________ "You have done nothing to demonstrate an understanding of scientific methodology or modern skepticism, both of which are, by necessity, driven by the facts and evidence, not by preconceptions, and both of which are strengthened by, and rely upon, change." - Arkan Wolfshade

25th June 2020, 11:14 AM	#3161
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,969	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Trump can lie all he wants that more tests are simply picking up the milder cases, wearing masks infringes on your freedom, it's the Democrats that are really lying, time to get the economy going. But he can't stop or hide the hospitals overflowing with COVID patients. And that affects everyone else, not just people at higher risk. Elective surgeries, cancelled. Take your kid to the ED for a broken bone, call in from the car, a nurse will see you eventually and take your kid in, but you have other kids in the car, you can't go in with the kid. Chemo for the teen with leukemia becomes dangerous to go in for the next dose. Chest pain, do you or don't you go in? Minor or routine medical care, the doctor will talk to you over the phone. All visits to nursing homes banned. Visits to hospital patients banned. Daycares and schools closed. And so on. You can't lie and wish that away. And all those willfully ignorant persons won't be able to call it a liberal attempt to make Trump look bad. You underestimate the stupidity of a lot of people.

25th June 2020, 01:04 PM	#3162
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,827	Texas to pause reopening as hospitals are inundated with new coronavirus cases, Gov. Abbott says. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...covid-n1232118

25th June 2020, 02:34 PM	#3166
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,969	It would be interesting to know if family of the deceased received the checks and they cashed them.

25th June 2020, 02:38 PM	#3167
portlandatheist Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,608	It is hard to know whether this belongs in the politics section or the conspiracy theory section: Bulwark: Florida’s Idiocracy Come and witness the wisdom of The People. Palm Beach County held a public hearing and this is what was said. This is coo coo for cocoa puffs. Quote: We the people are waking up. And we know what citizen’s arrest is. Because citizen’s arrests are already happening, okay? And every single one of you who is obeying the devil’s law are going to be arrested. And you, doctor [here she is addressing the county’s health commissioner], are going to be arrested for crimes against humanity. very single one of you are going to get punished . . . by God. You cannot—you cannot escape God. You cannot escape God. I’m a say that again: You cannot escape God. Not even with the mask or six feet. What happened to Bill Gates? Why is he not in jail? Why is Hillary Clinton not in jail? Why are all of these pedophiles that are demanding you all to listen to their rules, why are they not in jail? Is it because you are part of them? Are you part of the deep state? The deep state is going down, and if any of you are in the deep state, you are going down with them.